Haptics =/= vibration feedback
I mean for fuck's sake, there was a whole section of the article dedicated to that.
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Haptics =/= vibration feedback
I mean for fuck's sake, there was a whole section of the article dedicated to that.
I think your best bet is to still use a 360 controller for Dark Souls and platformers.
Especially since Dark Souls does not work well with Mouse and Keyboard controls, which is what this controller is emulating.
Analog movement instead of WASD? (I'm sure any games made with controllers in mind will use it for analog movement.)
Haptic electricity field will provide you with the resistance. You finger will feel the tension that pulls you to the center of the touchpad.
None of that is going to happen. It's just good rumble.
Coffee Dog
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A lot of people in this thread have never heard of haptics, it seems.
I wanna try it incredibly badly. If this works it will kick ass,
I wanna try it incredibly badly. If this works it will kick ass,
googleplex
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Looks terrible! But I haven't touched it yet and it COULD be the best controller ever. So I'll wait until I've use one to pass judgement.
It was designed to support PC games which weren't made to support controllers at all. So yes.
Captain Tuttle
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My first impression is skepticism that could easily change though
More than half the responses in this thread don't know this.
phosphor112
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What the actual fuck?
Ludicrous Speed
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He obviously was not aware. He is used to a closed system where you don't have other options. He does not know Valve. tsk tsk
I just really doubt that any touchpad an be an adequate replacement for buttons. Those things in the middle don#t count. They are not going to be comfortable for regular game functions.
Every other controller on the market also has clickable sticks and four buttons on the back/top of the controller. That doesn't help, at all. The button placement on this thing is terrible and of use in a very limited number of genres. It really looks like it suffers from trying to make a controller equally awful for left and right handed people.
Diddy Kong
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Ick
With the buttons bound to the right functions, and the large amount of input options available, probably.
Minsc
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That or just download one from the Steam Workshop made by the community. I think it's great the controller is something new, and different. I'm curious to read actual impressions, the people who can dismiss it blindly show a real close-minded approach. I remember how much I hated dual analog when I first tried it, and it took hours to get used to. Just because you think you'd not be able to adjust to it perfectly in a few minutes doesn't mean it's not worth exploring in more depth. There's probably a ton of neat applications dual trackpads can perform we haven't though of because we haven't tried it, and I'm very curious to try a device with haptics, I read about it a lot and haven't used anything with it before.
lol perfect
Capital_Five
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I think people are having a hard time understand that this is for PC games in the living room. Playing Civ and the Sims and StarCitizen and DOTA can now be done where it never could before (at least not very well) of course there will be disadvantages to keyboard and mouse but this opens up entire GENRES of videogame in a new location. We don't need another FPS RPG platformed controller.
PreyingShark
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Read through the article.
I love it! It addresses, like, all of my complaints about modern controllers. And no, I'm not joking.
I love it! It addresses, like, all of my complaints about modern controllers. And no, I'm not joking.
Wyndstryker
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People were literally a lot more hostile in the Wiimote announcement thread. Everyone going with the whole Nintendoomed direction. Few saw it as a viable control scheme.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63251
CountAntonius
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Yeah. Seems that this is designed as a way to play PC games on a controller that you can't really play on a standard controller, but may not be the best fit for a game designed for standard console controls.
Crazier things have happened.
It was terrible
They actually thought up a pretty clever system for that one. It's obviously inferior to the PC UI but it was well done. Basically worked around shortcuts. I think the people who play SC multiplayer with shortcuts on PC would find that quite easy to adapt to.
Oh, well does it say it's not analog? Are we sure WASD isn't just being used as slang for "Left, Right, Forward, Back?" Certainly the pad is technically capable of analog control, much the same way if a game on PS3 doesn't feature run/walk with the analog stick, it's not a failure of the stick, but of the implementation within the game.
Turin Turambar
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It's clearly a controller designed around pc gaming, to bring the pc to the big tv, not to entice console gamers. Sorry fighting games fans...
This has SIX buttons on the back of the controller.
Each pad has TWO click zones.
There's your extra four inputs right there, and you can remap any of it however you want.
It's been done on the 360 controller. SC2Cress was a streamer who played on a controller. I just looked and apparently his Twitch channel is gone, so no VODs to show you. It didn't look nearly as bad as it sounds. It sure would take a lot of getting used to, though.
IncandescentPrecept
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Welcome to the Touch Generation.
Incitemaybe
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Very interesting, so far I'm happy that it's not the same old thing that people seem to never want to move away from.
I think the haptics will make all the difference in the world, if they implement it well. Most people are used to the weight in a controller, like the article points out, but true haptics is on another level.
charlequin
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I think my point of concern here would be: this is clearly a controller designed to target a specific goal (making KB/M games playable on a pad.) But we can also agree upfront that it'll be worse at that than a real KB/M setup, it's just a question of how much worse. If it's a little bit, this could really represent a pretty big shift to making these games couch-accessible. But if it's a lot....
Unless something very surprising is going on, this controller is pretty much designed to give up on digital-input games right from the start in order to achieve other design objectives.
Haptic feedback is very neat, and it'll be extremely valuable on a controller like this, but it doesn't solve the specific problem of digital input.
Unless something very surprising is going on, this controller is pretty much designed to give up on digital-input games right from the start in order to achieve other design objectives.
Haptic feedback is very neat, and it'll be extremely valuable on a controller like this, but it doesn't solve the specific problem of digital input.
Black Door
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Imagine trying to play, say, Sonic Generations or a run and gun with this. The Monster Hunter Claw would be a step up from that.
Train of Midnight
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I love you.
The Lamonster
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Looks like a prototype in the early stages of development. Meh
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