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I'm not "running defense" for anyone. If you want to call out a guy who was saying this was going to be about the cancellation of Xbox hardware then have at it. So where were all these poster claiming Microsoft was going to cancel hardware yesterday? The way you talk there were multiple threads about this. Did I miss them?

I'm sorry for my next gen prediction shitpost

It was thoughtless of me. I deeply regret my actions.
 

Sybrix

Member
Obviously MS is gonna go third party, what happened yesterday was simply a PR stunt to try to save the ship after all the rumors that in the end we learned were true.

Right.

From a purely financial point of view, why would MS spend money on console development and production when they can make more selling their games via Gamepass & on PlayStation and Switch?
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
I'm not "running defense" for anyone. If you want to call out a guy who was saying this was going to be about the cancellation of Xbox hardware then have at it. So where were all these posters claiming Microsoft was going to cancel hardware yesterday? The way you talk there were multiple threads about this. Did I miss them?
You seriously didn't see all the Xbox is dead, Xbox is the new Sega, Xbox going full 3rd party posts?

Because there were a lot of them
 

ManaByte

Member
I'm not "running defense" for anyone. If you want to call out a guy who was saying this was going to be about the cancellation of Xbox hardware then have at it. So where were all these poster claiming Microsoft was going to cancel hardware yesterday? The way you talk there were multiple threads about this. Did I miss them?

The entire past two weeks has been nothing but threads proclaiming MS was exiting the console business and going third party and publishing EVERYTHING on the PS5.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/phil-spencer-announcement-this-week.1666826/ <- 90 page thread with people dancing on Xbox's gave based on fake insider bullshit














 
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HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
Yesterday was the official first step in that direction though.

We all know it.
Like people have been saying for years?

One thing I have learned in 56 years of being on this Earth is I don't know what these companies are going to be doing 5 years from now

Yeah, I saw all those. What I did not see was posts claiming that all of that was going to happen with yesterday's event. Did you?
Who are you and what have you done with the real Topher Topher

Did I see people actual say it was happening yesterday

What Can I Say Lol GIF by Max
 

XXL

Member

Topher

Gold Member
The entire past two weeks has been nothing but threads proclaiming MS was exiting the console business and going third party and publishing EVERYTHING on the PS5.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/phil-spencer-announcement-this-week.1666826/unread <- 90 page thread with people dancing on Xbox's gave based on fake insider bullshit















You are not paying attention. We were discussing this post:

Are you one of those who are down bad because they didn't announce cancelation of Xbox hardware yesterday ?



Meaning GIF
 
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Killjoy-NL

Member
Like people have been saying for years?

One thing I have learned in 56 years of being on this Earth is I don't know what these companies are going to be doing 5 years from now
Yet, here we are.

Exactly as many predicted, going as far back as early last-gen, when it started as more of a joke.
 

King Dazzar

Member
The entire past two weeks has been nothing but threads proclaiming MS was exiting the console business and going third party and publishing EVERYTHING on the PS5.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/phil-spencer-announcement-this-week.1666826/ <- 90 page thread with people dancing on Xbox's gave based on fake insider bullshit














That's muddy water though. I just clicked on one of those links at random and it was a thread defending Xbox, started by Diddy X for example. Yes there has been a big focus on Xbox. But that isnt GAF's fault. The rumours were mainly started from within the Xbox community. And lets face it, Xbox allowed this to continue to fester longer than needed.
 

xHunter

Member
Xbox Era: Starfield on PS5
Tom Warren: Indiana Jones on PS5
None of this has been debunked though? Have you not read Phils interview with the Verge?
If you think him saying this means those games will never be ported, oh boy:

You mentioned that Starfield and Indiana Jones aren’t part of the four despite rumors, but will those ever come to PS5? Can you rule that out?
I don’t think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform. We’re focused on these four games and learning from the experience.
But I don’t want to create a false expectation on those other platforms that this is somehow the first four to get over the dam and then the dam’s going to open and that everything else is coming, that’s not the plan today. I also don’t want to mislead customers on those other platforms. We’re launching these four games, and we’re excited about it. We’re excited about the announce and everything else, but we’ll see what happens for our business.
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
Yet, here we are.

