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[SSJ1Goku]

*face palm*
Two long posts to reply to. Putting words in my mouth and all kinds of shit, first PD:

Me agreeing with the socio-economic point that people from poor families/homes are more aggressive/angry does not justify your argument, which suggests only black women have this problem. It applies to whites, blacks, etc in this country.

Never said that. If you go back up you will clearly see where I quoted myself where I talked about black PEOPLE subscribing to a reactionary culture and what led to it. Black female culture is a differ culture that is ONLY subscribed to by black females. Like I already said there have been multiple cultural shifts in the black community.

You have provided absolutely no evidence to support the idea that a "majority" of black women subscribe to a "Strong/independent BW" mindset, or what that means.

http://www.dol.gov/oasam/programs/history/moynchapter1.htm
WOW! Should I respond to this or not......*sigh* I'll connect the dots for you:

-The majority of BW are single because of the cultural mindset that is not condusive to being in a relationship with any man. "I'm a strong, indenpendant BW."

-Do I need to go into the lack of trust and respect that BW have for BM as a whole? (I dare you to argue this one)

-BW having too much attitude (same as the above)

-Kids out of wedlock is a result of being sold a mentality by the older generation of BW. They pass on what is known as the "legacy of struggle." The "legacy of struggle" says that everything was the BM's fault, and the BW never owns up to the fact that she made a poor choice in a man. This never the BW fault mindset also removes any fear of getting with and having a baby with the wrong man. The majority of black people are raised in this situation.

-The majority of black people being raised into the above situation leads to all kinds of problems. First those born into single parent homes with just mom are more likey to stay single forever because they the implictly learned behaviors they see coming from a healthy two parent home. This goes for all races of people, not just black people. This goes into why there are so many single black femles out here.

-What is taught to the kids in these female headed households? The girls are taught to be strong and independant of a man and the boys are taught to respect black women NO MATTER WHAT and to be the man that his father was not.

-This is where the birth of thugs came from. The boys fall off because they find out that what their moms taught them does not impress black females. The cultural shifts in the black community have made the thugs the most sought after male in the black community with black females at a young age. Young black boys backlash and become the thugs inorder to get the most females. Do I really need to go into more detail about this, we see it all the time.

-Education is one of the talking points in becoming a strong, independant BW. We see BW proclaim all the time how they deserve the best of black men just because they have a degree. ONLY BW value their educations or their beauty, no otehr race of woman does. Problem with that is that is not a trait that the majority of men out here are looking for. Men are very visual creatures. At this point in time the culture is so bad that the majority of BW are overweight or obese. BW are trying to browbeat BW into accepting them because they think their education is enough.

-Another added factor to the weight isses is the weave issue. If you know how weaves works then I should not need to go into further deatail. Youcan't workout if you have a weave because you will sweat it out.

-The reason that BW are complaining about not being able to get a man even thought they subscribe to a culture that is not condusive to being with a man is AGAIN becasue of the white media. BW consubme more media than anybody else. What is promote on the white side is white men who are head of household. This is the reverse of what BW are taught by their moms. Also what BW witness is on-point black men who were raised in two parent households, which is condusive to a relationship, who are dating outside of the race because the normal qualities they are looking for are MORE normal in other communities. This makes BW jealous. BW claim to be doing so well but other races of men are not getting with them. This makes BW bitter.

If there is anything you need me to go over in greater detail about I will be more than happy to. I have spent many years doing volunteer work and sociology work in the black community. All I can say is if you doubt what I am saying all you need to do is turn around and look at the community, it's fucked up and getting worse.

BTW I came from a two parent household in the suburbs. I help out in the black community just like my father and older bros before me.

Black women are significantly more successful than black men; that's an economic fact

Actually this is false. BW are the face of poverty. You see this is what I'm talking about with the media, even you are effected and you don't even know it.

http://elev8.com/news/elev8-staff/myths-debunked-not-all-black-men-are-a-lost-cause/
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10068/1041225-84.stm

Now for Natural B:

Wow, really? It's "white media's" fault that black women (and men) act like idiots all the time?

Never said that. I said that the culture is promoted in the media. In fact I said up above that I DO NOT blame white people for black people SUBSCRIBING to the negative culture. There is a difference between promoting someting and subscribing to it.

