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Wkd Box Office Est. 07•20-22•12 - and still we rise

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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Does anyone else think that the shooting will help sales in the coming weeks? Now the movie is more than a big media event, it's part of a national tragedy, at least in my opinion.

No. Not at all.
 
Does anyone else think that the shooting will help sales in the coming weeks? Now the movie is more than a big media event, it's part of a national tragedy, at least in my opinion.
I don't think it'll help at all. It's a permanent stain.

That's like asking if Natalee Holloway's disappearance would increase tourism in Aruba :p
 

~Kinggi~

Banned
Does anyone else think that the shooting will help sales in the coming weeks? Now the movie is more than a big media event, it's part of a national tragedy, at least in my opinion.

Thats also possible, but i doubt there will ever be conclusive data on something so tragic and warped.
 

Tobor

Member
Good observation.

I went ahead and saw it Friday afternoon and took my kids with me, but I certainly wasn't in a movie-going mood. I enjoyed the movie, but with all of it hanging in my mind, I don't think I enjoyed it as much as I would have, plus I spent most of the movie trying to keep one eye on the screen and one eye watching the exits and anyone who got up and moved around or walked out during the film.

It definitely detracted from the experience. In my showing, a cop checked the exit before the start of the movie by loudly shaking the exit door, and during the movie an usher checked the exit door three or four times with a flashlight. Each time I was instantly drawn out of the movie.

Not that they shouldn't have done it. It was just surreal.
 

jakncoke

Banned
It definitely detracted from the experience. In my showing, a cop checked the exit before the start of the movie by loudly shaking the exit door, and during the movie an usher checked the exit door three or four times with a flashlight. Each time I was instantly drawn out of the movie.

Not that they shouldn't have done it. It was just surreal.

Yeah i had a usher or rent of cop type dude walk around the flat part like 15 min in. Never in my 10 or so times at Atlas have I ever seen a dude. Even seen a rent a cop type dude waiting in car outside as the movie ended and everyone was leaving.
 

artist

Banned
Well if people have issues with planar and GJB's post then they should have issue with comments like these also;
The fact of the matter is, 200 million was never going to happen, even if the shooting never happened. Everyone will play the "what if" card, but the fact of the matter tis, the movie just wasn't as good as the second, and surely wasn't as good as the avengers imo.

I remember reading the BO thread when avengers came out, I think majority of the people said "Just wait for TDKR to release".
Fact of the matter is we will never know. But it had a VERY good chance of breaking 200M. WB released their expected numbers and it was 170-180M pre-weekend and studios ALWAYS low ball their expected numbers. For Avengers the same pre-weekend expected numbers were even lower and look at how that turned out .. I always believed that this movie would fall short of the 200M mark but its shame that people are rubbishing away that it never even had a shot.
 
Does anyone else think that the shooting will help sales in the coming weeks? Now the movie is more than a big media event, it's part of a national tragedy, at least in my opinion.
Not so sure about that.

I predict it will have damn good legs due to all the people who wanted to see it coming to terms with the tragic event over time, but it actually boosting the sales overall? Nah.

It definitely detracted from the experience. In my showing, a cop checked the exit before the start of the movie by loudly shaking the exit door, and during the movie an usher checked the exit door three or four times with a flashlight. Each time I was instantly drawn out of the movie.

Not that they shouldn't have done it. It was just surreal.
That sounds fairly ridiculous and distracting, hopefully nothing of that sort happens when I go see the movie.
 

Reiko

Banned
It seems like opening night.... Except for Colorado was the best way to watch TDKR in the theater without distractions.
 

Tobor

Member
That sounds fairly ridiculous and distracting, hopefully nothing of that sort happens when I go see the movie.

I was at a Regal cinema, I'm sure they were given guidelines by corporate, so I'd imagine that's being done across the chain.

They usually have one off duty cop on Friday and Saturday night, but I'd never seen one at 11AM until yesterday.
 

Solo

Member
Does anyone else think that the shooting will help sales in the coming weeks?

I wouldn't word it like that at all. But you have the right idea, just expressed backwards. The shootings had a huge impact on BO sales this weekend. But consumerism is consumerism and isn't going to stop. All those people who didn't go this weekend will eventually still go.

