Not when pc gpus just out raw power the consoles.
The mere fact that there is a pc gpu at whatever the cost that is 3 or more times as powerful as a new console is quite reveling in itself.
No such thing existed in a previous gen.
This means one thing consoles will get outdated super fast this gen. Gaming pcs will be 10x more powerful within a year or 2.
Hmm... don't know why but "only" a 3x gap between the fastest single gpu in the world and the gpu of a presumably $500 console, doesn't seem THAT bad at all.
You think that we are going to have GPU's with 18.4TFLOPS in a year or 2? really?
Doesnt seem like THAT big of a difference if you think about it like that.
How would NVIDIA know the exact specs of the 720?
The graphics the PS4 is delivering in the demos shown so far indicate that people are more than satisfied with what they're going to get. Although everybody should always contextualize all of the information. The chart shown indicates that last generation the kind of gap between the consoles and top of the range PCs didn't reach the 2-3x level until 2-3 years after the 360 launched, while it's already there on D-Day -150 for this generation. PC gamers have been complaining about consoles holding them back for several years now, and if this chart is any indication, that situation will be worse this time around.
Listen very carefully dude.
PS4 has 8 GB DDR5 RAM.
Titan has 6 GB DDR5 GPU RAM.
If you do not know the difference then don't say shit
True, though I secretly hope that the disparity between consoles and pcs will reach somekind of critical mass and explode into a plethora of "crysis1-esque" pc exclusives that are made from the ground up for very high end hardware.
How would NVIDIA know the exact specs of the 720?
It's not. The chart assumes that Xenos was faster than desktop GPUs of that time and it was clearly not the case, the gaps are similar.The graphics the PS4 is delivering in the demos shown so far indicate that people are more than satisfied with what they're going to get. Although everybody should always contextualize all of the information. The chart shown indicates that last generation the kind of gap between the consoles and top of the range PCs didn't reach the 2-3x level until 2-3 years after the 360 launched, while it's already there on D-Day -150 for this generation. PC gamers have been complaining about consoles holding them back for several years now, and if this chart is any indication, that situation will be worse this time around.
This just makes me want a Titan.
Hmm... don't know why but "only" a 3x gap between the fastest single gpu in the world and the gpu of a presumably $500 console, doesn't seem THAT bad at all.
Oh they're $1,500.00 AUD
haha bye.
8GB GDDR5. the most important thing for console hardware according to Sony fans.
Premium pricing, baby! That's how it goes.So, Titan is ~6x the cost for only ~3x the power?
Correct. Nvidia has an agendaI thought we have got past the notion that a game on a console and game on a pc run at the same performance ratio.
you will get a lot more performance out of a console with the same hardware any day of the week.
These comparisons are silly.
I don't think the Titan has 8gb of GDDR5 ram though guys...
AlmostDoes that mean the PS4 will be $333.34?
GPU FLOPS he most important thing hardware according to PC fans
It's not. The chart assumes that Xenos was faster than desktop GPUs of that time and it was clearly not the case, the gaps are similar.
GPU FLOPS he most important thing hardware according to PC fans
Oh god, here we go again.
Let me pre-cap the thread:
- salty
- console optimization
- to the metal
- carmack
- overhead
- $3000 PCs
Did I miss anything?
Weren't there 7800s around in 2005?What's your basis for that statement? As a PC gamer who owned an ATI card that year I think you're completely wrong, as Xenos was actually more powerful than the X1800 XT in a number of important ways.
Xenos was using unified shaders at a time when ATI's desktop cards were still on individualized pixel and vertex shaders, and had more raw shading power than the high-end cards of 2005. It also had superior framebuffer bandwidth vs those cards. At extremely high resolutions the fillrates of the desktop cards would catch up, but Xenos was an extremely powerful console card for its time.
The PS4's card doesn't have any bleeding edge tech that its desktop peers lack, and appears to be very similar to a mid-range 2012 AMD desktop card. And the next-gen Xbox's card is weaker yet.
NVidia is correct in asserting that this generation is starting with a larger performance deficit than the 360/PS3 did vs desktops of their day. Both companies (especially Microsoft) have aimed much lower than they did at the start of last gen as they're less willing to take a large hardware loss upfront early in the generation.
It is, as the ultimate yardstick of performance. As for RAM, you're mainly concerned with having enough of it so as to not cripple your performance.GPU FLOPS he most important thing hardware according to PC fans
So, Titan is ~6x the cost for only ~3x the power?
Weren't there 7800s around in 2005?
PS4 GPU 3x less powerful than Titan
It is far more important than the amount of VRAM in most cases!
Also 3x cheaper.
This seems to me to be good news for PC gaming. Play ports of great looking console games and you won't even need these GPUs which draw ridiculous amounts of power...Call me when they they get the draw back in reasonable figures with these high end gpus.
- Why are the console jumps not perfectly vertical? I didn't know consoles slowly increased in power?
Nobody knows the ps4s price yet. It's also unlikely judging by Sonys love of overpricing its hardware.
No this is horrible news for pc gaming. It means pc games will be gimped by the weak consoles sooner this gen. This is disappointing as it holds gaming in general back.
Also 3x cheaper.
Nobody knows the ps4s price yet. It's also unlikely judging by Sonys love of overpricing its hardware.
Premium pricing, baby! That's how it goes.