They're called anger issues and no, it's not anyone's fault but enablers - your own, your parenting, friends and most importantly the culture that surrounds you, because it's the culture that brought up your parents that are bringing you up, and your friends that you hang out with are in the same cyclical soup as you

THAT'S WHAT I ALREADY SAID! You just agreed with everything I have been saying *sigh*

"Black urban culture" was invented and passed through generations by black people. And that is by design, it's a counter to what white people were doing.

*face palm* I SAID THAT!!!!!!!!! You just agreed with me again....omg my head hurts.

And yes, 40 - 60+ years ago, black people were poor and did stupid things at times, probably at a higher rate than people better off. But the culture didn't turn on itself. The culture was a GOOD influence and it DID impact how people acted and for the most part, black people turned out to be the good guys. There was faith, hope and love still...and things did get better slowly and surely.

Urban culture made this mess what it is and only urban culture will get themselves out (or make it worse.) It's about as much of a cultural bubble that can exist these days.

All of this is wrong. What you said competely ignores the cultural shifts that happened in the 1970s. Black men were disenfranchised by having the economic floor ripped out from under them. After that point in time the only guys in the black community who had the most money were the drug dealers. This gave way for thugphilia and the rise of gang culture. This then gave rise to the promotion and glamorization of hip hop culture. The rest is history.

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

Physically? Yes.

no.

 

[GavinGT]

A picture of one of the two women was recently released:

 

[LaserBuddha]

Nice to see that "Start a fight and you deserve ANYTHING that happens to you"-GAF is still alive and well.

Repeatedly beating a woman who is on the ground as hard and you can in the head with a metal rod while everyone in the room pleads for you stop? Bitch had it coming, she ran behind the counter.

It must be nice and liberating to have such a simplistic view of the world. Of course this is exactly the opposite stance most of these same people would take if it was a cop.

And I'll be fucked if I quote your final line, you should be banned for that.

I guess you are unfamiliar with the term. And taking into account the rules about "backseat modding" lends delicious irony to your sentence.

 

[spunibard]

Nice to see that "Start a fight and you deserve ANYTHING that happens to you"-GAF is still alive and well.

Repeatedly beating a woman who is on the ground as hard and you can in the head with a metal rod while everyone in the room pleads for you stop? Bitch had it coming, she ran behind the counter.

It must be nice and liberating to have such a simplistic view of the world. Of course this is exactly the opposite stance most of these same people would take if it was a cop.

Good to see "reality-distorting drama queen"-GAF is alive and well. So you think it's reasonable to attack cops?

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Nice to see that "Start a fight and you deserve ANYTHING that happens to you"-GAF is still alive and well.

Repeatedly beating a woman who is on the ground as hard and you can in the head with a metal rod while everyone in the room pleads for you stop? Bitch had it coming, she ran behind the counter.

It must be nice and liberating to have such a simplistic view of the world. Of course this is exactly the opposite stance most of these same people would take if it was a cop.



I guess you are unfamiliar with the term. And taking into account the rules about "backseat modding" lends delicious irony to your sentence.

I don't necessarily think they deserved it, or that the dude was in the right completely, I just don't feel bad at all. Start shit and you better be prepared for stuff like that to happen.

 

[LaserBuddha]

Good to see "reality-distorting drama queen"-GAF is alive and well.

Please point out how "as hard as you can in the head" and "everyone in the room" were distortions of reality? OK maybe the person recording it and a couple of the onlookers weren't screaming for him to stop, though that doesn't amount to a misrepresentation of the situation at all.

So you think it's reasonable to attack cops?

You're mistaken about what I mean. I'm saying that people won't defend a cop being brutal or using excessive force with the excuse "the perp started it" or "You never know, they MIGHT have a gun!". As well they shouldn't.

 

[Pulka]

Those guys got served

 

[MIMIC]

Nice to see that "Start a fight and you deserve ANYTHING that happens to you"-GAF is still alive and well.

Repeatedly beating a woman who is on the ground as hard and you can in the head with a metal rod while everyone in the room pleads for you stop? Bitch had it coming, she ran behind the counter.

Too much Grand Theft Auto, IMO.

