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Only 1 PSN account per Vita - Cancel your preorders :(
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plagiarize
Banned
so it's LESS shitty the the setup on the 3DS (if the op is right). doesn't stop it being shitty.
clay_ghost
Member
Infinite Justice
Member
I know and was just responding to the poster since he had that sentence in there.
as for the losing info its fair enough since it is a "factory reset" but you should not be doing that entire step anyways for something like this.
Ok i forgot the content can be tied to the owner who bought it and the trophy plus friendlist stuff will compound this even further since those 2 are basically what makes each account different (for PSP it didn't matter since those were non existent)
Deadly Monk
Banned
Wow, this sucks. A lot. Formatting each time??
I'm still buying the system but this is depressing...
I'm still buying the system but this is depressing...
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Screw this. First Nintendo region locks the 3DS, and now Sony makes it even more annoying to use the supposedly "region-free' Vita than the PSP. I was hoping they would make the account situation like the PS3 so I wouldn't need to fuss with deleting and reactivating accounts, but now I have to reformat the whole machine? Not a chance. On my PSP memory stick currently, I have PSP games and PS1 games from both the American and Japanese PSN stores, as well as DLC for import UMD games. Not being able to use all that content on the Vita conveniently is unacceptable.
After the paradise the DS and PSP were to me, this new handheld generation is shaping up to be a huge disappointment. Fortunately I have enough older games to play that I can sit it out for the time being. Hopefully hackers will be able to crack this shit open.
After the paradise the DS and PSP were to me, this new handheld generation is shaping up to be a huge disappointment. Fortunately I have enough older games to play that I can sit it out for the time being. Hopefully hackers will be able to crack this shit open.
That's the first thing that came to my mind when I read the OP.
Formatting is erasing everything and going back to default settings. I said as much in the quote, with the whole "erase everything" comment. I think you read my comment (I'm not sure, since I don't really see what "spin" rather than a pretty understandable conclusion), so asking that question is weird.
The reason I put "formatting could = deactivating account" is pretty simple. OP said his translation may be a bit off. Based on what Aeana said, it does seem like you'll have to erase everything and go back to square one. We'll know 100% either way in 2 weeks.
My lack of knowledge of the Japanese language is something I don't hide, so I don't really know what the Japanese in the OP means.
If you have 2 PSPs, why is this a surprise? The major bummer is the need to erase things, and redownload them. PSP got the PlayStation Store well after the PS3, and there never was a technical reason preventing multiple accounts on the hardware, it was Sony's mantra of "1 handheld per person".
None, Nintendo doesn't have an accounts system.
Exactly. Just because Nintendo staunchly defends their prehistoric policies doesn't mean that Sony should be applauded for advancing to the middle ages and stopping there.
Not if games are tied to their respective accounts...
Does PSP require you to login to the account you downloaded a game from to be able to play it?
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Its evolving into the next Bomba meme.
Its a shame they're doing this. I've only used my other region PSN accounts for downloading a rare demo here and there on PS3. So I don't see this really affecting me. I also don't really import games to often, but I guess now if i wanted to I'd go the physical media route and its all good?
What a joke Sony has become. They are so out of touch with reality it's become pitiful. Do they really not want parents buying the vita for their kids? Are they really stupid enough to think that most parents are going to buy multiple vita's so each of their children can have their own?
Oh well, it's interested to watch their slow decent into irrelevance in the video game market. They have enough work cut out for them trying to fend off against smartphones. You'd think they'd at least try to make their product as attractive as possible.
Oh well, it's interested to watch their slow decent into irrelevance in the video game market. They have enough work cut out for them trying to fend off against smartphones. You'd think they'd at least try to make their product as attractive as possible.
As long as you don't want to buy any DLC.
That's what makes it still a lot better than 3DS, but it's not enough.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Yes, you cannot play a game if it was purchased with a different account from the one currently activated on the system.
DangerousDave
Member
This is shit. A lot of europeans use 2 accounts, one for our country, another one for US games that somehow didn't reach europe (or are much cheaper in dollars than in euros).
It was annoying in the PSP to wait until you reach home to switch accounts and then play a game of another account. But, deleting all the config data? Seriously?
It was annoying in the PSP to wait until you reach home to switch accounts and then play a game of another account. But, deleting all the config data? Seriously?
Isn't this just a GAF meme?
At least I don't already have several 3DS accounts that won't work on my 3DS.
Things are different. They're worse.
This affects those that want to:
- gameshare
- buy from different regions
- share 1 Vita with multiple people.
Since none of the 3 apply to me, Im okay.
The one Sony should be worrying about is buying from different regions, as that is a loss (probably small, but still a loss) of money. Hopefully there are some PSN updates in progress to allow people to buy from different regions without many obstacles (or at least just having to use one account)
So you want to gameshare, and yeah, that's not going to happen.
