Support NeoGAF

[BronsonLee]

Penello seems unconcerned, but I'm not sure the tweets make much sense, since we know the Titanfall footage is stock:

Oh my god.

This is a scam and a half. You can easily negotiate this with companies. It's done all the goddamn time. See Samsung's new SmartTV as an example. Their commercial has content so they can show off the UI.

Either Microsoft didn't think of doing that, or shit is going wonky

 

[Creaking]

Penello seems unconcerned, but I'm not sure the tweets make much sense, since we know the Titanfall footage is stock:

"We've just realized that absolutely no one at Microsoft has the license to drive this console release."

 

[Captain Pants]

Licensing issues to doing a direct feed of your company's own OS?

Exactly! We can't give ourselves permission to share this with you.

 

[Bookoo]

I wonder if they are planning to delay it.

I was watching that Sessler's video where he was talking about why they won't "review" console hardware and he said something like "I can't wait for November ::looked down/fake under breathe:: December".

Wasn't sure exactly what he may be referring to.

 

[cyberheater]

Penello seems unconcerned, but I'm not sure the tweets make much sense, since we know the Titanfall footage is stock:

Words fail me

 

[freenudemacusers]

"Representation of UI" sounds really, really bad.

 

[Vanillalite]

 

[daman824]

As long as both consoles can play (offline) games without crashing and as long as there is at least one good game available from them, it is worth releasing. Launch is not as important as delivering right after launch. Wii U was horrible at launch, but what killed it was the drought after launch.

Yep, if they don't delay, both companies will sell out through the holiday season. If they delay, they would have to push release to the worst time to release a console (right after everyone has already spent their extra money on luxury items). They should both release now. The launch hype will give out right about when the new wave of games (and probably OS fixes for MS) come out.

 

[dubq]

"@Sloane___Ranger @thevowel Dash has Beta tiles and content (like Movies & Music) we don't have rights to use. The real dash works the same."
https://www.twitter.com/albertpenello/status/394884306876637184

Still a bullshit excuse and easily remedied (either by using an internal version or by blurring out the ads in simple video editing software).

 

[Gorillaz]

Hearing PSN being ahead of XBL is like some Hell freezing over type shit.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

MS own it's UI but they have licensing issues?
People can't possibly believe this. Seriously.

I would assume he means the other logos/brands that will show up in tiles. Although I have no idea. I still want a UI video.

 

[PBY]

Oh my god.

This is a scam and a half. You can easily negotiate this with companies. It's done all the goddamn time. See Samsung's new SmartTV as an example. Their commercial has content so they can show off the UI.

Either Microsoft didn't think of doing that, or shit is going wonky

Man... at the risk of sounding like an apologist. No shit. But those licensing deals don't get done over night.

There are probably other alternatives, but licensing is a bitch and a half.

 

[BloodMoney]

Right now GAF is just a big pimple.

every tweet and rumor about the xbox one is a bunch of oil and dirt building up in that pimple

and as soon as bish or cboat squeak they will be the squeeze of doom from the fingers of information

the juicy, puss like truth will squirt and ooze out all over us.

jesus man... graphic.

 

[Raist]

Penello seems unconcerned, but I'm not sure the tweets make much sense, since we know the Titanfall footage is stock:

A representation? Licensing issues for your OWN UI?

lolz.

 

[Wishmaster92]

I wonder if Yoshida got his ass sued by licensees after showing the PS4's UI live on stage.

Somebody should tweet him this. His response makes no fucking sense.

 

[dark_prinny]

Penello seems unconcerned, but I'm not sure the tweets make much sense, since we know the Titanfall footage is stock:

 

[Slayven]

We need more low-fi gifs like this, the high quality ones are getting boring

 

[Maninthemirror]

Penello seems unconcerned, but I'm not sure the tweets make much sense, since we know the Titanfall footage is stock:

Ok. This right here is the most damning evidence of something f'up with with the OS

 

[beast786]

The driver is a beast. That is freaking skills

 

[Marvel]

Hearing PSN being ahead of XBL is like some Hell freezing over type shit.

It is kinda fucked up when you think about it, yeah.

 

[Iorv3th]

How are those 'licensing' issues going to play out when the system launches and people stream everything through twitch? Will it not allow you to stream anything but gameplay?

 

[Rich!]

Somebody should tweet him this. His response makes no fucking sense.

Yoshida: *laughs*

 

[digoutyoursoul]

jesus man... graphic.

Sounds sexy....

 

[operon]

Ms need to come out now and spill the beans for their own good before the fire gets out of control.

What if CBOATS bombshell is that Microsoft has run out of clouds

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Penello seems unconcerned, but I'm not sure the tweets make much sense, since we know the Titanfall footage is stock:

a lot of logistics and licensing issues doing a direct feed

 

[spatenfloot]

 

[daveo42]

No I didn't forget, I just put that under the unspecified "other issues" since the Sony insiders to my knowledge have not been very clear as to the nature of what the problems specifically are.

Ah ok. True on the lack of detail. Either they aren't really big issues or Sony's been good and keeping these kind of leaks tied off.

Is 300mb really a "deal" for anyone though? That's literally like 2 minutes on most modern connections..

Well it was a part of the 1.5 feature thread, so it might as well be included in the list in one way or another. Not a big deal, but I would assume some would call it a negative.