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

A picture of one of the two women was recently released:

she wouldn't have ended up on the ground

 

[PhoenixDark]

SSJ1Goku, I'm not going to fisk your post. But I will make some general points

1. You have yet to post any evidence to support the variety of stereotypes and generalizations you continue to make. From that post alone you have claimed

-black women do not respect black men
-black women have an attitude
-households where the female is the head of the family teach girls to distrust/not rely on black men, and teaches boys to "respect" black women "no matter what"
-only black women value education over beauty
-weave wearing plays a role in weight gain (I guess BW are too stupid to not go to the gym without a weave, right?)
-black women consume more media than any other group
-whites promote the idea that the man is the head of the household while black single mothers promote the opposite view

The Dep of Labor article you link does not prove your assertions to be true. They are your opinions, which you pass on as fact.

2. I was wrong in claiming black women are more successful than black men. What I meant was that black women are graduating at a higher rate, which leads us to the topic of finding a black mate with equal education. Studies show black women date outside their race far less than black (and white) men, which suggest their choices are limited despite so many having educations. Some have argued the reason for this is due to so many black men being in jail, as well as so few non-black men living in similar socio-economic situations/areas.

3. Out of wedlock pregnancy is not a one way street; where there is a sorry black woman, there is a sorry black man. Unfortunately, just one of them is stuck with the result (a child). I'm not going to defend the general concept here, as the pregnancy rates speak for themselves. There's no excuse for not using protection and getting pregnant, but let's not overlook these pathetic black men with multiple kids with multiple black women. They don't get a pass.


I feel sorry for any black woman that has to deal with you in the black community. I've met many black women who are exactly like the various traits you described - argumentative, overweight, educated but ignorant, loud, weave wearing, disrespectful, etc. But my anecdotal experiences do not give me the right to stereotype millions of people, nor does it give you that right.

 

[SSJ1Goku]

I need some context about you PD. I have 2 questions about you if we are to go on discussing what I am saying:

1. Who makes more money your mother or your father?

2. Do you live in the black community or outside of it?

These 2 question will give me a better understanding of your point of view.

 

[LaserBuddha]

I need some context about you PD. I have 2 questions about you if we are to go on discussing what I am saying:

1. Who makes more money your mother or your father?

2. Do you live in the black community or outside of it?

These 2 question will give me a better understanding of your point of view.

Dude he's asking you about generalizations, statistics, etc. There is no "point of view", you're either right or wrong in what you're saying.

 

[spunibard]

Please point out how "as hard as you can in the head" and "everyone in the room" were distortions of reality? OK maybe the person recording it and a couple of the onlookers weren't screaming for him to stop, though that doesn't amount to a misrepresentation of the situation at all.

How do you figure that the hits were as hard as he could make them? And that they were to the head? The target was behind the counter and out of view.

And everyone does not equal some people. Everyone means everyone. Not one single woman screaming.

You're mistaken about what I mean. I'm saying that people won't defend a cop being brutal or using excessive force with the excuse "the perp started it" or "You never know, they MIGHT have a gun!". As well they shouldn't.

Does a police officer have as much at risk? There is a whole platoon of fellow officers that will hunt down someone if they take out their comrade. But almost no one would give two squirts of piss if this McD employee was taken out a week later in vengeance. And even if they did, there'd be nothing they could do about it.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Man, did anyone else hear the guy say "Say hello to my little friend"?

 

[SSJ1Goku]

Dude he's asking you about generalizations, statistics, etc. There is no "point of view", you're either right or wrong in what you're saying.

The context is VERY important! One of the main problems in the black community is that the majority of black people who are fucked up or ignorant of the problems think they are right simply because they are the majority. I need the context!

The very fact that I posted something very important in the way of evidence and he did not understand it says a LOT about this dude. The very fact that he did not understand the Patrick Moynihan report means that there is nothing else that needs to be discussed. He literally does not understand why the black community is the way that it is, simply as that.

 

[MIMIC]

How do you figure that the hits were as hard as he could make them? And that they were to the head? The target was behind the counter and out of view.

I think you need to read the OP. And as for whether he hit them as hard as he could: eyesight and basic experience with motion will tell you that he did.

 

[PhoenixDark]

I need some context about you PD. I have 2 questions about you if we are to go on discussing what I am saying:

1. Who makes more money your mother or your father?

2. Do you live in the black community or outside of it?

These 2 question will give me a better understanding of your point of view.

