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[patsu]

Isn't that at least the second run of PS1 games hitting PS Certified? Crash Bandicoot was in the first group over a year ago.
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/1...ash-bandicoot-sims-3-pre-installed-at-launch/

From what I understand, PS Certified releases require a separate submission from publishers than regular PSN PS1 Classics, and they require a separate purchase. The slow roll-out of PS1 games on PS Certified is most likely due to excruciatingly slow sales and all the extra publisher work required.

If Sony's using the same emulation core in PS Certified devices and the Vita, the above suggests they had a retail ready emulator a year before the Vita launched in the US. Granted, there's another 1000 games or so they needed to test in Japan and the PSP emulation to work on too, but it seems strange that a year later they still don't have relatively simple features on the Vita emulator shown at E3, such as analog input.

Yes, it's the second batch.

Cellphones and pads don't have analog input, so perhaps they were focusing on existing button input vs touch input first. If they run well on other mobile devices, they should run well on Vita also. Analog input can be added in after these are done.

From planning perspective, I would put PSOne for other platform ahead of Vita too, since Vita can play PSP and Vita games already.

Then again, it's just my uneducated guess.

All in all, Vita is an interesting Sony gizmo in this age. Its "off-the-shelf" parts and more traditional architecture makes cross-work with other mobile devices quite possible. According to their CTO, the VitaOS is also said to be "extensible" to other platform and use. It would not be surprising to me that they have tried some cross-work between Vita and other devices.

 

[Raoh]

Not sure if this has been covered/asked.


But I should be able to play all my PSOne games I got free from PS+ like the resident evil series, syphon filter series etc right?

 

[slaughterking]

Apparently not all PSone games will be playable when the new firmware hits, so your games wont necessarily work from the beginning.

 

[Bboy AJ]

Just a couple more days!

 

[CorrisD]

Not sure if this has been covered/asked.


But I should be able to play all my PSOne games I got free from PS+ like the resident evil series, syphon filter series etc right?

As far as I know we have no idea at this point what games we will be able to play besides that it will be around 100 titles and the ones that were at E3.

 

[Speedymanic]

Not sure if this has been covered/asked.


But I should be able to play all my PSOne games I got free from PS+ like the resident evil series, syphon filter series etc right?

RE2 is confirmed to work, no mention of the other RE titles.

Hopefully we'll get a list of the 100+ compatible games tomorrow/early Tuesday morn.

 

[DMeisterJ]

I wonder if the FW update is Tuesday morning, or Tuesday after the store update. Or if the compatible games will work after the FW update or the store update.

I hope we don't have to DL them again, since I just did it today because I didn't have any of the install bubbles on my PS3.

 

[chickdigger802]

how are L2-R2 mapped? rear touch?

 

[GotchaForce]

As far as I know we have no idea at this point what games we will be able to play besides that it will be around 100 titles and the ones that were at E3.

What were the ones at E3?

I hope Symphony of the Night and FF7-9 are day one.

Also, went through the PSN PS1 store the other day....is there even 100 titles? Seemed fairly smaller than I'd thought.

 

[8byte]

how are L2-R2 mapped? rear touch?

I believe I remember reading that this is how it would work.

 

[DMeisterJ]

What were the ones at E3?

I hope Symphony of the Night and FF7-9 are day one.

Also, went through the PSN PS1 store the other day....is there even 100 titles? Seemed fairly smaller than I'd thought.

160+

I just need the SquareSoft PSone Classics and I'm content.

 

[famousmortimer]

August.

 

[DeVeAn]

I give props to Sony though, yea should have been there day 1 but at least we don't have to re-purchase the games. LIKE SOMEBODY WE KNOW! (Nintendo)

 

[Raoh]

Just a couple more days!

As far as I know we have no idea at this point what games we will be able to play besides that it will be around 100 titles and the ones that were at E3.

Thank you.

Something to look forward to. RE2 makes me rest easy, I wouldn't mind searching for weapons during my train ride to work.

The best part about my VITA is working late nights at work, 2pm-10pm/4pm-~, a few of those ps1 classics with an occasional new game would be awesome.

That really is part of sony's warchest. Their ps1/ps2 library can keep gamers happy, especially with HD upgrades. I don't care about graphic updates but it comes with frame rate fixes. Hopefully.

Ability to switch the dpad to the right analog stick/face buttons makes a big difference.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Cmon Konami put Suikoden 2 up on the store!

 

[Synless]

Cmon Konami put Suikoden 2 up on the store!

They are never going to do it, and I hate then for it. I own Suikoden 1, 3-5 and Tiekres (or however it's spelt) I have never played 2.

 

[B.K.]