 

[Wille517]

Licensing issues to doing a direct feed of your company's own OS?

If this is true he just admitted to the UI being full of paid advertisements. And damn I get home from university and there have 3 mega threads come and go good god.

 

[Raymo]

Penello seems unconcerned, but I'm not sure the tweets make much sense, since we know the Titanfall footage is stock:

Da fuq?

Are people seriously suppose to rely on these post production UI videos until launch? Does he not realize how sketchy that is?

 

[Foffy]

Oh my god what the fuck?

 

[Rich!]

How are those 'licensing' issues going to play out when the system launches and people stream everything through twitch? Will it not allow you to stream anything but gameplay?

Hardly going to stop a smartphone camera recording the UI though, is it?

 

[Dragon]

How are those 'licensing' issues going to play out when the system launches and people stream everything through twitch? Will it not allow you to stream anything but gameplay?

I doubt it will stream dashboard stuff on either console.

 

[Pop]

I wonder if they are planning to delay it.

I was watching that Sessler's video where he was talking about why they won't "review" console hardware and he said something like "I can't wait for November ::looked down/fake under breathe:: December".

Wasn't sure exactly what he may be referring to.

Yeah I wonder too what he meant. Why even mention December haha

 

[nuttyevans]

Very happy to be waiting a year or two before getting a Bone

 

[kaching]

I didn't say it was "the same." I just said the negative shit is flooding from all corridors right now...

Is it the not the same or is flooding from all corridors without distinction? Kinda makes it sound the same.

PS4 has a had a small stream of bad news, but nothing that would cause a flood. The flooding is really coming from one quarter right now.

 

[xxracerxx]

"@Sloane___Ranger @thevowel Dash has Beta tiles and content (like Movies & Music) we don't have rights to use. The real dash works the same."
https://www.twitter.com/albertpenello/status/394884306876637184

Pic for the lazy:

Albert said they would give us a OS walkthrough weeks ago, they couldn't work out licensing in a few weeks?

 

[Feorax]

"Representation of UI" sounds really, really bad.

Between the lines;

"This is what it's supposed to do (eventually)".

 

[Whipped Spartan]

Is there a chance that this whole thing is simply a couple of devs not liking the fact that they have to work overtime during crunch or have low moral?

What better way to fuck over your employer than to 'leak' a load of shit that could be true but is actually par for the course during the run up to a hardware release. Honest question?

I just don't know what to believe anymore.

Yea Mort and CBoat are ragging haven't you read their posts. Working at EA must suck. I heard that is who employs both of them.

 

[EatinOlives]

Ok. This right here is the most damning evidence of something f'up with with the OS

It is. You can dodge questions and blurt out non-answers for so long before people catch on that something is obviously very wrong.

The system will be a mess at launch. None of this will matter 6 months from now in terms of user experience, but if all these shortcomings hit the mainstream for 6 months before then the platform will forever play second fiddle to the PS4 in terms of adoption and general reputation.

 

[CloakedPuppet]

Looking forward to hearing this week's Bombcast, Sessler stuff, Angry Gamer, etc, etc.

 

[dubq]

5 stars!

 

[ElTorro]

I doubt it will stream dashboard stuff on either console.

Capturing the HDMI-out of your own console should be trivial.

 

[Dinda]

I'm kind of dissapointed that the bird is a real person with a twitter account (ok that fits)

 

[Amir0x]

Oh. I guess these qualify as bad news.

Still nothing quite on the scale of 'the OS is broken, the network is broken, the games are barely an upgrade on current gen and won't improve much over time'.

I mean I'm not trying to scratch score cards here, just expressing my frustration that both companies seem content with letting people be surprised at the last minute by shit like this. I know stuff like the DriveClub delay is unavoidable because crunch for launch deadlines always means things are fluid until the last possible moment, but at least I wish these companies would give us guidance about the general progress. Because right now a whole host of problems could be present on both platforms with all the insider reports we've got and we'd have no way to know until the last possible moment.

That's not fair to any consumers.

You can easily negotiate this with companies. It's done all the goddamn time. See Samsung's new SmartTV as an example. Their commercial has content so they can show off the UI.

Either Microsoft didn't think of doing that, or shit is going wonky

It's just really crazy how blind we're going into these launches. I really wish they would understand the backlash will be ten times worse if people are 'surprised' by these issues, but I'm just a single poster... I hope everyone gets their shit together in time, either way.

 

[PBY]

Man... y'all are not being fair with the licensing issues here. Theres a lot of stuff being ignored, oversimplified, etc re: that issue.

But there are ways to show it if they really wanted to, ie blurring out a bunch of stuff.

 

[AstroNut325]

The driver is a beast. That is freaking skills

Ditto. I want to learn how to drive like that!

 

[Viruz]

I want to know CBOAT's info as well...

.

 

[Slayven]

Oh my god what the fuck?

My favorite console wars gif. It is from a show called Garo, power rangers but with titties.

 

[tfur]

Guys... "You don't need to know."
it's a representation...

Edit: Also, 140 characters are too hard...

 

[Skilletor]

I wonder if Yoshida got his ass sued by licensees after showing the PS4's UI live on stage.

Can you use the PS4 UI without seeing ads?

Can you use the XB1 UI without seeing ads?