1. My dad makes six figures, my mom works for him
2. I live slightly off campus (Eastern Michigan) in a mixed city, my parents live in the suburbs. My early years were spent living on the University of Michigan's campus as my dad finished med school, then we moved to Detroit where he did his residency; we lived in Detroit for about 10 years (around other black people) before moving out of the city into the suburbs, where I spent my pre-teen and teenage years around mainly white people.

My point of view, like yours, is based on my life experiences. IE anecdotal evidence. I can't use it to make broad assertions, and neither can you.

 

[LaserBuddha]

How do you figure that the hits were as hard as he could make them? And that they were to the head? The target was behind the counter and out of view.

What??? He's using a major backswing, and very clearly is putting as much force as possible behind it. How much faster are you imagining that rod being able to move? And did you forget about the fractured skull? Sorry but it's like you didn't read the OP or watch the video.

And everyone does not equal some people. Everyone means everyone. Not one single woman screaming.

The other employees and several other customers can be heard yelling/pleading for him to stop. I already addressed in my first response that, ok, it wasn't literally everyone, and challenged you to explain how that equals me misrepresenting the situation in the video. Even if you concede that it wasn't just one woman yelling for him to stop, you're still grasping at straws by continuing to focus on my casual use of the term "everyone" in an earlier post.

Does a police officer have as much at risk? There is a whole platoon of fellow officers that will hunt down someone if they take out their comrade. But almost no one would give two squirts of piss if this McD employee was taken out a week later in vengeance. And even if they did, there'd be nothing they could do about it.

Whhaaaaattt??? A police officer and any other person have the same thing to risk: their lives. In what fucking reality does some hypothetical future vengeance play a part in questions of self-defense? I don't even understand how this addresses my idea that people who say "anything goes" in this situation likely wouldn't say the same thing if we replace Mr. Rayon with a cop.

 

[ecurbj]

Dude was being defensive and I understand his point of view because I would of did the same thing but at the same time I would of just walked away instead of the hitting part.

The lady was annoying as hell though! STOP IT STTTTTTOOOOP!!!! The fck woman!

 

[Log4Girlz]

Dude was being defensive and I understand his point of view because I would of did the same thing but at the same time I would of just walked away instead of the hitting part.

The lady was annoying as hell though! STOP IT STTTTTTOOOOP!!!! The fck woman!

I so wanted him to reach over the counter and smack her with that rod bwahahaha.

 

[Momo]

His name is "Rayon".

Raynor will forever be known as the "McDonalds pipe guy"

 

[Lebron]

I so wanted him to reach over the counter and smack her with that rod bwahahaha.

But then who would have informed him to stop it and that the police were on the way?


Yeah, exactly. No one. She was a white knight.

 

[LaserBuddha]

But then who would have informed him to stop it and that the police were on the way?


Yeah, exactly. No one. She was a white knight.

Aw give the poor lady a break guys, what happened was pretty fucked up and I could understand it if some middle aged lady was really freaked out about it and just tried whatever she could to make it stop.

Spoiler

And before you misapply the term 'white knight' to me like you did to her, please refresh yourself on what it actually means before the term becomes the next 'hipster' or 'epic'

 

[justjohn]

Gave them the ass whooping their fathers clearly failed to do. well done sir

 

[MIMIC]

Aw give the poor lady a break guys, what happened was pretty fucked up and I could understand it if some middle aged lady was really freaked out about it and just tried whatever she could to make it stop.

Spoiler

And before you misapply the term 'white knight' to me like you did to her, please refresh yourself on what it actually means before the term becomes the next 'hipster' or 'epic'

It's pretty bizarre how far-removed people on the Internet are from reality. Freak incident = people freaking out.

 

[Meadows]

Aw give the poor lady a break guys, what happened was pretty fucked up and I could understand it if some middle aged lady was really freaked out about it and just tried whatever she could to make it staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap.

Spoiler

And before you misapply the term 'white knight' to me like you did to her, please refresh yourself on what it actually means before the term becomes the next 'hipster' or 'epic'

fixed

 

[Dreams-Visions]

That video was ill.

This thread is worse. Goodness, GAF.