I wish Bandai Namco would put Tales of Destiny and Tales of Eternia on the PSN.

 

[Dragon]

They are never going to do it, and I hate then for it. I own Suikoden 1, 3-5 and Tiekres (or however it's spelt) I have never played 2.

Not playing 2 makes me sad. 2 is so so good. I paid a buttload a few years ago to grab a copy off of ebay and then converted it for PSP. It's a top five PS1 game for me.

 

[KalBalboa]

how are L2-R2 mapped? rear touch?

You were able to map PSone controls to virtually any configuration you wanted on a PSP, but I know the rear touch is at least one option for Vita.

 

[KalBalboa]

Thank you.

Something to look forward to. RE2 makes me rest easy, I wouldn't mind searching for weapons during my train ride to work.

The best part about my VITA is working late nights at work, 2pm-10pm/4pm-~, a few of those ps1 classics with an occasional new game would be awesome.

That really is part of sony's warchest. Their ps1/ps2 library can keep gamers happy, especially with HD upgrades. I don't care about graphic updates but it comes with frame rate fixes. Hopefully.

Ability to switch the dpad to the right analog stick/face buttons makes a big difference.

I do wonder if we'll see PS2 emulation on Vita. I've been on an HD classic kick lately (just finished Sly Cooper one and started Jak tonight) and would love to see more games available.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

They are never going to do it, and I hate then for it. I own Suikoden 1, 3-5 and Tiekres (or however it's spelt) I have never played 2.

The worst part about is the first one is on the store and you able to save the end game and transfer it to 2

 

[DidntKnowJack]

I own Suikoden 1, 3-5 and Tiekres (or however it's spelt) I have never played 2.

Same for me. The one game I don't have and it happens to be the the most expensive in the series.

 

[NZNova]

Does this mean that my copy of Final Fantasy VII that I own on PSN already is going to start working on the Vita when 1.80 hits? Or am I going to have to buy this shit again? As long as my existing stuff works, this gets a thumbs up from me.

 

[famousmortimer]

Does this mean that my copy of Final Fantasy VII that I own on PSN already is going to start working on the Vita when 1.80 hits? Or am I going to have to buy this shit again? As long as my existing stuff works, this gets a thumbs up from me.

Existing stuff works. Once it becomes compatible.


They said about 100 of the 160 or so games will be working as of tuesday. The rest will be rolled out (slowly... if the psp support is any indication).


But, just to reiterate, you do not have to rebuy your PSone games. Everything you bought on the ps3, psp, got for free with PS+... it will all work on the Vita. Eventually.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

Existing stuff works. Once it becomes compatible.


They said about 100 of the 160 or so games will be working as of tuesday. The rest will be rolled out (slowly... if the psp support is any indication).


But, just to reiterate, you do not have to rebuy your PSone games. Everything you bought on the ps3, psp, got for free with PS+... it will all work on the Vita. Eventually.

Good stuff. Looking forward to playing Tomba!

 

[NZNova]

Existing stuff works. Once it becomes compatible.


They said about 100 of the 160 or so games will be working as of tuesday. The rest will be rolled out (slowly... if the psp support is any indication).


But, just to reiterate, you do not have to rebuy your PSone games. Everything you bought on the ps3, psp, got for free with PS+... it will all work on the Vita. Eventually.

Sweet deal. I can get on board with this.

 

[Pikma]

If I get FFIX for PS3 now, will I be able to play it once I get a Vita (After they become available obviously), or will I have to re-buy it?

 

[KalBalboa]

My biggest concern is game saves.

Can we copy existing saves over, can we interchange them like the PSP and PS3 did, etc.

 

[SixStringPsycho]

If I get FFIX for PS3 now, will I be able to play it once I get a Vita (After they become available obviously), or will I have to re-buy it?

You don't have to re-buy it. Its attached to your account, thus being able to redownload on the Vita for FREE

 

[teepo]

the only concern i have is whether R-Type Delta will run or not

 

[teiresias]

I'm really thinking of playing through Chrono Trigger on my SNES in the next few weeks in anticipation of Chrono Cross being supported!!

 

[8byte]

I'm really curious to see how save file management will work.

 

[NZNova]

With this in place, all that's missing is a way to transfer old PSP disc games over...

 

[Kyon]

With this in place, all that's missing is a way to transfer old PSP disc games over...

There is

 

[brainpann]

With this in place, all that's missing is a way to transfer old PSP disc games over...

Yeah, that'd be nice....that sorta thing only happens in fairyland, or Japan. :^/

 

[mollipen]

They are never going to do it, and I hate then for it. I own Suikoden 1, 3-5 and Tiekres (or however it's spelt) I have never played 2.

