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COD: Ghosts PS4 case jacket leaked; 49GB install
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Portugeezer
Gold Member
PS4 stuff installs as you play, so it won't be that annoying.
It's never been a big deal to me, I don't mind uninstalling things I no longer play, I don't expect to have 10 50GB games I'd be playing simultaneously.
2 or 3 max, with some downloadable games.
Yep!
It's not really an issue for me personally, at least not in the short term, I just think its a bad idea to have a case where a consumer wants to spend money and can't because there's not enough space
Obviously this is a huge issue all over the place, PC, mobile, portable, but for console gaming this is a new concept
Before, the only limit on how many games you could have was the space in your house and your budget, now there is a "soft" cap of about 10 games without dealing with data management
LOL!!!!!
I mean, I'm in Canada and I have a download limit of 60GB\month...It's a fucking chance consoles aren't digital only. Just imagine:
''Yeah I finally got paid! Let's buy a game and relax.''
*Download CoD*
''Welp, no youtube or streaming for the rest of the month I guess!''
Wait you have a download limit there? 60gb per month? What the hell..what day and age are we living in? Here in the netherlands unlimited download. Unlimited...it baffles my mind that ISP are doing this.
Daffy Duck
Member
I'd imagine so, you can on both the 360 and ps3.
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
Speaking of upgrading hdds, is this one any good?
HGST Travelstar 2.5" 7200RPM HDD
I seem to remember the PS4's HDD being a 2.5." Please correct me if I'm wrong so that I don't buy somthing that I don't need
HGST Travelstar 2.5" 7200RPM HDD
I seem to remember the PS4's HDD being a 2.5." Please correct me if I'm wrong so that I don't buy somthing that I don't need
dragonbane
Member
This is for the digital version. If you play from disc I suspect that nothing needs to be installed before you can play. It will just stream the content while the installation is taking place in the background. Maybe the framerate will go down during this, but nothing more probably.
Storm Chamber
Banned
NEXT GEN IS HERE
mentallyinept
Banned
It needs to download X amount first (this depends on the game) which downloads the essential data to boot the game and start whatever level/mission/part of story, once that first bit is downloaded, you can start playing and the OS will continue downloading chunks in the background.
I meant I missed the post.
... Anyways, that's separate from what I was saying (assuming full installs are mandatory if present), I know I'll be able to play with a partial install, but like you said it'd keep installing in the background so likely in the end we'll have a complete install on most if not all games anyway.
Yeah, 60GB is atrocious even at the lowest of low tiers of highspeed. I'm in Canada as well, but I wouldn't survive without my uncapped connection. I could still go all digital if I knew that PSN/Live would give full bandwidth speed at all times. Ghosts would only take 1 1/2hrs to download, but I wouldn't trust that they'd max out.
Yeah, it manages a massive 27 MB per second. HDDs are ten times faster. And those installs will take a looooooong time. A 50 GB installs takes a minimum of 30 minutes. With lots of small files that can easily double. Those 27 MB/s are not enough to feed 8 GB of RAM operating at 174.000 MB/s.
Rock Gotti
Banned
Am I right in thinking that you are also able to download only certain parts of a game (single player/multiplayer - developer dependent) to play?
Really? Is this a shock somehow? This isn't an issue with compression or it's too big, It's next gen. The only thing behind is ISPs living in the stone age.
Here's the sizes from the previous gens:
PS1 = 0.750 GB
PS2 = 4.5 GB (single layer DVD)
PS3 = 18 GB (25 being a single layer blu-ray disc)
PS4 = 39 GB - 49 GB (Killzone and COD respectively)
Seriously... are people shocked? Did they expect games to get smaller?
Here's the sizes from the previous gens:
PS1 = 0.750 GB
PS2 = 4.5 GB (single layer DVD)
PS3 = 18 GB (25 being a single layer blu-ray disc)
PS4 = 39 GB - 49 GB (Killzone and COD respectively)
Seriously... are people shocked? Did they expect games to get smaller?
Then that'd be... stupid... why would it write data to delete it later constantly outside of the swap. There's no way they need 49Gig swap file, surely?