 

[Bluth]

SSJ1Goku, I'm not going to fisk your post. But I will make some general points

1. You have yet to post any evidence to support the variety of stereotypes and generalizations you continue to make. From that post alone you have claimed

-black women do not respect black men
-black women have an attitude
-households where the female is the head of the family teach girls to distrust/not rely on black men, and teaches boys to "respect" black women "no matter what"
-only black women value education over beauty
-weave wearing plays a role in weight gain (I guess BW are too stupid to not go to the gym without a weave, right?)
-black women consume more media than any other group
-whites promote the idea that the man is the head of the household while black single mothers promote the opposite view

The Dep of Labor article you link does not prove your assertions to be true. They are your opinions, which you pass on as fact.

2. I was wrong in claiming black women are more successful than black men. What I meant was that black women are graduating at a higher rate, which leads us to the topic of finding a black mate with equal education. Studies show black women date outside their race far less than black (and white) men, which suggest their choices are limited despite so many having educations. Some have argued the reason for this is due to so many black men being in jail, as well as so few non-black men living in similar socio-economic situations/areas.

3. Out of wedlock pregnancy is not a one way street; where there is a sorry black woman, there is a sorry black man. Unfortunately, just one of them is stuck with the result (a child). I'm not going to defend the general concept here, as the pregnancy rates speak for themselves. There's no excuse for not using protection and getting pregnant, but let's not overlook these pathetic black men with multiple kids with multiple black women. They don't get a pass.


I feel sorry for any black woman that has to deal with you in the black community. I've met many black women who are exactly like the various traits you described - argumentative, overweight, educated but ignorant, loud, weave wearing, disrespectful, etc. But my anecdotal experiences do not give me the right to stereotype millions of people, nor does it give you that right.

Good post.

 

[Devolution]

That video was ill.

This thread is worse. Goodness, GAF.

A lot of the "woman took a first swing" threads are like this. Regardless of the gender involved, if someone is already down on the ground weaponless and you keep smacking the shit out of them, it's criminal behavior.

 

[Meadows]

You know what, fuck it, I've worked in retail for some time, and there have been numerous times when I've wanted to do what Raynor did, but you know what, he did it, and there was a massive cathartic thrill when I saw him fucking those pricks up. Does that make me a terrible person? Probably.

 

[SSJ1Goku]

1. My dad makes six figures, my mom works for him
2. I live slightly off campus (Eastern Michigan) in a mixed city, my parents live in the suburbs. My early years were spent living on the University of Michigan's campus as my dad finished med school, then we moved to Detroit where he did his residency; we lived in Detroit for about 10 years (around other black people) before moving out of the city into the suburbs, where I spent my pre-teen and teenage years around mainly white people.

My point of view, like yours, is based on my life experiences. IE anecdotal evidence. I can't use it to make broad assertions, and neither can you.

My jaw is on the fucking ground. I mean I suspected that you were ignorant of isses in the black community but DAYUM!!!!!!!!!! You are beyond ignorant. You are completely delusional.

My argument from the start has been that the way that BW act is because of a culture that they subscribe to based on the economic floor being ripped out from under BM. So I posted the Patrick Moynihan report. A report done in the 60s that is based off of the past research by WEB Dubois when he was studing the problems in the black community and possible ways of fixing them. And you didn't even read it. It explains when the issues in the black community started and why BW have a disrespectful disposition for BM. Including the economic inequality based in the historical context and how it is perpetuated by the dominate system. And how the black community can not operate on the differ sytem. You ignored all of it. And you lived in fucking Detriot or all places! Why don't you educate everybody on where all those factory jobs went to *rolls eyes* The problems in the black community are systemic generational problems!

Then you say that some bullshit about BW not being able to find BM on thier level. Ok lets humor that. If BW are out pacing BM so damn much and they are so awesome then where the hell are all these out of wedlock babies comming from? I mean if BM really were so awful then shouldn't there be a moratorium on the pussy? You say you are not letting the Ray Rays and Pookies off the hook, ok lets go with that. Why the fuck are BW fucking around with Rays Rays and Pookies? No sex can take place unless a woman says yes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/27/desmond-hatchett-29-year_n_208393.html

Your father is a doctor. Why dont you ask him why the majority of BW are overweight or obese?

http://clutchmagonline.com/2011/08/it%e2%80%99s-deeper-than-food-doctors-struggle-tackle-obesity-crisis-in-black-women/

http://www.blackvoicenews.com/news/46574-living-large-doctors-tackle-obesity-in-black-women.html

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/25/surgeon-general-calls-for-health-over-hair/

I feel sorry for any black woman that has to deal with you in the black community. I've met many black women who are exactly like the various traits you described - argumentative, overweight, educated but ignorant, loud, weave wearing, disrespectful, etc. But my anecdotal experiences do not give me the right to stereotype millions of people, nor does it give you that right.