I was told that there is a specific reason why we'll never see Suikoden 2 go up, but that person wouldn't tell me what that reason was.

 

[NZNova]

There is

A legit way? Care to elaborate?

 

[sensui-tomo]

going to guess that one of the games we wont be able to play immediately will probably be chrono cross(remember that had some issues on the psp for the longest time... wish there was a way for jade cocoon to be played without freezing in the forest)

 

[Agent X]

Is PS1 classic support still running through the PSP emulator after all?

This was a topic that was discussed previously in this thread a few months ago, which had a link to this video from E3. Take a close look at the warning message that appears on the Vita screen around the 0:28 mark.

I figured that this might be a temporary placeholder just for the E3 show, and that when the time came they'd eventually deliver true native emulation of PS1 on the Vita.

However, I saw this article from The Verge about the Vita, which was linked to from a post on PlayStation.Blog. Contained in the Verge article is this very interesting quote (note the bolded part):

Another way Sony is trying to add content quickly to the Vita is through the introduction of PSone Classics support. Starting next week, the Vita will start supporting some original PlayStation games.

Yoshida said the company originally had hoped to launch the Vita with PSone support, but that ultimately they would have had to delay the portable release to do so.

"I hoped it could have been earlier," he said.

The holdup was that PSone support is built on top of PlayStation Portable support, which the engineers had to get working first, he said.

Please, don't tell me we've been waiting all of these months and then Sony decided to stick with using the "emulator in an emulator" as the final outcome. I'm going to be very disappointed if that is the case. We'll find out for sure within the next few days.

 

[olimpia84]

So the update is this Tuesday right? My RE2 is ready

 

[Bboy AJ]

Do we get PS+ support, too?

 

[Kokonoe]

Looks like still owning a PSP is the best option for me still.

 

[KalBalboa]

Do we get PS+ support, too?

As far as PSone games courtesy of Plus? I bet we will, considering my Plus Minis work fine.

 

[Skyzard]

Is PS1 classic support still running through the PSP emulator after all?

This was a topic that was discussed previously in this thread a few months ago, which had a link to this video from E3. Take a close look at the warning message that appears on the Vita screen around the 0:28 mark.

I figured that this might be a temporary placeholder just for the E3 show, and that when the time came they'd eventually deliver true native emulation of PS1 on the Vita.

However, I saw this article from The Verge about the Vita, which was linked to from a post on PlayStation.Blog. Contained in the Verge article is this very interesting quote (note the bolded part):



Please, don't tell me we've been waiting all of these months and then Sony decided to stick with using the "emulator in an emulator" as the final outcome. I'm going to be very disappointed if that is the case. We'll find out for sure within the next few days.

Was the PSP not good enough for PS1 emulation? Surely they would have it running improved and optimised for the vita.

 

[Pikma]

Awesome then, I'll try to get a Vita before the year ends.

 

[androvsky]

Is PS1 classic support still running through the PSP emulator after all?

This was a topic that was discussed previously in this thread a few months ago, which had a link to this video from E3. Take a close look at the warning message that appears on the Vita screen around the 0:28 mark.

I figured that this might be a temporary placeholder just for the E3 show, and that when the time came they'd eventually deliver true native emulation of PS1 on the Vita.

However, I saw this article from The Verge about the Vita, which was linked to from a post on PlayStation.Blog. Contained in the Verge article is this very interesting quote (note the bolded part):

Please, don't tell me we've been waiting all of these months and then Sony decided to stick with using the "emulator in an emulator" as the final outcome. I'm going to be very disappointed if that is the case. We'll find out for sure within the next few days.

I noticed that too, I'm pretending they meant the PSP emulator was a higher priority and needed to be finished first, despite the relatively clear "on top of" phrasing. ;_;

 

[Bboy AJ]

As far as PSone games courtesy of Plus? I bet we will, considering my Plus Minis work fine.

So nothing confirmed, then? Hmm, I hope we get it.

 

[KalBalboa]

Was the PSP not good enough for PS1 emulation? Surely they would have it running improved and optimised for the vita.

Haven't we seen the rear touch option for L2/R2? And, I mean, the second analog stick being used?

It'd have to be an improved emulator, even if it's an enhanced version of the PSP one.

 

[graywolf323]

I was told that there is a specific reason why we'll never see Suikoden 2 go up, but that person wouldn't tell me what that reason was.

I say we torture this person

 

[Laguna X]

I was told that there is a specific reason why we'll never see Suikoden 2 go up, but that person wouldn't tell me what that reason was.

Suikoden 2 not being reissued is a crime against humanity. I feel that Konami should be brought up on charges.