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[mclem]

An Angry Birds car could have an awesome design.

If they followed it to its natural conclusion, though, I'm not sure it'll be very aerodynamic.

Also, they need to screen people in the stands very carefully. If anyone has a t-shirt with a pig on it, it's a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

I meant more just the livery.

If you actually designed the car around the birds... well... that would make F1 better, without a shadow of a doubt.

 

[brotkasten]

They need to hire Massa and Hamilton to drive them.

Massa is the pig, Hamilton the bird?

 

[Xun]

We're going to need 3 OT's this season at the rate this thread is going.

Never seen F1 Gaf so active.

Given how less people will have access to it this year it'll calm down a bit.

 

[S. L.]

Given how less people will have access to it this year it'll calm down a bit.

how many uk gaffers are even here?
and how many of them are affected?

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

This thread seems to be most populated with Brits. And unless they want to fork out £40 or find a Sky Go pass to borrow, a hell of a lot of people won't have the same access to F1 this year.

 

[S. L.]

This thread seems to be most populated with Brits.

while that would explain the general Vettel dislike, it doesn't really explain the Webber thing

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Yeah, because all Brits still hate the Germans cos of WW2? Bit of a fucking stupid thing to say there mate.

Most Brits like Vettel and we love Webber cos he's a top bloke. You have to be a moron to have a bias or affection for someone because of your or their nation.

 

[Xun]

while that would explain the general Vettel dislike, it doesn't really explain the Webber thing

The hell?

It's hard to dislike Vettel, but I personally want to see someone other than Vettel win again this year.

 

[Psychotext]

I like Vettel.

I like Webber mostly because he was DC's teammate. I'd be pretty much oblivious to him otherwise.

 

[S. L.]

maybe dislike is a too hard word, but he certainly isn't a favorite around here

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

I think people are a bit bored of him always winning. It'd be hard to find people who dislike him, he's a nice fella.

And the implication there's still racism against the Germans really was a retarded thing to say.

 

[Dilly]

while that would explain the general Vettel dislike, it doesn't really explain the Webber thing

Can't forget about the ol' colonies!

 

[navanman]

Seem to remember something awfully similar from Trulli last year when he was shit!!

Kimi Raikkonen fears it may take some time for Lotus to deliver a total fix to his power steering problems, after further issues with it hampered his opening day of running at the Australian Grand Prix.

The Lotus driver only completed eight laps in first practice while the team made alterations to the power steering because the Finn was not happy with the way it originally felt.

It is understood Raikkonen is seeking to get more precision from the steering, and solutions implemented by his Enstone-based outfit so far have not been successful.

Although he is hopeful that a further update planned for the Malaysian Grand Prix will improve matters, he thinks a solution that makes him happy on all types of track may not be the work of the moment.

"It is what it is, and I will try to do the best with it," he said when asked by AUTOSPORT about the steering situation.

Autosport

 

[S. L.]

I think people are a bit bored of him always winning. It'd be hard to find people who dislike him, he's a nice fella.

And the implication there's still racism against the Germans really was a retarded thing to say.

It was more the implication that British drivers are favored, but eh

 

[brotkasten]

while that would explain the general Vettel dislike, it doesn't really explain the Webber thing

I don't think anyone here truly dislikes Vettel as a person. It's just SO BORING to see him win all the time. Sure, it's not really his fault, but that doesn't change anything. It was the same with Schumacher few years ago (except that people actually had a reason to hate him).

Seem to remember something awfully similar from Trulli last year when he was shit!!


Autosport

Oh my God :lol

 

[S. L.]

Seem to remember something awfully similar from Trulli last year when he was shit!!


Autosport

it's the Lotus curse

 

[Adamm]

Did sky sports have adverts during live practice, or is it just the replay?

Or does practice not count in their "no ads" promise?

 

[brotkasten]

Did sky sports have adverts during live practice, or is it just the replay?

Or does practice not count in their "no ads" promise?

Ads are in practice only, they won't show any in quali or during the race.