Oh so you admit that you do see those type of BW. You just seem to deny that they are the majority. As if there are stats for BW with a fucking attitude *rolls eyes*

Also why would I be with a BW that had any of those negative traits? What the hell kind of logic is that?

*rolls eyes*
As for your comment about BM in jail and that's why BW are single:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l1PMFR_lNc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21dP7W6nimM&feature=related

And then lastly comparing your "experiences" in the black community to mine....wow. You must have missed the part where I do sociology work in the black comunity. Secondly I was generalizing, not over generalizing. If what I say is not true then why is the black community fucked up and STILL falling apart despite the black single mothers supposedly doing so well while they are claiming to run shit and how "they don't no man", WHY?

You said that "if BW were smart they would take off their weaves before they go to the gym." I mean DAMN! Do you even know any black people at all, much less BW? Weaves are stitched and glues into BW's hair. This is the cause of another problem with BW in regards to their image issues coming from the media, which is traction alopecia. The weaves pull their hair out. Many BW are balding underneath theri weaves or have chemical burns. And BW can't workout with a fucking weave because sweat messes up the weave.

 

[PantherLotus]

That video captures so many things. Jumping behind the counter is such a bad idea, as is assalting an employee of a business you're at, but holy shit he beat the fuck out of them -- way over the top (though if you've seen these things "over the top" doesn't count if they're carrying, which they might have been).

GAF: it is possible to see an event where both parties are in the wrong, you know.

 

[Devolution]

Can SSJ1Goku please outline for me the flipside of the coin that is BM in lower economic classes being in prison, doing drugs, being thugs and not settling down/having multiple partners/baby mamas? I mean we're dealing solely with negative stereotypes here right?

 

[Zwei]

31-year old male still working at WacArnold's? Yeah, that seems like a dude who could blow the fuck up at any moment. :/

 

[Dominican Power]

 

[SSJ1Goku]

Can SSJ1Goku please outline for me the flipside of the coin that is BM in lower economic classes being in prison, doing drugs, being thugs and not settling down/having multiple partners/baby mamas? I mean we're dealing solely with negative stereotypes here right?

I fully admit that the majority of black males subscribe to the street culture. I already said that. My problem is if the majority of black males aren't shit, then why the fuck are BW STILL HAVING BABIES WITH THOSE GUYS!!!!!! I don't like fat women, the majority of BW are fat, so I don't date the majority of BW.

But what sense does it make to be told that, "niggas ain't shit," see guys who clearly subscribe to an alterative culture all over the place, and yet still sleep with AND get pregnant by those guys, and then have to nerve to complain when he PROVES he was ALWAYS worthless when he leaves and the BW is stuck with the kid.

What was that motherfucker doing with his life BEFORE he got you pregnant?

I don't go looking to date fat BW.

I don't go looking to date BW with attitude.

I don't go looking to date BW with no father in her life.

I sure as hell don't go looking for BW with kids out of wedlock.

And lastly
What types of households produce the black males who are falling off?
Single parent homes with just mom. You HAVE to look at the way BW are raising the black children.

 

[Parch]

How much can this so-called BW attitude be the reason for them freaking out? Wouldn't scanning a $50 be routine procedure? Did they take this as racial? Maybe the guy said something stupid to set them off.

I just don't understand the incredibly stupid logic of jumping the counter and attacking the cashier for this. And damn, did they ever make the wrong choice attacking a guy with a manslaughter charge.

That's a costly attitude. Was it worth it? Both parties definately in the wrong, and they'll all pay the price.

 

[Devolution]

I fully admit that the majority of black males subscribe to hip hop culture. I already said that. My problem is if the majority of black males aren't shit, then why the fuck are BW STILL HAVING BABIES WITH THOSE GUYS!!!!!! I don't like fat women, the majority of BW are fat, so I don't date the majority of BW.

But what sense does it make to be told that, "niggas ain't shit," see guys who clearly subscribe to an alterative culture all over the place, and yet still sleep with AND get pregnant by those guys, and then have to nerve to complain when he PROVES he was ALWAYS worthless when he leaves and the BW is stuck with the kid.

