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British vs American flag: which one is the bigger symbol?

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These ones are superior.

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mavs

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UK flag is a bigger fashion symbol even in the states. Some people here get weird about wearing the flag.
 
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Deleted member 1235

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British flag looks more fashion-y

American flag has the same impact as a neon sign in a hooker district. It's just so overused it's ridiculous.
 

Chuckie

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itxaka

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Brits has more historical significance. American has more actual significance.

I reckon they are at the same level moreless. No way there is anyone in the world that doesn't recognize both of them.
 
I'm British and prefer ours. The American flag is probably a bigger symbol right now, but both would look equally as terrerfiing if you saw an army marching towards you with the flag above them.
 
you seem to think the dutch and the english are a different bunch of people
i take it you mean dutch

the dutch are like englands little brother, mischievous scamps that enjoy being arse holes far too much.

Similar piratical and grim origins but just never quite made it to the really big leagues of history, if only they'd aspired to something more than acquiring and sitting on filthy lucre. Like the scots, the best they could do was trade crowns and sail in englands wake.
 

Fritz

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The colours of the US flag were taken from the Union Flag. It's an adaptation.

if your flag is red white and blue englerland owns you lol

No, I know that. I also know that the Union Jack is a fusion of English, Scottish and Irish flags. But what are the origins of the colors?


Like the admittedly ugly colors of the German flag stem from the uniforms of German civilian corps used during the liberation wars against Napoleon. To achieve a uniformed look the civilians dyed their coats black (because black would beat every other color) and use golden buttons and red finishes.
 

neorej

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the dutch are like englands little brother, mischievous scamps that enjoy being arse holes far too much.

Similar piratical and grim origins but just never quite made it to the really big leagues of history, if only they'd aspired to something more than acquiring and sitting on filthy lucre. Like the scots, the best they could do was trade crowns and sail in englands wake.

We managed to trump you for about a century on the high seas and even supply a colony of yours with the means to fight you off.

I think we're more than mischievous.
 

k_trout

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No, I know that. I also know that the Union Jack is a fusion of English, Scottish and Irish flags. But what are the origins of the colors?

this is the question i am interested in

heres my theory correct me if wrong

white = obvious ...white folks country
blue = they have a navy
red and they dont mind using that navy for killin

lol hell someone enlighten us on this

clours on flags mean something im sure

one that always got me was the nazi swastika
red white and black
judaic colours unless im mistaken...totally bizarre
 
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I think I see the United States flag more often even living in the United Kingdom. I think the concept of our flag is just much less important, and that generally you'd expect British people to express their patriotism differently than flag-waving. I do think that the Union Flag is a better design than the Stars and Stripes, though. It's among my favourite flag designs. Texas' flag is pretty awesome though, definite contender.
 

Michan

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No, I know that. I also know that the Union Jack is a fusion of English, Scottish and Irish flags. But what are the origins of the colors?

IIRC the red is of Knights Templar and the blue is of the Scottish (and then British) seas. Not sure about the white, but it appears in all three origin flags.

btw, nice avatar. I've a collie of my own. Beautiful breed.
 

RedShift

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The Team GB outfits at the Olympics with the flag on them were awesome.

I saw something in the news last year about there being a massive craze for fashion with the Union flag in in Havana, except half the people wearing it didn't know what country it was from.

On the other hand there's something over the top and ridiculous about the US flag that makes it awesome. I have way more US flag merchandise than I do Union flag.
 

Chuckie

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...which was a response to my post. I was clarifying the origin.

Yes the origin of the US flag.
That other guy said that if you have red/white/blue in your flag, it must come from the British flag. Kabouter simply stated that that is not the case with the Dutch flag. The Dutch Flag is older than the English Flag so the statement
if your flag is red white and blue englerland owns you lol
is incorrect

I don't think Kabouter meant that the US flag is derived from the Dutch flag, simply that the Dutch flag isn't derived from the British one.
 

k_trout

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Yes the origin of the US flag.
That other guy said that if you have red/white/blue in your flag, it must come from the British flag. Kabouter simply stated that that is not the case with the Dutch flag. The Dutch Flag is older than the English Flag so the statement is incorrect

I don't think Kabouter meant that the US flag is derived from the Dutch flag, simply that the Dutch flag isn't derived from the British one.

edit: sorry what was here was just too boring, my apologies

maybe i should have said..the bank of england owns you
 

Suairyu

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OP asked for fashion, in which case the answer is and has been for decades the union jack. The flag lost it's institutional visual power long ago and now is just an ironic visual motif. From punk rock to street art, the union jack is a fashion icon.

The stars and stripes still very much represent straight-faced patriotism. It's the more iconic symbol, sure, but it isn't fashionable in the slightest, and likely won't be until Americas turn as the worlds largest empire comes to an end.
 

Chinner

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Then again, if you asked the world's population which flag they wanted to burn then it would probably be the American flag.
 

speedpop

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The US flag represents an ideal for the common human. A pursuit of independence and democracy. The escape from the shackles that were European monarchies and the Papacy.

The British flag represents the bridging of nations. The pursuit of colonialism and, despite the small homeland, becoming the dominant nation during the age of discovery.

Both have their negatives that I'm sure others will recite with ease.
 

Chuckie

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why does it invalidate what i said?
just because one flag predates the other

just got to know history of the bank of england and all becomes clear

maybe i should have said..the bank of england owns you

It invalidates what you said because you are making a connection between the colors of the US flag and the fact it used to be owned by England. You suggest the colors are Red/White/Blue BECAUSE the US was owned by England (which could be true) but after that you state that all countries with said colors were owned by England.

By that logic Holland was owned by England, and because of that they 'used your flag colors'.
However we already had that flag before England even had the flag. So how can our colors come from being owned by England?
 

k_trout

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It invalidates what you said because you are making a connection between the colors of the US flag and the fact it used to be owned by England. You suggest the colors are Red/White/Blue BECAUSE the US was owned by England (which could be true) but after that you state that all countries with said colors were owned by England.

By that logic Holland was owned by England, and because of that they 'used your flag colors'.
However we already had that flag before England even had the flag. So how can our colors come from being owned by England?

still dont get how it invalidates what i said

i aint talking past tense here
present
right now
today
 
The Union Jack by far.

The American Flag is dragged down a bit by all the overly-patriotic associations and/or tackiness, some that are obviously parody but still.
 

Chuckie

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still dont get how it invalidates what i said

i aint talking past tense here
present
right now
today

Ok. Present tense.

How does Great Britain( s Bank) own all countries that have Red, White and Blue in their flag.
And what does it have to do with the post you quoted that the US flag is based on British flags?
 

RedShift

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The US flag represents an ideal for the common human. A pursuit of independence and democracy. The escape from the shackles that were European monarchies and the Papacy.

The British flag represents the bridging of nations. The pursuit of colonialism and, despite the small homeland, becoming the dominant nation during the age of discovery.

Both have their negatives that I'm sure others will recite with ease.
The thing is the US flag isn't seen that way outside of the US.
 
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