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PlayStation All-Stars joined by Heihachi and Toro
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Absolutely nothing I've read about this game suggests it's being designed to be more competitive than Smash. In fact everything suggests the exact opposite.
The Parappa stage makes me want to buy this.
Like, nothing else about it really does(though Heihachi is cool), but that Parappa stage is doing it for me. I guess the game just kind of weirds me out because of all the 'realistic' looking characters in it. Smash used Nintendo's cartoony art style, but this is taking something like Nathan Drake and putting him in the same level as Parappa. It just looks real jarring.
Like, nothing else about it really does(though Heihachi is cool), but that Parappa stage is doing it for me. I guess the game just kind of weirds me out because of all the 'realistic' looking characters in it. Smash used Nintendo's cartoony art style, but this is taking something like Nathan Drake and putting him in the same level as Parappa. It just looks real jarring.
SolidSnakex
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Many of us were asking for a Tekken character, you can go back to that "PS All Star discussion thread" and see that series brought up quite often. We were just unsure who it'd be since Tekken has so many character. Some thought it'd be Paul since he appeared in that 'Michael' commercial. But Tekken definitely deserved a spot. It was one of the top most popular series on the PSone, and i'd argue that the PSone era should end up dominating in terms of characters. There were more iconic franchises/characters created that generation than any other as far as PS goes.
Chuck Norris
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Wasn't Jak already revealed?
You ever play Smash? That's exactly how it works in timed matches and nobody's ever had a problem with it.
They've already said there will also be a stock mode where you'll be able to see how many lives you have left.
Yep.
immortal-joe
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but there's no justice.
but there's no justice.
I don't know if stock matches will make things much better with the way many of the Level 3 supers are looking.
"Oh no, I'm down to one life, and everyone else has two. Ok, I better play it cool and smart, gotta pick my spots very carefu-... oh, nevermind. A guy is using his Level 3 so I may as well just put the controller down and watch the 'kill everything cinematic'."
What other games is he in, in a non-guest slot capacity?
Does the exact same as smash with their timed mode yet, isn't being designed to be more competitive. Makes sense.
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Here is some info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toro_(cartoon_character)
Not many games on his own, but i dont think that this matter. What matters is how known something is.
English wikipedia entry is very lacking. Toro has starred in a lot more games than what's listed. He's also been in cameos of dozens of games. He once starred in a Hot Shots Mini-Golf spinoff.
Edit: Here's the Japanese history page. Toro has starred in 16 different games. He's also starred in his own movie.
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Cool, he have been in quite a few games indeed.
corporate cheerleader
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True, many people wanted a Tekken rep in the game and I'm glad it's Heihachi. It was a really strong brand for the PlayStation, it only makes sense to put one of its characters in the game.
IIRC, the home version of SF4 had exactly 25 characters.
Except the post in question said 25-30, which seems reasonable considering the source material and the competition. And arguing that the characters shouldn't be on disk is essentially going against the basic standards set by most fighting games of the last couple of generations. Even Capcom's worst instance of nickel and diming, SFxT starts out with 30+ characters available off the bat.
See above.
I wanted a Tekken character, just not the most boring possible choice. Should have been Lili.
SolidSnakex
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corporate cheerleader
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What would Lili's level 3 super be? Falling on her ass and accidentally showing her panties to the opponents, killing all of them at once? Yeah, that sounds way more interesting than getting chained to a fucking rocket heading for space.
Who the fuck cares about Heihachi? there are tons of other Tekken characters to choose from.
What a waste of a char slot.
At least give us the most popular one. Jin Kazama. He's x10000 times better than this old sack who everyone hates.
What a waste of a char slot.
At least give us the most popular one. Jin Kazama. He's x10000 times better than this old sack who everyone hates.
I realize in my quote I shouldn't have used the general term 'fighting games' for my rough estimate of what makes a good roster count, because there are games where characters are incredibly unique and their quality more than makes up for a smaller roster overall. (BlazBlue, Skullgirls)
But don't deny that you stretched what I said to its absolute limit and then go on a tirade about how people ask for too much in a video game.
Really? I don't recall asking for 35+ characters that are all on the disc unlocked, free, and with a game under $60. I said that I think games should strive to reach a number of characters that total to around the mid-late 20s in number. (a hefty number of fighting games that I have played this generation managed to make it to this number, it isn't as unreasonable as you make it to be)
get2sammyb
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Raises hand. People are really bitter about this game, it's kind of funny. I hope the development team channels all the criticism and scepticism in a positive way.
I think the graphics are fine, but I agree with the complaints about the UI and menu screens. Obviously the gameplay is the most important thing, but I hope they nail the overall "tone" of this game. It should do the old-school PlayStation boot screen during loading for example. Stuff like that is what will elevate the game to the next level.
Alot of people care, not sure what type of question that is.
Canis lupus
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Don't forget Tekken 6 was the best selling single entry game behind Super Smash Bros. Brawl of this generation.
And that's just in addition to being one of the defining games of the early PlayStation days.
I think he is a fine choice and the most recognizable to me (I haven't played Tekken since the early PS2 days.)
Edit: About the game in general: I have to agree with the people that say the presentation of the game is bad and I can't believe that this is anywhere near final. It looks like they cobble a build together for all these events while withholding how the game's menu and stuff will look later.
The actual gameplay part based on the exhibition matches at Evo looked very fun.
And that's just in addition to being one of the defining games of the early PlayStation days.
I think he is a fine choice and the most recognizable to me (I haven't played Tekken since the early PS2 days.)
Edit: About the game in general: I have to agree with the people that say the presentation of the game is bad and I can't believe that this is anywhere near final. It looks like they cobble a build together for all these events while withholding how the game's menu and stuff will look later.
The actual gameplay part based on the exhibition matches at Evo looked very fun.
I don't know what this means.
H_Prestige
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this image looks great
This game looks about as charming as PS Home. What an awful visual style.
Hot Coldman
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I'm not surprised they picked Heihachi for this PlayStation game- they already did it before, with Heihachi in Soul Calibur II PS2. He's a good pick I think. It was either him or Kazuya, really, and I think Heihachi works better as a legacy pick rather than the face of modern Tekken (which would be missing the point, I think).
Jin might have been good. He was the face of Tekken 3, probably the biggest game in the series and a big hit on PS1.
Jin might have been good. He was the face of Tekken 3, probably the biggest game in the series and a big hit on PS1.
If you count individual games it's the second best selling fighting game in the last few years.
If you count the different Street Fighter 4 versions as one game, then it's the third best selling video game in the last few years.
Hot Coldman
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Haha, funny thing about Bloody Roar, I played it a lot when I was younger but I have no fucking clue at all who any of the characters are.
My go-to fighter was Rival Schools... we need some of that in this
They said they choose characters out of gameplay reasons and I can see plenty of ways of implementing Kat's powers to make her play differently from other characters.
I'm hoping.