I expect the second and third weekends will be huge.
 

MechDX

Member
Could this issue cause the studios to rethink the idea of new release movies being released as "On Demand" on satellite & cable on release date?
 
I was at a Regal cinema, I'm sure they were given guidelines by corporate, so I'd imagine that's being done across the chain.

They usually have one off duty cop on Friday and Saturday night, but I'd never seen one at 11AM until yesterday.

Went to a regal place and nope.
 
I think there is a chance that some families may not return to movies, period.

I have a friend that has a wife and kids (so they rarely go to the movies as it is).

He's pretty turned off by all the events of this past weekend and is considering just waiting for BR for everything now.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
I would word it like that at all. But you have the right idea, just expressed backwards. The shootings had a huge impact on BO sales this weekend. But consumerism is consumerism and isn't going to stop. All those people who didn't go this weekend will eventually still go.

I expect the second and third weekends will be huge.

True, though I do think it lost out on some business its just not going to get back- the ultra casual let's be part of an event crowd.
 
My girl was pretty excited to see DKR but said shes cool with just waiting for it to hit redbox cause of the shooting, more because of deflating interest than being scared of going to the theater.

Its a depressing movie with terroism, theres more than one variable as to why the movie wont hit its full potential now.
 

GraveRobberX

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Could this issue cause the studios to rethink the idea of new release movies being released as "On Demand" on satellite & cable on release date?

No way

How would you even price that lol?

$49.99 like a UFC fight?

At theaters it's individually based ticker price, can't be replicated @ home

Also the cycle of movie release is set in stone

Theater > Blu-Ray/DVD > Stream/VOD > Rentals > Cable (sub based channels ala HBO/Showtime > Basic Cable/Reg TV rights

No way you'll lose one of those
 

3N16MA

Banned
Well if people have issues with planar and GJB's post then they should have issue with comments like these also;

Fact of the matter is we will never know. But it had a VERY good chance of breaking 200M. WB released their expected numbers and it was 170-180M pre-weekend and studios ALWAYS low ball their expected numbers. For Avengers the same pre-weekend expected numbers were even lower and look at how that turned out .. I always believed that this movie would fall short of the 200M mark but its shame that people are rubbishing away that it never even had a shot.

Topping TA was always going to be difficult given the 3D boost. TDKR was the last 2D only film that had a real shot at topping it. I think $190M+ was a real possibility and even if it did not top TA OW gross it would have easily sold more tickets.
 

Solo

Member
Could this issue cause the studios to rethink the idea of new release movies being released as "On Demand" on satellite & cable on release date?

Nope, but I suspect we'll start seeing malls/cineplexes implementing security procedures like airports did post 9/11. Not to the extent of airport security, but even just having metal detectors would go a long way.
 

artist

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Topping TA was always going to be difficult given the 3D boost. TDKR was the last 2D only film that had a real shot at topping it. I think $190M+ was a real possibility and even if it did not top TA OW gross it would have easily sold more tickets.
Agreed.
 

3N16MA

Banned
I think there is a chance that some families may not return to movies, period.

I have a friend that has a wife and kids (so they rarely go to the movies as it is).

He's pretty turned off by all the events of this past weekend and is considering just waiting for BR for everything now.

I do think some casuals will just skip it and catch it on Blu-Ray/DVD. Their hype might fade after OW and they will be in no rush to see it.
 

MechDX

Member
No way

How would you even price that lol?

$49.99 like a UFC fight?

At theaters it's individually based ticker price, can't be replicated @ home

Also the cycle of movie release is set in stone

Theater > Blu-Ray/DVD > Stream/VOD > Rentals > Cable (sub based channels ala HBO/Showtime > Basic Cable/Reg TV rights

No way you'll lose one of those

I was thinking the $49.99 thing. It would not effect disc sales or later (cheaper) VOD sales. It could just REALLY hurt theaters badly.
 
Nope, but I suspect we'll start seeing malls/cineplexes implementing security procedures like airports did post 9/11. Not to the extent of airport security, but even just having metal detectors would go a long way.

The suspect in Aurora came in through the back door.

Metal detectors in the front would be just a visual deterrent.
 