Exactly as many predicted, going as far back as early last-gen, when it started as more of a joke.
Sorry I am not going to go back and forth what it means for some games beginning to come to PS and how that equates the death of Xbox

People can take what they want from that podcast
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
The entire past two weeks has been nothing but threads proclaiming MS was exiting the console business and going third party and publishing EVERYTHING on the PS5.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/phil-spencer-announcement-this-week.1666826/ <- 90 page thread with people dancing on Xbox's gave based on fake insider bullshit














Every once in a while you get mass FUD. During Xbox One, people were claiming it would be the last Xbox console. Oops.... then One X came out, then Series S/X. Now MS says new hardware will come out later. It kills some people that MS stays in the console business.
 
Wait, we’re now pretending that the last two weeks of constant shit posting and trolling Xbox and claiming that Xbox was abandoning hardware, porting everything to PlayStation, and killing off GamePass, didn’t happen?

Xbox is abandoning hardware!! - they actually aren’t

They’re porting everything to PlayStation!! - it’s four games to start (and before anyone chimes in about frogs, yes we all know more games will come) and those four games are nothing close to the ones GAF was predicting

GamePass as we know it is dead and gone!! We all told you GamePass wasn’t sustainable!!! - GamePass actually remains the best deal in gaming, MS reaffirms their commitment to day one

And now all the posters who were claiming yesterday would be the death of Xbox are trying to somehow twist it into I told you so 😆😆🤡😆
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
And I disagree it was not an "official step in that direction" to the death of Xbox

Again people said the exact thing when Sony started putting games on PC
Except Xbox is dying right in front of our eyes.
It's apparent in every aspect of Xbox.

Can't imagine you believing the PR-spin the Xbox heads were trying to sell yesterday.
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
Wait, we’re now pretending that the last two weeks of constant shit posting and trolling Xbox and claiming that Xbox was abandoning hardware, porting everything to PlayStation, and killing off GamePass, didn’t happen?

Xbox is abandoning hardware!! - they actually aren’t

They’re porting everything to PlayStation!! - it’s four games to start (and before anyone chimes in about frogs, yes we all know more games will come) and those four games are nothing close to the ones GAF was predicting

GamePass as we know it is dead and gone!! We all told you GamePass wasn’t sustainable!!! - GamePass actually remains the best deal in gaming, MS reaffirms their commitment to day one

And now all the posters who were claiming yesterday would be the death of Xbox are trying to somehow twist it into I told you so 😆😆🤡😆
I don't get it either honestly but its pretty much what is happening

PlayStation is dying anyway with that shite 5% profit margin

My only concern is making sure xbox goes first
Happy Go Away GIF by Tikivideo
 

King Dazzar

Member
Sorry I am not going to go back and forth what it means for some games beginning to come to PS and how that equates the death of Xbox

People can take what they want from that podcast
For me, I dont see Xbox "dying" as such. But how it looks in a few years time and how focused it is on my gaming needs/expectations as a primary sole platform is my concern. As the ole saying goes, time will tell. 🙂
 

HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
For me, I dont see Xbox "dying" as such. But how it looks in a few years time and how focused it is on my gaming needs/expectations as a primary sole platform is my concern. As the ole saying goes, time will tell. 🙂
Now this I totally agree with and they have to show me why I still need an Xbox as my main platform because I know a lot of people that still will buy the next console no matter how many games go to PS
 

Topher

Gold Member
Who are you and what have you done with the real Topher Topher

Did I see people actual say it was happening yesterday

What Can I Say Lol GIF by Max

You are saying that folks were claiming that Microsoft was going to come out and officially proclaim that Xbox hardware was coming to an end yesterday? No.....I didn't see those. I have enough respect for you that if you say that was stated by some to believe you. Not sure why my posts are suddenly uncharacteristic to you. I call it like I see it.

Wait, we’re now pretending that the last two weeks of constant shit posting and trolling Xbox and claiming that Xbox was abandoning hardware, porting everything to PlayStation, and killing off GamePass, didn’t happen?

