TheBaronOfNA
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I don't "worship" him, I greatly respect him for his contributions to gaming, such as creating a whole new style of game with DMC or continual quality output and so on.
use your brain
To bad he doesn't respect others.
I don't "worship" him, I greatly respect him for his contributions to gaming, such as creating a whole new style of game with DMC or continual quality output and so on.
use your brain
Words can both destroy and built.
Like I said way back, is his opinion and I agree with him in the Rip Off part but is annoying calling it in a negative way that casually, specially from a developer
Like I mentioned, not so different from the Phil Fish drama
But is not about sales (at least to me) is about intend and why I dislike Kamiya dismissal. They are trying to refine something, is not that different from waht he did in Bayonetta from DMC (even if it is "his"game)
The game is fun. Fun games draw in fans.Cannot believe people and the industry are taking this game seriously and then arguing about it. It baffles me that there's a genuine interest in this. I'm not trying to be condescending, but when I first saw footage at E3 I honest to god thought it was a gag.
To bad he doesn't respect others.
To bad he doesn't respect others.
I agree with that, but I don't think that it is trying to accomplish this by being "Just a ripoff." It really has actively differentiated itself, it has its own creative elements. Whether or not they are good differences overall is arguable, but I think a reasonable person would be able to find at least a couple of things about PS All-Stars that are improvements.We disagree. I think it wants to be to Playstation what Smash is to Nintendo. I think thats clear. What are you thinking?
I find that rather hypocritical, I wouldn't call Bayonetta a giant leap from DMC by any stretch.
I find that rather hypocritical, I wouldn't call Bayonetta a giant leap from DMC by any stretch.
I find that rather hypocritical, I wouldn't call Bayonetta a giant leap from DMC by any stretch. But who cares if it's a rip off, it's bringing a genre to a playerbase that probably hasn't touched it before - they can try to innovate once people have actually experienced that sort of game.
I agree with that, but I don't think that it is trying to accomplish this by being "Just a ripoff." It really has actively differentiated itself, it has its own creative elements. Whether or not they are good differences overall is arguable, but I think a reasonable person would be able to find at least a couple of things about PS All-Stars that are improvements.
So you're gonna keep buying soulless and unoriginal stuff just so people can keep their jobs?
DMC is his own creation. And I disagree.
We disagree. I think it wants to be to Playstation what Smash is to Nintendo. I think thats clear. What are you thinking?
You can't rip off yourself so there is no way he is being hypocritical.
Er that's my point, he calls out other devs for lack of creative integrity yet Bayonetta is essentially the same game wit ha different coat of paint.
Er that's my point, he calls out other devs for lack of creative integrity yet Bayonetta is essentially the same game wit ha different coat of paint.
Er that's my point, he calls out other devs for lack of creative integrity yet Bayonetta is essentially the same game wit ha different coat of paint.
I wouldn't disagree with what you said there^, but that's not what you originally said.
PS All Stars does not want to be Smash.
Where the hell did I mention 'rip-off'?
Except it isn't. It's the same genre (which he created with DMC) and same formula, but taken to the next level.
Er that's my point, he calls out other devs for lack of creative integrity yet Bayonetta is essentially the same game wit ha different coat of paint.
Indeed use your brain,and get your own opinion. Only insecure people care what otherS think of sonethink they like. I am getting this game, why shoukd i care what some kamiya dude thinks?I don't "worship" him, I greatly respect him for his contributions to gaming, such as creating a whole new style of game with DMC or continual quality output and so on.
use your brain
Absolutely not.Er that's my point, he calls out other devs for lack of creative integrity yet Bayonetta is essentially the same game wit ha different coat of paint.
You are not making any sense. He can't make DMC anymore, it's a Capcom property, he created Bayonetta to keep working on his original idea.
I am not sure why you (or others) are holding developers to some sort of higher standard.
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion.
His is uninformed because he hasn't played the game and/or does not understand its deeper mechanics.