Tobor

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The suspect in Aurora came in through the back door.

Metal detectors in the front would be just a visual deterrent.

What definitely needs to happen is to remove parking spaces behind the exit doors, and install security cameras monitoring each door from the outside.
 
Nope, but I suspect we'll start seeing malls/cineplexes implementing security procedures like airports did post 9/11. Not to the extent of airport security, but even just having metal detectors would go a long way.

The last thing that the Theater industry needs is one more reason for people to stay home and the lines/inconvenience caused by metal detectors would probably be the last straw for quite a few people.
 

Awesome

Banned
I don't understand why movie companies haven't gone forward with the movie releases at home like they planned to a few years ago, one view would cost like $50.
 
Definitely think the numbers took a hit from Aurora. Very tragic, but this is what we're left with. I think it's going to have a massive second weekend with a good amount of attendees that skipped out this weekend.

For what it's worth, where I'm at, the theaters didn't take a hit at all. We sold out damn near every showing (including the early AM shows on Saturday). I'm in Florida though, so I feel like being a considerable distance from Colorado might have lessened the impact.
 
I don't understand why movie companies haven't gone forward with the movie releases at home like they planned to a few years ago, one view would cost like $50.

Because a family of 4 going to the theatre spend a lot more than $50. We're talking about a movie that just made $160 million in a single weekend. The formula is not broken. The movie companies and more importantly theatre chains are making money hand over fist.
 

Reiko

Banned
The last thing that the Theater industry needs is one more reason for people to stay home and the lines/inconvenience caused by metal detectors would probably be the last straw for quite a few people.

It's either that or more fun with psychos.

It's a lose/lose situation.
 
The last thing that the Theater industry needs is one more reason for people to stay home and the lines/inconvenience caused by metal detectors would probably be the last straw for quite a few people.

Yeah, if the movie going experience even started to slightly mirror the TSA experience, I would be out. For travel, it's a necessary evil because all over my travel is usually a need not a want.

A movie is a 100% a luxury for me and having to wait in long metal detector lines to get inside and sit through even longer ads (to pay for all this added security) would be too much to deal with.

Seeing a movie isn't that important to me when weighed against that potential scenario.
 

Tobor

Member
Because a family of 4 going to the theatre spend a lot more than $50. We're talking about a movie that just made $160 million in a single weekend. The formula is not broken. The movie companies and more importantly theatre chains are making money hand over fist.

That money beyond the $50 all goes to the theater. That's why the studios are all for day and date home distribution, and the theaters are fighting it tooth and nail.
 

Awesome

Banned
Because a family of 4 going to the theatre spend a lot more than $50. We're talking about a movie that just made $160 million in a single weekend. The formula is not broken. The movie companies and more importantly theatre chains are making money hand over fist.

The movie companies don't give a crap about concession sales, since they would be distributing the movies directly for a family at home they would be getting most of the cut instead of giving some to the theaters.
 

3N16MA

Banned
I don't understand why movie companies haven't gone forward with the movie releases at home like they planned to a few years ago, one view would cost like $50.

I would do the same thing I do now with UFC events. Get a bunch of people together and split the cost. I'm guessing many people would do the same thing and studios know this.
 

MechDX

Member
I don't understand why movie companies haven't gone forward with the movie releases at home like they planned to a few years ago, one view would cost like $50.

I knew I saw that news before. Wasnt Paramount planning to do this with Transformers and when the theater chains got wind of it they blew their top?
 

3N16MA

Banned
That money beyond the $50 all goes to the theater. That's why the studios are all for day and date home distribution, and the theaters are fighting it tooth and nail.

If it happens, it would make movie nights a much more common thing. $50 and invite a bunch of people over to split the cost. Ends up being pretty cheap per person. Of course the screen would be smaller but watching at home makes up for that.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
I was so hyped to see the movie, but after Friday's shooting, I decided to hold off. It just ruined any enthusiasm I had to see it this weekend. I'll probably just end up going to a random morning showing some time this week.
 
That money beyond the $50 all goes to the theater. That's why the studios are all for day and date home distribution, and the theaters are fighting it tooth and nail.

What does that mean exactly? Releasing videos of their moving simultaneously with their theater release?
 
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