Sony is the next to "fuck up" along with Microsoft. EA didn't just drop the online pass on all future titles because only one of the next gen systems was implementing it at the hardware level. PS4 is next. Have fun people.
So still no lending or renting.
So there's no point to even have the game discs.
Just get rid of them MS.
Can games run without being installed?
So there's no point to even have the game discs.
Just get rid of them MS.
This IS NOT like now... do you know to read?
I can lend a game to a friend today and he can play whenever he want.
With this system, that's impossible.
Not mentioning selling the game... very confussing...
Can games run without being installed?
yeah. I don't think my friends are generous enough to give me their profile details unwatched..lol
No? Once you're in your account on your friend's Xbox you'd be able to install the game using the disc.
what if i share my xbox with my brother? we have 2 accounts
I guess you haven't been in the always online threads. A lot of people still have 3 Mbit DSL. They don't want to play Tuesday releases on Friday when they finish downloading.
They'd probably like to, but high-speed broadband isn't nearly widespread enough to make that feasible.
So, they'd have to remain signed into your account to play the game? Wow, that's even more ridiculous.
Xbox One has to be online once every 24h if you want to play a single player game - Steam can be in offline mode indefinitely.
But can you leave the game at your friend and allow him to play it?
Just like every other DD system on the planet.
If he stays logged in your account.But can you leave the game at your friend and allow him to play it?
Just like every other DD system on the planet.
Same thing that we have now.
So basically if I want to loan my friend a game I have to loan them all my games? I assume I can't have my account signed in to two different systems at the same time.
Yup, except with retail discs...
Except we are talking about physical discs
So basically if I want to loan my friend a game I have to loan them all my games? I assume I can't have my account signed in to two different systems at the same time.
So this would be perfectly fine if discs weren't sold at all? I said it before, but the discs are just dummies to store game data and initially activate the game, like Steam games sold in retail. Everything else is entirely digital otherwise.
Lol, you'll have to upload your profile everywhere you go. Lets bring back the VMU!
what if i share my xbox with my brother? we have 2 accounts
What do you think?
Not considering the price difference between console games and PC games. People are only okay with Steam because of the amazing prices. Unless you think Microsoft are going to start doing their own massive sales and selling games for five bucks, it's an entirely different situation to digital distribution on the PC.So this would be perfectly fine if discs weren't sold at all?
So basically Steam.
I bought Dishonored on PC as a retail disc. I'm actually a bit at a loss if any major PC release had a retail disc that wasn't basically a DRM-platform launcher (uplay, origin, steam, gfwl).You're thinking XBLA and other digital games.
We're talking about retail discs.
So there's no point to even have the game discs.
Just get rid of them MS.
So the system works EXACTLY as it does now, like I was hoping. Perfect.
Pretty much.
What an absolute disaster. I knew MS was completely out of touch with their customers, but they really don't have a clue do they?
what if i share my xbox with my brother? we have 2 accounts
No, Phil said that there is no difference on Xbox One between installing via a disc or online and both will be treated as if it was downloaded. Just like with online titles today, you can install it on any console but the original buyer needs to be online to play it. To remove that restriction, the game needs to be bought again on that console -- just like today. Nobody has ever referred to that as a "pre-owned fee" in the current ecosystem.
This is the statment Major was clarifying. It's a specific situation that hints if I sold you a physical copy of a game second hand game rather than just wanted to play over a friend's house for a few hours, you'd have to pay full price to actually use the game. That doesn't exist in "the current ecosystem" unless you count online passes, but even those aren't the full price of the game.But what if you want to bring a game disc to a friend's house and play there? You'll have to pay a fee—and not just some sort of activation fee, but the actual price of that game—in order to use a game's code on a friend's account. Think of it like a new game, Harrison said.
"The bits that are on that disc, you can give it to your friend and they can install it on an Xbox One," he said. "They would then have to purchase the right to play that game through Xbox Live."
"They would be paying the same price we paid, or less?" we asked.
"Let’s assume it’s a new game, so the answer is yes, it will be the same price," Harrison said.
So the system works EXACTLY as it does now, like I was hoping. Perfect.