On a base level though he is not wrong and as an artist (which he is)
it is easy to see why rip-offs would be a negative thing from his point of view. For the average person though it's fine (hence why "clones" of games do well).
Isn't that the same think PSA fans are saying in this thread?You need to play both Bayonetta and Devil May Cry before you say something like that.
No, it would potentially make a damn fine gameMy game would be inspired by the:
-Universal Lore Aspect of Mass Effect
-Combat of Devil May Cry
-The Cinematic Flair of Ninja Gaiden/DOA
-The Open World elements of GTA
-Wild Creature Mechanic of Pokemon
-The Set Pieces of God of War
-Control System of Dragons Dogma (The triggers/shoulder buttons change the face button variables)
-Story Scale of Halo (Space Opera type theme)
Would that make it a ripoff?
Er that's my point, he calls out other devs for lack of creative integrity yet Bayonetta is essentially the same game wit ha different coat of paint.
Just make sure it doesn't look similar to anything.My game would be inspired by the:
-Universal Lore Aspect of Mass Effect
-Combat of Devil May Cry
-The Cinematic Flair of Ninja Gaiden/DOA
-The Open World elements of GTA
-Wild Creature Mechanic of Pokemon
-The Set Pieces of God of War
-Control System of Dragons Dogma (The triggers/shoulder buttons change the face button variables)
-Story Scale of Halo (Space Opera type theme)
Would that make it a ripoff?
No, it would potentially make a damn fine game
There is no working on it. It's the same game with prettier graphics and again, different characters. It was not expanded upon at all.
What about God of War? Or any other hack n' slash game?
Isn't that the same think PSA fans are saying in this thread?
I wonder how clockwork and superbot feel about their morals being called into question?
I dunno what you refer to high standard but I probably get annoyed If I was a developer and Miyamoto said casually that my studio was a creative bankrupt because he saw 5 minutes of gameplay.
And I'm allowed to criticize that opinion.
So that makes it right to give a misinformed opinion?
So actually you give him a high standard.
But he is not an avarage person, even for your standards. He should know better.
All of his games are pretty much DMC with a different coat of paint.
Viewtiful Joe is basically DMC in 2D.
Bayonetta is basically DMC after he couldn't make DMC anymore.
Project P-100 is basically DMC with an overhead camera and the lots of dudes gimmick.
The only exception is Okami, which, as has been established many times in this thread, is a blatant Zelda ripoff.
So it's kinda funny for him to call out anyone else for creative bankruptsy.
All of his games are pretty much DMC with a different coat of paint.
Viewtiful Joe is basically DMC in 2D.
Bayonetta is basically DMC after he couldn't make DMC anymore.
Project P-100 is basically DMC with an overhead camera and the lots of dudes gimmick.
The only exception is Okami, which, as has been established many times in this thread, is a blatant Zelda ripoff.
So it's kinda funny for him to call out anyone else for creative bankruptsy.
Indeed. Clearly he keeps recycling DMC because in DMC you hit stuff with things and in his other games you hit other stuff with things too.Wow, just wow. I used to like your posts, but this is incredible.
I'll let you expand upon that.
You make no sense, first you exercise your right to criticize his opinion, then state he should know better than to exercice his right to express his? wtf?
Please. It's the aesthetics, physics, concept, controls. It has game rules differences, sure. But it's a rip off.
It can be fun, but that doesn't change the fact. The problem is with people that can not admit to that.
Misinformed opinion. And not, I didn't say he can't said, I just said that I can call bull
I happen to think he is spot on. And you are being hypocritical. You said he should know better, as if there is such a thing as a wrong opinion.
DMC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?fmt=18&gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=vFuPpH8X7Rw
Bayonetta:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDFTwy5LeA
In short, while they are similar (as Bayonetta is an evolution from DMC), Bayonetta is much more fast paced and combo-focused when compared to DMC which is much more hack and slashy. That really is "in short" though.