That's precisely what it means. Magnolia Releasing already does this with their films, but they're far more low-key releases. I think that IFC Films also does the same thing these days, as well.
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That's precisely what it means. Magnolia Releasing already does this with their films, but they're far more low-key releases. I think that IFC Films also does the same thing these days, as well.
Phoenician_Viking
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That would be pretty dreamy. An excellent excuse for more barbeques man. Get summer movie -> Invite everyone over -> win.
Magnolia also used to go even further than that with simultaneous on-demand, theatrical, and physical releases, but they ended up backing out of that due to the demands of the latter being too much for such a plan. That said, their films are on DVD/Blu-ray in a short time span after their theatrical runs; a couple of months, at most.
Ninja Scooter
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The point being that the movie studios and theatre companies have a very symbiotic and lucrative relationship. Why would the studios risk pissing off the theatre companies and putting that relationship in a bad state? IT's the same argument when people want $10 ala carte HBO Go. Everyone involved is making tons of money as is.
The studios and theater owners do not have a good relationship. Studios want the chains to update their projectors to HDD and away from reels and the chains wont do it because the cost would be too high.
The studios could give a rats ass about the theaters. When the talk came out a few years ago there was speculation the chains threatened to go the government saying an OnDemand type service would just destroy them and it would be an unfair practice.
GraveRobberX
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The problem is it has Super-Man syndrome
It's rebooted all over again (quickly too)
We get it "With Great Power comes Great Responsibility!" schtick
This one felt like an authentic comic book movie, but we didn't need a whole 45 minute refresher course again on the GODDAMN origin
I loved the action sequences, the flow of it all, but movie felt like 2-3 set pieces and drama in between those
You know you lost your audience when they go why isn't he shooting webs from his hands like the last movies, and using pellets in this one....
That alone destroyed the immersion lol
I haven't gotten around to see it yet.
I loved Raimi's trilogy too much and this re-boot happened too quickly for my tastes. Everything about it screams - cash in quickly so we don't lose the franchise back to Marvel. I know I'm on an island with my thinking, but I'm not rewarding this bullshit with my money.
Still..I'll probably catch it when it hits on demand or rent the BR.
I'll also feel the same way about Batman if WB reboots this shit in 3 years.
Let these films breathe a little.
And I'm also not hyped at all for The Man of Steel because I'm sick to fucking death of origin stories.
Good Job Bob
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Just cherish the Raimi trilogy and don't even bother with TAS, it really is just a soulless cash grab.
Regarding Man of Steel, the Superman origin story kind've had to be redone for a modern audience. They tried to go the other way with Superman Returns and look how that turned out.
I think the origin is the most fun part of the Spider-Man story, and the part with the most resonance. Spider Man has such a lame line-up of villains, once you actually get to the bad guys and main plots it gets stupid. I thought Amazing Spider Man was much more fun than the first Raimi film. I like that they don't beat around the bush as much with his secret identity, and that Gwen Stacy is pretty cool, strong, smart and confident (whereas Mary Jane was little more than a nerd trophy).
And there are people who saw TDKR who think
that Bruce Wayne died at the end or that Ra's Al Ghul was a ghost
Yeah what I meant is that it would bring the movie to a greater focus. Like how it's very likely that the Pepsi embargo at the Olympics will drive up Pepsi sales, but not quite like that.
Yes, TDKR has been impacted by the Aurora tragedy. And I was waiting for this thread like most of you. Let's see if it'll have better legs than anticipated or if what happened will influence the overall performance. IMHO, it's 50-50 between the two scenarios.
TheKaeptain
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Sony 4K is like the best thing not named IMAX.
Good Job Bob
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4K doesn't give the film a motion interpolation effect.
I think he forgot to mention the drops of acid he took before seeing the movie.
Philip K Dick keeping movies in business.
mr stroke
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Already better than Cars 2(193k)
Doesn't look like BRAVE will get anywhere near Toy Story 3(410k) or UP(293k) maybe 230-250k?
I hope this doesn't put Pixar back into sequel mode again. BRAVE was awesome
Well aren't we getting Monster Inc 2 and Finding Nemo 2 "soon"?
Actuals are starting to trickle in:
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/bo_numbers/actual_estimate/2012-07-23
Kind of impossible to deny the shooting's impact. Drops across the board are at historically awful levels.
http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/bo_numbers/actual_estimate/2012-07-23
Kind of impossible to deny the shooting's impact. Drops across the board are at historically awful levels.
evil solrac v3.0
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where is the TDKR numbers?