- gameshare
- buy from different regions
- share 1 Vita with multiple people.
Since none of the 3 apply to me, Im okay.
The one Sony should be worrying about is buying from different regions, as that is a loss (probably small, but still a loss) of money. Hopefully there are some PSN updates in progress to allow people to buy from different regions without many obstacles (or at least just having to use one account)
So you want to gameshare, and yeah, that's not going to happen.
SkylineRKR
Member
Its not shit if Sony gives Europe the same treatment as the US.
But they won't ever do that so this news is shit.
But they won't ever do that so this news is shit.
Yeah, I want to "gameshare" with my little brother that sleeps in the room next door, just like I "gameshare" the physical games I buy since the late 1980s.
Fuck off.
Infinite Justice
Member
Just remember you could be rewriting your wifi/network info, set date time, set wallpaper, etc everytime you do it now
toastyToast
Member
Preorder canceled.
Will purchase when there is a way to circumvent this.
Will purchase when there is a way to circumvent this.
Hey, you guys. Hold up.
Midou doesn't care about switching accounts, so neither should anybody else.
How do you figure? I live in the Philippines, have a US account and should be able to download just fine.
Your greediness is killing the industry. Do the right thing and expend the double than you did before.
Is there any handheld system, or has there been, that's advanced past the middle ages?
For the digital importer, the account switching situation is a step back on Vita but Vita is a step forward in terms of exposing the entire library to digital importing.
If you're not too attached to your settings, switching to get digital access to any Japanese or US or Euro game might not be big ask. It's not ideal, you have to jump through a hoop, but it is arguably a better mix of tradeoffs overall (even we agree the tradeoff shouldn't be necessary).
Deadly Monk
Banned
I bought some "best of" and exclusive PSP games from the Japanese PSN store in preparation for the Vita because I knew my UMDs wouldn't work. Since each game is tied to that account, reformatting and transferring the games I want to play each time is going to be a bitch.
This is actually something that can be changed in a firmware update, I hope they come to their senses.
This is actually something that can be changed in a firmware update, I hope they come to their senses.
SkylineRKR
Member
I already hated it on the PSP (i'd rather have the convenient Ps3 setup), but this news seems to imply it will be even worse on the Vita. Depends on what they exactly mean with 'Format'.
djplaeskool
Member
You don't actually know what's going on, do you?
Can't you just say that this sucks?
Why do you always have to defend everything Sony ever does?
What's worse is that you're European so you have much more of a use for switching accounts than the average American but you're still apparently willing to lie down and take whatever Sony puts on your plate.
"Everything else is worse so this <crappy thing> is not crappy at all." is a terrible defense for anything.
I also share my games with my little brother that lives with my parents, I have done so for the past 14 years.
When it comes to sharing digital games, I have only done so on PS3 when it was allowed, and despite that, I was okay when they lowered the amount of devices.
So in your own words, "Fuck off"
Not in terms of digital releases, no.
Agreed, but as I said earlier, being better than the norm isn't good enough when the norm is awful.
Well, it does suck, but it's fair to maintain perspective and point out that even Sony's sucking is still better than everyone else in this respect.
It's fair but not at all useful in this conversation.
charlequin
Banned
This is bad relative to the system's predecessor. This is a downgrade of functionality in an area where everyone expected improvements.
"Person A tazed me in the genitals, so person B should be forgiven for tazing me only in the face!" is a lousy argument. The 3DS has (rightfully) gotten relentless criticism for its particular design flaws. Sony should be taking those as an opportunity to do a better job instead of as an excuse to pull their own bullshit.
googleplex
Member
This is about digital games, so maybe you shouldn't apply your false equivalencies here before telling someone to "fuck off"
This is the same way the PSP work so no surprises.
Well, what is useful in this conversation? I don't really see how our whining is useful either (that won't stop me from doing it though). Maybe the people posting their cancellation confirmations are being useful in case anyone from Sony is reading this.
It does suck, but I have a bit of perspective.
It is crap in absolute terms vs the ideal. It's not crap - or at least less crap - relative to what else we've seen to date. And yes, just how crap something is is relative. If your machine was locked entirely to one account or the system suddenly wasn't region-free then I think it would be more appropriate to talk about it the way some here are.
As is it's probably still the best set up for importing on a handheld overall to date, purely because the whole catalog is available instantaneously to any system, as long as you're willing to let go of your settings. Yes, switching is more problematic than on the PSP, but everything's available to you when you do switch, and I think that's 'better' on balance.
Is it the best possible system? No!
GTP_Daverytimes
Member
Just like the psp, whats the big deal. It's a personal entertainment unit not a Home entertainment unit.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
So Sony first make the VITA region free than locks accounts? Why make it region free in the first place? So dumb.