 

[Lucius86]

while that would explain the general Vettel dislike, it doesn't really explain the Webber thing

WHAT?! How can you hate that man? The reason people may appear to dislike him is because:

1. He destroyed all competition last year.
2. Omiee can go overboard with his love and blind support for him.

Webber gets so much love because....well...just look at him.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

the collective man crush on Webber can be more annoying at times then Vettel hate.

 

[NHale]

Now Alonso says to Marca that the car feels good and that the front row on the grid is a possibility. Probably a lie to calm down his fans.

The consensus seems to be that Mercedes is the smoother car on the track which is odd since they had tyre degradation problems during testing.

 

[mclem]

This thread seems to be most populated with Brits. And unless they want to fork out £40 or find a Sky Go pass to borrow, a hell of a lot of people won't have the same access to F1 this year.

I'm past the days of catching the late-night races anyway, so I suspect in a lot of cases the highlights will be perfectly sufficient and *signficiantly more convenient* than live. There's a few races I might have to just grit my teeth and be patient for, though!

 

[SunhiLegend]

Now Alonso says to Marca that the car feels good and that the front row on the grid is a possibility. Probably a lie to calm down his fans.

Makes me feel a little bit better although I know its a LIE!

 

[dalin80]

My hatred for vettel comes as a reaction to people worshipping him and heralding as one of the all time great while seemingly oblivious that the wins came mainly due to a hilariously fast car giving a insurmountable advantage.

 

[Britprog]

My hatred for vettel comes as a reaction to people worshipping him and heralding as one of the all time great while seemingly oblivious that the wins came mainly due to a hilariously fast car giving a insurmountable advantage.

QFT

 

[Shaneus]

Can't forget about the ol' colonies!

mate

the collective man crush on Webber can be more annoying at times then Vettel hate.

That's because you have to give in. Once you finally let go of whatever's holding back your true feelings, you can join the celebration of his being with the rest of us. It's pretty awesome.

Fun fact, guys: Heinz-Harald has made an appearance this weekend, racing in the Carrera Cup. Given Porsche's involvement in the weekend, I managed to see, for the first time in person, a Panamera.

By GOD it's ugly. It's about as ugly as Webber is handsome.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

My hatred for vettel comes as a reaction to people worshipping him and heralding as one of the all time great while seemingly oblivious that the wins came mainly due to a hilariously fast car giving a insurmountable advantage.

Could say the same thing about the likes of Fangio, Clark, Ascari, Schumacher and even Senna and Prost. Championships are won while driving the best, often dominant cars.

 

[Deadman]

My hatred for vettel comes as a reaction to people worshipping him and heralding as one of the all time great while seemingly oblivious that the wins came mainly due to a hilariously fast car giving a insurmountable advantage.

Virtually every champion wins because his car was the best that year, especially in the modern era.

 

[Lach]

My hatred for vettel comes as a reaction to people worshipping him and heralding as one of the all time great while seemingly oblivious that the wins came mainly due to a hilariously fast car giving a insurmountable advantage.

You could argue that he already did very well in the Torro Rosso or even in his debut in the Sauber. Wether he's an "all time great" or not I like him because of his likeabilty and modesty he displays in interviews.

 

[pappe]

Virtually every champion wins because his car was the best that year, especially in the modern era.

Except if you are Kimi.

 

[Deadman]

Except if you are Kimi.

I agree. Since I started watching f1 (96) I'd say 2007 is the only year the best car didn't win.

 

[dalin80]

Could say the same thing about the likes of Fangio, Clark, Ascari, Schumacher and even Senna and Prost. Championships are won while driving the best, often dominant cars.

Agreed, you easily could. Just in the modern day of fanboys the car is utterly ignored as a factor.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Except if you are Kimi.

I'd still put the F2003-GA and the Renault R25 ahead of the MP4-17 and the MP4-20.

 

[ReadingRambo]

Virtually every champion wins because his car was the best that year, especially in the modern era.

Doesn't really jive considering every car has a duplicate (or near enough as makes no difference) on track.

