psrock
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But Only one console will be able to do 4K GAMING.
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August 2016 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes September 8th
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But Only one console will be able to do 4K GAMING.
It's extremely unlikely Xbox One will sell more units than the PlayStation 4 during the same month the PlayStation 4 Pro launches.
Why do you think that MS is the only company that does PR like this...everyone does this. It's PR.
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I don't think the Pro will sell that well this year, especially when the Slim will probably drop $50 on Black Friday. 90% or probably even more of the shoppers will choose a $249 Slim over a $399 Pro. Especially since only the Slim is getting the Call of Duty bundle right?
I don't think the Pro will sell that well this year, especially when the Slim will probably drop $50 on Black Friday. 90% or probably even more of the shoppers will choose a $249 Slim over a $399 Pro. Especially since only the Slim is getting the Call of Duty bundle right?
LordRaptor
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There'll be an NPD thread next week when NPD release their report
Nightengale
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If Pro does not get a custom bundle for CoD someone somewhere fucked up.
I'd reckon we simply haven't seen it announced yet.
I think November will come down to supply of the PS4pro. No telling how many will be out there at launch.
This is why the Pro is going to sell. Not because of 4k HDR.
It'll sell because it's at a great price and launching at a great time. November, Holiday shopping season, before Black Friday.
Sony will bill it as a console that offers higher visual fidelity, smoother framerates, and extra graphical effects for $100 more.
Slim will no doubt sell the most in the PS family as that bundle is an amazing deal, but people looking to spend money this Holiday could look at the Pro as a worthwhile purchase just considering the price point.
Again I'm interested in seeing how the Slim sells because if it explodes and overtakes the One S the rest of the year it'll show that no one is buying these thing based on 4k blu ray playback.
Nightengale
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These UHD 4K BD thing is kind of reminding me of something a little bit.
You know, PS3 with BD and 360 with standard DVD.
You know, PS3 with BD and 360 with standard DVD.
They aren't spinning. What they are saying is factually true, but I think people are overstating the importance of those bullet points when it comes to people buying a console this year.
Oh, I figured they would've announced it today with the announcement of the Slim bundles.
DomsPlaying
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Solid month for MSFT, largest for Xbox brand since 5 years back? X1 S released at a time before new Sony boxes & somewhat of a lull in software.
I don't anticipate NMS being in that position for long. Might even drop out of Top 10 in September, can't see the legs being there.
Chobel
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Pro will sell >300K in November easy, that's enough to win November (assuming Sony matches the price of XB1S).
MaulerX
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Not spin. Just driving home a point. People may not like it and call it cocky whatever but it's a fact.
Nightengale
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It's genuinely hard to know what features are market movers, but it's also true Xbox has been trying to one up PS4 in its feature set marketing in the past 2 years and despite having their own set of slavo, it hasn't worked.
Example ,360 BC was a big deal MS tried to push last holiday as a differentiator vs PS4. Didn't work .
Nightengale
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I expect those bundles to be $450, so I would imagine Sony don't want to have that price tag be associated with Pro so quickly.
Have no doubts we'll get Pro COD bundles in November.
PS4 Slim will get the great deals and drive console sales the rest of the year, but yea I can see Pro selling quite well honestly. I can see Sony or retailers bundling games with Pro for $400.
Mainstream will obviously go Slim and those will be bulk of the holiday season sales.
But core gamers and upgraders will go for the Pro. Microsoft has nothing to compete with the launch of a new platform like the Pro this year.
Do you really think that Sony won't be able to sell even ''just'' 400k Pros in November on top of the Slim?
Unless Microsoft starts doing crazy things like 199$ deals for the XB1S similarly to the 2014 deals, they'll lose by a big margin.
They can grasp to the UHD drive as a selling point but the interest in that thing is close to zero in the US and absolute zero in the rest of the world at this point.
Hironically they ended up swapping places with Sony even on the Blu Ray front
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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So. While my overall prediction was low balling aa bit, I take it that so far the Xbox S hasn't had the same impact as the 360 slim?