Wafflecakes
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Eh not really. It obviously had an effect but generally a 40% drop is good but 60% is fairly common on any weekend. So big.....but hardly shocking or disastrous.
Other than being comic book movies, I don't think you can compare Avengers to Dark Knight Rises. Fantasy vs Realism. Going for, and yet not going for, the same audience at the same time.
Across the board drops of over 50 percent and low 60's? Moonrise Kingdom, a movie that the week before had only an 18 percent drop, now has one that is over 50 percent? These are across the board large drops.
TheListener
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I really want to see Savages. Glad to see it hanging in there.
How about a link?
ABC is reporting $162 million
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment...es-162-million/story?id=16832140#.UA29UXCN-MV
Mega Man's Electric Sheep
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Spiderman 69% drop wow....everyone was right about how it better make its money before Batman...
Those are estimates. I got the number from Twitter, which was just announced moments ago.
ViewtifulJC
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Ya know, Avengers also holds the record for best second weekend at $103 million. You think TDKR could surpass that, after some time has passed and died down a bit?
Ninja Scooter
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it passed Batman and Robin's total gross in one weekend. SUCCESS!
lazybones18
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I wouldn't count on it
Wafflecakes
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Maybe 20% on top of normal total. Probably a little less.
As I said. Big. Not earth shattering though.
Here's your link Dany: http://www.variety.com/article/VR11...ews&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Poindexter
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It would need to have a drop of less than 37%. Highly doubtful but maybe next weekend more people will feel like going to the theater. I still wouldn't count on it though.
fatigues_gasolini
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My mind is blown that Magic Mike hit 100 million domestically.
bigtroyjon
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Weekend Avengers launched
Weekend Dark Knight launched
When a huge movie hits, everything else suffers.
While 160 million may seem a little low look at that Sunday hold:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/
Only a 10 percent drop off of a 44 million Saturday? Looks like the movie will have a long tail. Number are comparable to TDK:
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=darkknight.htm
500 million is still a possibility.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/
Only a 10 percent drop off of a 44 million Saturday? Looks like the movie will have a long tail. Number are comparable to TDK:
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=darkknight.htm
500 million is still a possibility.
For arm chair analysts sure, but don't the movie companies earn less of ticket sales as time goes on?
I'd bet a good bit of money on the answer being no. $161M is not exactly a low opening, even if the shooting lowered it by $20-30M. Look at it this way:
Here are the top opening weekends (subtracting midnights) and their second weekend drops:
Avengers - 1st wkd $188.7M - 2nd wkd $103.1M (-45.4%)
Spider-man 3 - 1st wkd $141.1M - 2nd wkd $58.2M (-58.8%)
TDK - 1st wkd $139.9M - 2nd wkd $75.2M (-46.3%)
Hunger Games - 1st wkd $132.8M - 2nd wkd $58.6M (-55.9%)
TDKR - 1st wkd $130.2M - 2nd wkd ???
Harry Potter 8 - 1st wkd $125.7M - 2nd wkd $47.4M (-62.3%)
So minus the initial midnights, all of the 150M+ earners dropped 45-62% in their second weekend. Minus midnights, TDKR would need to drop 20.9% or less to take the second weekend record. Larger midnights for TDKR were always going to lead to a larger second weekend drop than TDK. Maybe people going this weekend instead of last weekend will mitigate that a bit, but we aren't going to magically see an unheard of drop for the movie. I think that it is much more likely that TDKR has permanently lost some of its business and momentum due to the shootings than it is that we will see some crazy second weekend total. If TDKR's second weekend matches or comes close to TDK's second weekend, that will be a big success. Especially considering midnights were almost double.
No the movie theater does.
arts&crafts
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I bought 2 tickets for the same seat because I lost one (which I later found). That combined with me seeing the Dark Knight twice on opening day means I have done my part to help save Gotham.
Wafflecakes
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Not true.
Over time the theaters cut goes up because the studios give them a bigger cut to keep them from dropping the film. Every week the theater makes more money per ticket. If it was the other way around theaters would just drop old films after a few weeks.
Ninja Scooter
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WB should attach the ComicCon Man of Steel trailer to TDKR to get people to go back. Probably wouldn't work, but I want to see the ComicCon Man of Steel trailer on the big screen so fuck it.
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