What was that motherfucker doing with his life BEFORE he got you pregnant?

Why Would they have babies with guys who actually find them attractive and talk to them? It's a gross over-simplification I'm making but there are plenty of stereotypes and beauty standards that make it harder for black women to be deemed approachable and attractive.

 

[SyNapSe]

haha, that was great. It's like something out of Falling Down. He just snapped and they deserved it.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Thats why you shouldn't try to fight people.You don't know if they are crazy as hell or whatever.

 

[SSJ1Goku]

Why Would they have babies with guys who actually find them attractive and talk to them? It's a gross over-simplification I'm making but there are plenty of stereotypes and beauty standards that make it harder for black women to be deemed approachable and attractive.

BEAUTY STANDARDS?!?!?! 80% of BW are overweight or obese. BW aren't even in the stadium! Out of wedlock kids all over the damn place and BW with no fathers so they don't know how to act when in a relationship. And you want to make this into some kind of light skin, dark skin issue. REALLY?!?!

Sista let me put it to you this way if a guy like me (and I'm just using me) did not want a BW, my ass would have been gone A LONG TIME AGO and be justified simply based on all the bullshit BW are on! The fact that there are still brothas out here talking about the issues in the community means that we care. I want to be with a BW, but I'm not going to get with any BW.

Now having said that, I WILL NOT be waiting around. I do currently date out all the time (all races). I won't hold off forever though.

 

[Parallax]

BEAUTY STANDARDS?!?!?! 80% of BW are overweight or obese. BW aren't even in the stadium! Out of wedlock kids all over the damn place and BW with no fathers so they don't know how to act when in a relationship. And you want to make this into some kind of light skin, dark skin issue. REALLY?!?!

Sista let me put it to you this way if a guy like me (and I'm just using me) did not want a BW, my ass would have been gone A LONG TIME AGO and be justified simply based on all the bullshit BW are on! The fact that there are still brothas out here talking about the issues in the community means that we care. I want to be with a BW, but I'm not going to get with any BW.

Now having said that, I WILL NOT be waiting around. I do currently date out all the time. I won't wait forever though.

Well, this thread is dead. I'm out, peace!

 

[Devolution]

BEAUTY STANDARDS?!?!?! 80% of BW are overweight or obese. BW aren't even in the stadium! Out of wedlock kids all over the damn place and BW with no fathers so they don't know how to act when in a relationship. And you want to make this into some kind of light skin, dark skin issue. REALLY?!?!

It's funny how you were so keen to quote statistics and rationalizations about why BW are terrible and yet when I reply with social issues that work against them you flip a shit. Also unless they're some kind of asexual being BW can't have kids all by their lonesome.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

31-year old male still working at WacArnold's? Yeah, that seems like a dude who could blow the fuck up at any moment. :/

He was working there because he just got done doing a 10+ year prison bid for killing a classmate. Not a lot of job opportunities for convicted murderers. You know how when you were younger/in high school and there was always those loudmouth, arrogrant douchey pricks and people used to say "One day they will pick on the wrong person...". That's exactly what happened here.

 

[SSJ1Goku]

It's funny how you were so keen to quote statistics and rationalizations about why BW are terrible and yet when I reply with social issues that work against them you flip a shit. Also unless they're some kind of asexual being BW can't have kids all by their lonesome.

I answered both of your questions. Beauty standards as in white media beauty standard right? If that is what you are refering to then it has no place in this discussion. Were you by any chance trying to make the claim that BW get with lesser males JUST BECAUSE those males happen to find them attractive, completely ignoring his socio-economic situation? This is what I refer to as the "blank check" argument. I have heard it before from BW. Basically it means having anything is better than being alone. Was that your argument? If it was not then please word your post better.

 

[Zwei]

Thats why you shouldn't try to fight people.You don't know if they are crazy as hell or whatever.

He was working there because he just got done doing a 10+ year prison bid for killing a classmate.

Yep.

 

[Lebron]

"Fuck that, we gonna keep it real!"

"When keeping it real goes wrong."

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

Don't start shit and there won't be shit. Jump over that counter to get some and well, you certainly got some. Also, Popcopy.

 

[SSJ1Goku]

It's interesting how it is just as brutal everytime you watch it.