 

[RSTEIN]

But vettel beat webber, and every champion had to beat their team mate first, in virtually identical cars. Whoever wins in any year is the deserving champion, best car or not.

 

[Psychotext]

All of that aside, I still think he's the best qualifier out there. He's just got something that others don't seem to over a single lap.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Doesn't really jive considering every car has a duplicate (or near enough as makes no difference) on track.

How often does the team that is dominating actually have 2 of the highest quality drivers racing for them? Usually it's one really good driver with a much less talented one next to him.

Not saying they aren't deserving champions but the fact that someone else has a near identical car doesn't really say much.

 

[sohois]

Hey F1 Gaf, quick question for you guys.
It seems that I will have the opportunity to go to the Shanghai GP this year, but I can't really recall what it's like, indeed I'm not sure if I've even seen the Shanghai GP televised before. Do bear in mind though that I am a fan of F1 and try to watch on it on the TV whenever I have the chance.

Do you think I should go? And does anyone have any suggestions on where I should sit if I did?

 

[Edmond Dantès]

I agree. Since I started watching f1 (96) I'd say 2007 is the only year the best car didn't win.

The MP4-22 won eight races and got 8 poles, the F2007 won nine and got 9 poles and won the constructors' title. I'd say the Ferrari was just as good as the McLaren if not better.

 

[ReadingRambo]

Well last year it said quite a bit considering RBR had two world champs and one of them only managed a single win that was gifted to him by the team. The driver still makes a pretty big difference. Take Button in the rain for example.

 

[NHale]

Virtually every champion wins because his car was the best that year, especially in the modern era.

Button also won despite RBR being the faster car after the first 6/7 races.

The MP4-22 won eight races and got 8 poles, the F2007 won nine and got 9 poles and won the constructors' title. I'd say the Ferrari was just as good as the McLaren if not better.

You can't explain everything with numbers because they don't reflect the silly mistakes made by Hamilton and how the Hamilton vs. Alonso clash screwed the team.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Hey F1 Gaf, quick question for you guys.
It seems that I will have the opportunity to go to the Shanghai GP this year, but I can't really recall what it's like, indeed I'm not sure if I've even seen the Shanghai GP televised before. Do bear in mind though that I am a fan of F1 and try to watch on it on the TV whenever I have the chance.

Do you think I should go? And does anyone have any suggestions on where I should sit if I did?

A F1 Grand Prix is like no other experience in the world and is something everyone should experience at least once in their lifetime. If you have the chance then do it.

Grandstand seats would be good.

 

[pappe]

The MP4-22 won eight races and got 8 poles, the F2007 won nine and got 9 poles and won the constructors' title. I'd say the Ferrari was just as good as the McLaren if not better.

Ferrari won the constructors,but Mclaren should have, but they were suspended from the Constructors that year because they were caught cheating.

 

[Deadman]

The MP4-22 won eight races and got 8 poles, the F2007 won nine and got 9 poles and won the constructors' title. I'd say the Ferrari was just as good as the McLaren if not better.

True in terms of pure speed it was probably equal but on reliability the mclaren was superior. Kimi had 2 mechanical retirements whereas Hamilton and Alonso both had 0. That's why he was so far behind going in to the last 2 races.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Ferrari won the constructors,but Mclaren should have, but they were suspended from the Constructors that year because they were caught cheating.

On paper they did and that's what will be remembered throughout the ages.

 

[andylsun]

OK, put me down on the Michael Schumacher train for this season....

 

[operon]

OK, put me down on the Michael Schumacher train for this season....

I never got off go Schumi, looking forward to eddie eating crow when Michael wins a race

 

[pappe]

Well last year it said quite a bit considering RBR had two world champs and one of them only managed a single win that was gifted to him by the team. The driver still makes a pretty big difference. Take Button in the rain for example.

When did Webber become a world champ?

 

[pappe]

On paper they did and that's what will be remembered throughout the ages.

The discussion here is who was faster in 2007, you cannot just refer 'the paper' for that you have take into considerations a lot of things.