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Yoichi Wada: Final Fantasy Versus XIII not cancelled

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this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
I'm pretty sure Kotaku did this to troll NeoGAF.
 
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Gorillaz

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It was kind of smart for kotaku.

1. More visitors
2. SE now has pressure back on them, especially with IGN now making mention of vs13 again.
 
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Spinluck

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The Praiseworthy said:
I still can't believe some people really believed that the game was cancelled or was never going to be released -_-"
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After 6yrs of development, people had more than a reason to believe that it might've been scrapped. Not to mention it not showing up, ANYWHERE.

There is no reason a video game should take this long to make.

And if pre-production or whatever phase may take this long, then don't announce the game so early.

EDIT: I'm glad that it isn't cancelled. And these "cities" that he's talking about don't mean much to me if they're not showing anything.
Have they confirmed that it won't show up at TGS this year?
 
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patsu

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Kagari said:
Sometimes information can get lost in the grape vine, so to say. It's not uncommon to get information that doesn't turn out to be true or is only partially true depending on the source.
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Sure, but they are in the business for a couple of years now ? I assume they would have developed some mechanism to source for alternate views ? (e.g., Why not ask you if other Gaffers seem to "know" and trust you with FF info for some time now. They can also report your "rumor" in the same article right ?).

I'm just saying they are taking the easy way out and "retweet" what others report. If they do a little more leg work, their report could be very different, and work to their advantage.

They would still get more traffic and yet gain better reputation. Now, they seem to be in the mud with IGN.
 
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Jonnyram said:
You guys need to get over yourselves.
Do people never post rumours on GAF?
Do people not love discussing the rumours that Kotaku posts?
Do people not appreciate that they actually got some fucking news out of Wada on the subject?
Your behaviour is pathetic... ban Kotaku? Ban yourselves for talking about it, then.
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i wouldn't be surprised if you were a freelance contributor for the site.
They're all about hits at this point, this rumor was pulled out of a place located between two buttcheeks. and we're supposed to thank them for more non-information from SE? Get over yourselves.
 
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Kagari

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patsu said:
Sure, but they are in the business for a couple of years now ? I assume they would have developed some mechanism to source for alternate views ? (e.g., Why not ask you if other Gaffers seem to "know" and trust you with FF info for some time now).

I'm just saying they are taking the easy way out and "retweet" what others report. If they do a little more leg work, their report could be very different, and work to their advantage.

They would still get more traffic and yet gain better reputation.
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All depends on who you know I suppose. And what you decide to share.
 
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patsu

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Kagari said:
All depends on who you know I suppose. And what you decide to share.
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Yes, and if they approached you with the other rumor, you would have said you heard otherwise right ? Just like you posted the same note here. It is indeed up to Kotaku how they want to approach, investigate and present the rumor, and how they want to build their business. They are not being smart. They can earn $$$ and trust at the same time.
 
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Persona86

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ED Cantu said:
OK now that this rumor has been clarified, what are the chances of seeing something new about the game at TGS?
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80%. For 4 reasons:
1. It's about time

2. Wada said he's been going to regular meetings, which shows that they are working hard on the game.

3. What's a better time to show off than TGS?

4. Rumours of TGS appearance.
 
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At least one positive thing to come out of this is that Yoichi Wada actually responded and emphatically said it's not cancelled and you will be blown away by our towns and stuff. I think Kotaku deserves credit for this even though they failed big time here.
 
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Kagari

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patsu said:
Yes, and if they approached you with the other rumor, you would have said you heard otherwise right ? Just like you posted the same note here. It is indeed up to Kotaku how they want to approach the rumor, and how they want to build their business. They are not being smart. They can earn $$$ and trust at the same time.
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Typically it's better if you try and get multiple sources, on possible different sides of the matter, yes.
 
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YAY! I couldn't see Square Enix cancelling an ambitious project like this, it's just not their style :p
How big are the chances to get a re-reveal at TGS and a solid release date for Q1 2013 worldwide? After all Square Enix is not new to give out release dates six months before the actual release nowdays.

Oh btw, Kagari for president!
 
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Valnen said:
Why the hell not? A rumor is a rumor. Websites like that would suck if they never posted them. There's always a chance they will be wrong, and if you can't handle that you shouldn't be reading rumor articles.

Also I find it offensive that you think you're some kind of authority on what can and can't be posted on a blog.
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Why the hell not? Uh, because reporting bullshit should logically lower someone's credibility? That's how journalism works.

And I find it offensive that you seriously just tried pull the old 'blog' defence.

NBtoaster said:
They heard it from multiple sources. They also contacted Square Enix who didn't clarify if it was still in development or not. The games been MIA for years. They didn't make anything up and had justification for reporting on it.
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So? Even if they trusted their sources, that doesn't mean they should be able to place the blame on them and walk away without a scratch. Kotaku put their name on the line and were wrong. Does that mean that they'll always get things wrong? No but maybe next time, they'll be more thorough and actually get things right.

FYI my argument is that all criticism is completely fair because they fucked up and that they should learn from this. If they don't learn from this, they're idiots and shouldn't be trusted.

iLLmAtlc said:
To me it's a matter of credibility. Guy claimed to have sources and he was willing to post it. So he's either an idiot for believing that source or he's making stuff up. Makes the site look really bad in my books.

