I keep hoping & dreaming that they add that but I always wake up and realize they havent
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I keep hoping & dreaming that they add that but I always wake up and realize they havent
It's got nothing to do with that. There has been one chopper per team since BF2 even on the 64 player maps. Just like how there are always two jets per team.
It's more to do with DICE's strange idea of what goes for balance.
But they had 2 blackhawks in BF2 right? I dont remember if they allow 2 in BF3 but I sure as hell dont think they do
OdysseusVA
Banned
Doesn't PC have the Little Bird/Z11 along with the Viper/Havoc on most large maps?
SirButterstick
Banned
yeah.... not so much for everyone. Runs fine for me and ran fine on my old card.
It's pushing some of the best lighting and motion blur and graphics I've ever seen and it runs fine for most people. Sometimes PhysX can cause problems, but that's PhysX being PhysX.
EDIT: also, playing with a structured platoon is the end game.
It's like if WoW Skipped all the crap and gave you only "End-game" content, people'd whine about no end-game.
Yeah, if PS2 ran like shit in big battles on a i7 + dual 580's, you think it's going to run better on a shitty PS4? I think you got your hopes up too high.
Yeah, if PS2 ran like shit in big battles on a i7 + dual 580's, you think it's going to run better on a shitty PS4? I think you got your hopes up too high.
They are probably going to bother to optimize it for the PS4.
I can't believe people actually use PS2 in any arguments, it was well known that the game came out half baked with completely unoptimized code.
Theory here, maybe one of the reasons Sony hasn't put too much effort into optimizing PS2 is because it is coming to PS4. If it runs buttery smooth on their console, but still struggles on PCs people will take notice.
crazepharmacist
Member
Yeah, if PS2 ran like shit in big battles on a i7 + dual 580's, you think it's going to run better on a shitty PS4? I think you got your hopes up too high.
It's not optimized for multi-threading. It literally only runs on one or two cores on PC. Smedly said they have a separate team optimizing for PS4 and its 8 cores which should yield better performance on PC.
https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/342359676014444545
https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/342359277706547200
Yeah, if PS2 ran like shit in big battles on a i7 + dual 580's, you think it's going to run better on a shitty PS4? I think you got your hopes up too high.
They're multi-core support isnt that great right now. They now have a dedicated team working specifically on multi-core support for the PS4 and that will transfer into better performance for PCs. The devs have stated this.
Nah, most people know, or knew, this already but then again there are 2000 players fighting each other and sometimes 300+ just in 1 base/hex.
We all know it was just a beta for the PS4 version
but hey, it's free so cant complain too much.
Spazznid
Member
Yeah, if PS2 ran like shit in big battles on a i7 + dual 580's, you think it's going to run better on a shitty PS4? I think you got your hopes up too high.
My stock i5 and single 580 runs it fine. 60 fps out of battle at max with PhysX on, and around 35-40 in battles.
Turning PhysX off fixes a lot of stuff too.
please read my comment that you quoted, again, I said the opposite of what it seems like you think I said.
Edit: AAAAHHHHH ALL THE GIFS ARE WITH US!!!
Even some of the DLC maps on the consoles have this.
PS2 always ran like garbage for me. I5-750 at 3.7 and a 670 and I would be lucky to hit 30-35 in really big fights. Since that's what PS2 can be reduced to, it made for a pretty unfun experience. That's not to mention the lack of long-term goals, the boring gunplay or the awful base fights.
i7 3770k @ 4.4ghz & 670 here and I can run PS2 at absolute max settings (ini tweaks) and get about 70-120fps outside of battles and 50-80fps in BIG battles now.
SirButterstick
Banned
Ummm, 35-40 fps isn't considered good performance.
Irregardless, I was a big fan of PS1. PS 2 really failed to capture that magic. A year from now it's going to end up being one of those 'what went wrong? All the magic was in place' stories that ends up being a post-mortem.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Of course, and it makes those games feel that much more empty.
JohnnySasaki86
Member
I swear no one ever reads my thread.
Similar to Mass Effect 3, which you could choose to buy or get through exp. I'm sure they'll do the same thing with BF4 has it seemed to do pretty well for them in ME3.
Well they just added the lattice back in and they're working on more PS1 mechanics to bring over too...just updated for PS2. In a year from now, it'll be....omg wow, it's improved so much!
Hell, it already has improved immensely since it's release. You should look at episode 34 of FNO to see what they have for base updates on Esamir
Xux
Member
Yeah, I always figured they were kept to a minimum 'cause they knew how much they ruined the game
Spazznid
Member
I'm sorry, but really, if either of these games provides long term goals, it's PS2.
BF has the goal of winning a match, whereas PS2 long-term goals would be gaining control of a continent, which could take an entire night if the opposition is strong, and alerts which result in some of the finest battles I've seen in my life.
Riding with a competent Platoon (of which there are many on most servers I've played on) and taking bases whilst the enemy is always at your neck. Learning the names of the men and women who you are facing, as well as those who you fight along side. Changing the tide of battle by coming to the aid of another 128-man platoon, to defend a high priority piece of land. And finishing the night off with the entire map bathed in your colors.
I love BF, I am that eagle thing with a 4 rank, after you get past rank 100 or whatever. Played well over 250 hours in it and still play today. It's a great game that could be better. I don't want to argue, but some of the hate in here just seems unwarranted. For both sides.
Roland1979
Junior Member
Exactly! I thought about Team Fortress 2 right away, it's random drops, and then... fp2.
Not that this is going to be f2p but it has micro-transactions/heavy dlc vibe. Hope I'm wrong.
SirButterstick
Banned
Yeah but man, at that point it'll be too late. It'll be way forgotten and pushed aside like many of these F2P games go.