Xbox is abandoning hardware!! - they actually aren’t

They’re porting everything to PlayStation!! - it’s four games to start (and before anyone chimes in about frogs, yes we all know more games will come) and those four games are nothing close to the ones GAF was predicting

GamePass as we know it is dead and gone!! We all told you GamePass wasn’t sustainable!!! - GamePass actually remains the best deal in gaming, MS reaffirms their commitment to day one

And now all the posters who were claiming yesterday would be the death of Xbox are trying to somehow twist it into I told you so 😆😆🤡😆

Plenty of people wrongly said Xbox is abandoning hardware. I remember because I was discussing how that didn't jive with the handheld rumor discussions. I somehow missed all these people saying Microsoft was going to officially end Xbox hardware as part of the announcement yesterday.

Ya'll adamant that was a thing then.....ok, I guess.
 
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XXL

Member
Xbox Era: Starfield on PS5
Tom Warren: Indiana Jones on PS5
Phil Spencer on that same topic


"You mentioned that Starfield and Indiana Jones aren’t part of the four despite rumors, but will those ever come to PS5? Can you rule that out?"

"I don’t think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform. We’re focused on these four games and learning from the experience.
But I don’t want to create a false expectation on those other platforms that this is somehow the first four to get over the dam and then the dam’s going to open and that everything else is coming, that’s not the plan today. I also don’t want to mislead customers on those other platforms. We’re launching these four games, and we’re excited about it. We’re excited about the announce and everything else, but we’ll see what happens for our business."
Mr Rogers Clown GIF


For reference here is an interview with Herman Hulst regarding Playstation bringing games to PC.


"PSB: [How does] PC fit into the worldview of PlayStation Studios moving forward?"

"Hermen: We’re still early on in our planning for PC. And Horizon Zero Dawn has been very successful. I think it shows there’s an appetite from gamers outside the PlayStation ecosystem to experience the amazing portfolio of games that PlayStation fans have enjoyed for years.

But I want to emphasize that PlayStation will remain the best place to play our PlayStation Studios titles at launch. But we do value PC gamers, and we’ll continue to look at the right times to launch each game. Bend Studio just released the PC version of Days Gone on May 18. So that’s about two years after the PS4 release.

And I hope that a new set of fans can and will enjoy that title. And that’s the goal — we want to reach new gamers who haven’t yet experienced the great stories, characters, and worlds that we’ve built. Releasing games on PC will not come ever at the expense of building an exciting lineup of great console games."

You should actually read both of those interviews, then rewatch the podcast.

Why do companies lie? So they don't burn down their foundation while transitioning to something different.
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
Now this I totally agree with and they have to show me why I still need an Xbox as my main platform because I know a lot of people that still will buy the next console no matter how many games go to PS
Well, as I said yesterday, before the podcast:

Once Xbox starts publishing games on Playstation and Nintendo, any piece of hardware they release is pretty much DOA.

They'll probably be happy with ~20M sales and brag about how they're the only cross-platform publisher with a dedicated fanbase (whoever is left over).
 

XXL

Member
Gamers talk so much shit about these things just being a "plastic box" but when the time comes and things get real....
Episode 7 Wow GIF by Wrexham AFC

Unbelievable.

You guys care a TON about these devices.
 
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Killjoy-NL

Member
Salty because I wont go back and forth about the death of Xbox and we disagree about it?

The people to me who seem salty are the ones who can't get everyone to agree with them.

We can't agree to disagree so that makes me salty?

Oh Come On GIF
I don't mind people disagreeing with me.
I get into disagreements on Gaf all the time. Part of having discussions.
It's not even fun if we all agree all the time.

I was just making an observation.
 
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HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
I don't mind people disagreeing with me.
I get into disagreements on Gaf all the time. Part of having discussions.
It's not even fun if we all agree all the time.

I was just making an observation.

I don't mind people disagreeing with me.

I get into disagreements on Gaf all the time. Part of having discussions.

It's not even fun if we all agree all the time.



I was just making an observation.
I guess I am salty because they talked their new hardware and should have read that as the official step to their death

And saying I have some sort of stake in this

Walter White I Give Up GIF by Breaking Bad
 

Topher

Gold Member
For me, I dont see Xbox "dying" as such. But how it looks in a few years time and how focused it is on my gaming needs/expectations as a primary sole platform is my concern. As the ole saying goes, time will tell. 🙂

Regardless of what a few posters may or may not have said about the event yesterday as far hardware is concerned, what you've said has been the primary issue people have had with the idea of Xbox games going down the multiplat road. And that wasn't coming just from Xbox detractors. The diehards on twitter were thumping that concern louder than anyone.
 
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