StoppedInTracks
Member
I've got a feeling a lot of people will be eating crow after Ghosts launch. Infinty Ward is not so no name studio, they can make good looking games.
People were to quick to call Ghosts a loser "Quake 3 engine" title methinks.
People were to quick to call Ghosts a loser "Quake 3 engine" title methinks.
shinobi602
Member
Anyone got a good link to a 1tb HDD for the PS4?
Can I just take out the 500gb already before turning the thing on and put in the 1TB? Isn't the OS on the included hdd?
Can I just take out the 500gb already before turning the thing on and put in the 1TB? Isn't the OS on the included hdd?
Yes for certain games, they showed this with Killzone Shadowfall.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B99JUBQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
StoppedInTracks
Member
So assume you buy 5 launch titles (Ghosts, Knack, Killzone, NFS and uh some other game) and all can be installed to the disk
~250 GB
Boom! 50% of your HDD gone. In launch week. For a 10 year console lifecycle.
Next-gen will be amazing, heh.
~250 GB
Boom! 50% of your HDD gone. In launch week. For a 10 year console lifecycle.
Next-gen will be amazing, heh.
mentallyinept
Banned
I posted this one (its out of stock), but there are several others if you look at the comparison chart:
Wishmaster92
Member
This needs 49GB?
Seriously?
10gb is dedicated to Riley, 14gb for his fur coat. Or so i heard.
lol
"Realistically, I think a lot of people can do this... It's just that the initial chunk of 7.5GB is quite big. I think if we would have known exactly how everything would work... I think next time around we'll try to see if we can design something that doesn't jeopardise the game which will make it even friendlier. But I think all things considered, this being launch and we've got like 2 minutes 44 from disc to the first level and no installs, I think it's already a massive improvement over previous generations."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...-shadow-fall-is-almost-40gb-it-used-to-be-290
Probably just ignorance of the subject. I'll admit I was ignorant to this. Always took it for granted and didn't pay attention. It's only grabbing my attention now because the sheere size of it is going to be problematic now.
dragonbane
Member
Reading the disc is just for verification, the game is played from the HDD. Devs want consoles to become like the PC is today. Faster access times. Seems like they get their wish granted.
People saying it deletes the data after you take out the disc are just hopeful. It won't delete shit. The 50 GB will be there until you delete the game yourself.
Hidden One
Member
Wow those damn harddrives went fast....Sonava....
Wishmaster92
Member
mangochutney
Member
Trophy hunters are gonna be pissed this gen!
They'll need a 20TB array going.
I've played 52 games this gen. It is going to be fun.
JonathanPower
Member
Yet you can play while the game installs itself; thus, the first time you are playing, the game is actually reading the data from the disc.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
I knew the games would be big, but I didn't think we would be doing full blu ray to hdd rips. I just assumed it would be partial installations. Damn.
Marvel
could never
Yup, gonna have to now.
Moral Panic
Member
PS4 is SATA2.
But at a certain point isn't it going to be impractical? Do they really expect you to install 49-60gb a game on a 500gb HDD. Just seems crazy. Maybe in the future when Internet gets much quicker and widespread in more countries streaming/cloud will be a solution?
TheRealTalker
Banned
that new PS VITA compatible icon
too goood
too goood
Hidden One
Member
Just wait till next next gen, Call of duty 20 install size will be 150GB.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Are they like putting uncompressed video and audio all over the game? Why is a CoD game this big? Hilarious.
Do you really expect every game you ever buy to stay installed. I certainly wouldn't and I don't think unreasonable to uninstall games you no longer play. I certainly don't keep my whole Steam library installed, just a handful of titles (current games + a few old standbuys I frequently go back to).
This needs 49GB?
Seriously?
Honestly, its all likely uncompressed audio. MGS4 was 37GB and thats because they left the audio uncompressed.
dragonbane
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if most games are going to run like shit during that period. Or maybe it installs level wise, meaning after you started the game and the initial loading is finished the first level is likely already installed and can be played.