If I can draw an analogy to sports there's solid rumour posting and there's garbage rumour posting. Insiders that report rumours that are not yet confirmed but turn out to be true in a few days are the ones who deserve your respect. To me, those are the only types of rumours that should be posted if you consider yourself to be a credible site.
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Exactly.
 
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Vamphuntr said:
We all knew that was the case. Kotaku simply wanted free clicks like usual...
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When I originally read Kotaku's post I was wondering what or who their source was. I suspected them of such tactics just for clicks but I didn't think they'd go with such a big named title.

Shame on you. No wonder Sayid, err... Crecente couldn't stand being apart of that machine anymore.
 
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LiquidSolid said:
Why the hell not? Uh, because reporting bullshit should logically lower someone's credibility? That's how journalism works.
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If it's a rumor it may or may not be true. If it's clearly labeled as a rumor and ends up not being true it's not Kotaku's fault you're upset.
 
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patsu

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Valnen said:
If it's a rumor it may or may not be true. If it's clearly labeled as a rumor and ends up not being true it's not Kotaku's fault you're upset.
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Perhaps. But if they publish "too many" low quality rumors, their brand will devalue. Reading Gaf, it seems to indicate that they are already there.
 
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ED Cantu

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Persona86 said:
80%. For 4 reasons:
1. It's about time

2. Wada said he's been going to regular meetings, which shows that they are working hard on the game.

3. What's a better time to show off than TGS?

4. Rumours of TGS appearance.
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Yes I agree, hopefully the will show something.

jiggle said:
video for the event
playable demo for tgs :)
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This would be even better, but of what event are you talking about?
 
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Valnen said:
If it's a rumor it may or may not be true. If it's clearly labeled as a rumor and ends up not being true it's not Kotaku's fault you're upset.
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Big sites usually don't report such big rumours unless they are quite sure about it. What this shows is that Kotaku's sources are untrustworthy which lowers their credibility a lot. You can't just put rumour in a title and post things that turns out to be false repeatedly.
 
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patsu

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Valnen said:
Or maybe people just need to learn what the word "rumor" means.
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They already know what "rumors" mean. The problem is the rumors become "lies" if they are proven false. And sites that publicize/report too many false rumors will devalue in the readers' eyes.

Plus there is no reason why sites need to earn $$$ based on forwarding rumors instead of better reporting. It's not that hard right ?
 
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Lol as if there was any doubt.

Now let's see if IGN put as much effort in to telling people the game is not cancelled. They went all out in informing the world the game was pretty much dead.
 
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Not gonna lie, Japanese RPGs have been dead to me for years, but I cannot wait to play this amazing looking game. The theme, visuals, combat system, music, everything is incredible looking.

Truly a FF for the next-gen.
 
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Persona86

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M_Night said:
Lol as if there was any doubt.

Now let's see if IGN put as much effort in to telling people the game is not cancelled. They went all out in informing the world the game was pretty much dead.
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Yeah will they even update on the story lol.

Off topic fan comment but the last time they updated on Yakuza 5 news was November 22 2011 lol. Guess they don't like the Yakuza series.
 
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Valnen said:
If it's a rumor it may or may not be true. If it's clearly labeled as a rumor and ends up not being true it's not Kotaku's fault you're upset.
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If Fox News reports a rumour, are you going to believe it? I sure as hell don't, because they report complete bullshit all the time and have no credibility. If Al Jazeera reports a rumour though, I'm far more likely to believe it because they have far higher journalistic standards and I actually trust them. That's the point. Reporting something is pointless if you're so unreliable no-one believes you.
 
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ED Cantu said:
Oh that one, I already knew about this event but I wasn't considering it because it seems to be more about the "Lightning Saga" part of FF XIII (XIII-2 and possibly XIII-3).

It would be odd to have a Versus XII trailer there if that's the case, but who knows maybe they'll show something there.
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sounds like that's just 1 stage event out of a 3 days event
hoping, no, expecting they have more planned than that
their future FF lineup is conspicuously empty
 
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Arklite

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Yeah, I feel Square would've sooner released Versus in a half-assed state in an attempt to at least make some money back rather than killing the whole thing after that much dev time.

Hype and pretty CG alone could've sold it. Likewise with the The Last Guardian, though I know many people feel like writing that one off.
 
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AAK said:
Kotaku always listed it as a rumor though. It was IGN that listed it as a fact and report.
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Lol, I don't think people really expect anything better from IGN.


Shining Sunshine said:
Wada says something that makes me like him?

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Right? This right here is the biggest shocker to come outta this whole mess.
 
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Serious question why does gaf have such a hard on for hd towns although you barely spend any time in them in any ff game? Not counting "bases" FFX was pretty well received it being a lot of peoples favorite FF game yet it really didn't have "towns"
 
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QisTopTier said:
Serious question why does gaf have such a hard on for hd towns although you barely spend any time in them in any ff game? Not counting "bases"
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It was a big problem in FFXIII because you just keep going from one corridor to another, but no one really complained about that in FFXIII-2 due to plenty of other distractions.

I think it makes the world more immersive and believable, no other reason for it.
 
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