It's really a shame, but the gaming landscape is totally different from what it was when PS1 was released. They should of waited and released it when it was fully optimized and could run at a great framerate. Instead, the BF series has been consistent since 1942 and I just see it getting better and better.
dreamghost
Member
Meh. Wonder how much EA Spacebux the platinum loot chests are?
Bought BF3 on all 3 platforms and premium on my 360. Sunk in 500+ hours in the multiplayer and i think im just done with the series for now.
Played a bit of PS2 on my pc but it was not the ideal machine for it. Looking forward the PS4 port. It seems SOE accutally listens to there customers and is at least open to listening to feedback.
Bought BF3 on all 3 platforms and premium on my 360. Sunk in 500+ hours in the multiplayer and i think im just done with the series for now.
Played a bit of PS2 on my pc but it was not the ideal machine for it. Looking forward the PS4 port. It seems SOE accutally listens to there customers and is at least open to listening to feedback.
crazepharmacist
Member
Yeah, I'm a huge fan of PS1 but I still enjoy PS2. I actually still play PS1 now that it's free to play but I still enjoy PS2's gameplay more. They just need to take more elements from PS1 that made it great and add them to PS2. Things like implants, continent locking, global lattice, sanctuaries, etc. Some of these things are already in the roadmap and we've already gotten a continental lattice system so I am confident sometime in the future PS2 will be considered an objectively better game than PS1 is every aspect.
I agree. Things are improving rapidly though. Things are coming, keep the hope up!
BF3 was fun but it wasnt BF, they should have released it as BC3. If they release another BC game after turning the BF series into BC then I quit DICE forever.
Yep,
On Esamir, I get 70-80fps in huge battles. I was like :O when I 1st noticed.
endlessflood
Member
What did Mass Effect 3 do? I'm assuming you could buy unlocks for MP, or something along those lines?
SirButterstick
Banned
Yeah, but at that point too bad no one will be playing it except for the die-hards. Expect a 'Red Orchestra' situation with this one.
Spazznid
Member
I'd disagree on that. I thought it took a big step backwards with 3. Especially coming from 2, but even from BC2, it felt like it lacked a lot. Not counting more players, but BC2 sounded better to me, I know it's an opinion. But no commander mode, and Easy Button DLC, Battlelog, and the music.
I like battlelog, but updating it is always a nightmare... Chrome does it perfectly, but Firefox, Waterfox, Palemoon, all have issues...
SirButterstick
Banned
I agree. Things are improving rapidly though. Things are coming, keep the hope up!
BF3 was fun but it wasnt BF, they should have released it as BC3. If they release another BC game after turning the BF series into BC then I quit DICE forever.
Yep,
On Esamir, I get 70-80fps in huge battles. I was like :O when I 1st noticed.
Since we were Battlebro's, I'm going to respectfully disagree with you. BF3 was the best game of 'this generation', and in my mind has the best gun on gun action in MP since Quake. I can't wait for BF4.
It's gunplay is good but it's hitdetection is probably the worst of the entire generation.
SirButterstick
Banned
Never had a problem with it.
Was just going to say that. Gun on gun WAS amazing but the hit detection made it completely frustrating. Another reason why the Alpha was a lot better. Hit detection was a lot better back then.
But yea battlebros for life SirButter
BoosterDuck
Banned
Oh god Dice is still going to use the crappy console ui for the PC version.
Fuck it
Fuck it
1st Course
Member
Gabe Newell said it best when he said that more CPU cores will bring more problems to PC gaming. It been like 6 years since quad cores CPUs and devs still haven't figure a way to utilize more than 2 cores in their games. It's absolutely ridiculous that even a 5 years old game like GTA IV cannot be maxed at 60 FPS because of the poor CPU optimization.
Hidden One
Member
Can't believe some lucky bastards are getting to play the Alpha Trial on Xbox360....
crazepharmacist
Member
I think this will change with the off the shelf PC parts being used next generation. Previously, 360 has a proprietary IBM cpu while Sony obviously had cell. Next gen both will be using x64 architecture which means better ports for PC.
It's insanely difficult to use more than 2 cores, much less 4 or 8. If anyone has tried to program a multithreaded application they will realize why.
I think a lot of developers are going to have a hard time getting perfomance out of 8 cores next generation.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Well, at least the objective meter is no longer in the center of the screen...
Also, 5 person squad
http://imgur.com/a/oBF5P/layout/horizontal#14
They need to make sure friends/parties aren't broken up when there are 8 or so people playing together.
Also, 5 person squad
http://imgur.com/a/oBF5P/layout/horizontal#14
They need to make sure friends/parties aren't broken up when there are 8 or so people playing together.
TalesOfWin
Banned
Count me in for some alpha trial like 2 years ago. It is generous by dice having them.
SomeOneInaHat
Member
That, or he may be standing outside but near to the capture zone.
That and allow for in-game chat on the PC version. It baffles me still today that Battlefield 3 PC doesn't support in-game chat.
I think that's the xbox start button.
The Faceless Master
Member
so is the resolution lower than the 1280x704 of console BF3? i see some bars but i'm not a pixel counterq
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Oblivionmancer
Member
Yeah, in case anyone was wondering if that experiment worked out, here you go. Who knew this was how that Bioware 'magic' would rub off on the rest of EA.
TalesOfWin
Banned
Wait 360 didnt had an alpha trial 2 years ago.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Definitely isn't
First shot I posted looks to be near the objective, but this seems to be on it.Edit: Yup, no longer in the center while capturing
http://i.imgur.com/cDUDkx9.jpg
Back button on the 360 controller
The Faceless Master
Member
i dunno about mixing it up... BC2 had the LMG medic trains and infinite 40mmgl/C4 assaults
TalesOfWin
Banned
Just like cod right? Who always gets a free pass with their yearly releases.
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