Sony will sell as many of the PS4P this holiday season as they can manufacture.
It's a 4.2TF gaming console for $400. It is, literally, more than twice as powerful as any other gaming console that has ever existed, and the price is right.
I think people here have somehow convinced themselves that the PS4P announcement was some sort of disappointment.
And i'd argue 360 BC is more of a sales driver than 4k blu ray playback as consumers can readily take advantage of that.
With the 4k blu ray playback, you need to get a 4k Tv, and you still have to buy 4k content. It's great it's in a $300 machine, but there is still added cost to that.
Eh we'll see. Sony seems to think and want the Slim to be the main driver of sales going forward. They may be ok with offering Pro bundles for a bit more in order to meet their margins. Either way I can see regular COD Pro bundles going for $400. LE models being $450
Hmmmm, so the Pro could do 300K alone?
Hmmmm I dunno, if Microsoft goes crazy with it and does the Xbox One S 500GB + a copy of Gears of War 4 + a 4K UHD movie + $50 store coupon OR any new game free at Microsoft Stores (I assume they will do this again for Call of Duty launch) on top of a crazy marketing blitz with the UHD drive and cheap 4K TVs this Black Friday... that thing will sell like crazy, probably even exceed their best November of 1.35 million (was that just for November 2014?).
Hmmmm I dunno, if Microsoft goes crazy with it and does the Xbox One S 500GB + a copy of Gears of War 4 + a 4K UHD movie + $50 store coupon OR any new game free at Microsoft Stores (I assume they will do this again for Call of Duty launch) on top of a crazy marketing blitz with the UHD drive and cheap 4K TVs this Black Friday... that thing will sell like crazy, probably even exceed their best November of 1.35 million (was that just for November 2014?).
Don't forget to add a PS4 Pro to that Xbox One S bundle.
Oh they will, but imo I doubt it does much in getting people to buy the console.
Corpsepyre
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How did PS4 fall from No.1 to 3 like this?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Pretty sure the deals last year were better than 2014. The impact was lessened simply because it was seen less as a bargain hail Mary.
It's at the point where consumers expect these kinds of crazy Xbox one deals.
Yea this is what I'm saying, Greenberg has probably gone to the doctor for a priapism at least 5 times in the last 24 hours.
I bet he's got crazy ideas with how they can market the UHD drive and price this holiday.
ethomaz
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I read the same last November with better deals
ethomaz
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It is 2nd, no?
Rise from 3 to 2 you mean.
Corpsepyre
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Wasn't it at No.3 last month? Didn't know it was bumped up.
Chobel
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I think they lose October. MS will have a BF bundle and gears coming out. I don't see PSVR doing much to help push new console sales( I see it selling to the established base)
I know th UK is getting a COD bundle early in OCT but I wonder if that's US also
And how many of October sales are going to be deferred to November for the Pro
pharmboy044
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Can we get an "at least" number for X1?
Welfare
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At least 202k.
ethomaz
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7th if I'm not wrong.
December 2013
November 2014
December 2014
April 2015
April 2016
July 2016
August 2016
Edit - You mean this year... 3rd time.
Depends if the 3DS exists that day or not
pharmboy044
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Ah, thanks. That's a nice number to start off with.
Welfare
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Second.
202k
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Reading the comments, looks like XBO did under 300k too... Well, as said before, this is bad, seriusly bad. Is too low for a new model release, and the YOY increase is too small.
I give October to MS simply for Gears. I think BF1 sells better on PS4.
Consumers really seem to be wising up to holiday deals being so good. The PS4 price drop last year also had a disappointing effect. Then the holidays came and of course both consoles sold incredibly well. So I expect the PS4 to disappoint many in September (though it'll still sell decently), but both will explode during the holidays again.
People expected the bounce to be bigger, but I don't see why. Nothing released to give that impression. It was literally just Slim release that fueled some extra sales. Again it'll be interesting to see how the PS4 does this month in relation.
Bacause:
01. Is a new model month ( if you compare this with 360 slim, PS3 slim month is way lower)
02. Last year sold over 200k, an YOY increase like this is super low.