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Battlefield 4 Xbox 360 alpha screens leak (many don't have textures, broken geometry)
- Thread starter HolyFridge
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Is this what I think it is?
"buy battlepacks to win a chance at better accessories!"
oh fuck off dice... what is this shit.
I simply won't buy the game with those shitty unlocks. BF is such a random mess with way too many vehicles; it makes playing as an infantryman feel like some blown up game of 'Frogger', except in BF's case the traffic is heavily armed. The unlocks in the last game only made it worse for anyone who didn't want to spend hundreds of hours (or bend over and take it up the arse via a typical paid EA unlock). Punishing new players for being new is such a backwards way to design a game. Ugghh.
whatevermort
Member
The Battlepacks sound exactly the same as the Mass Effect 3 unlocks. They worked really, really well there.
Yeah, because it was co-op and played no part in MP balance. Free maps also helped make it a reasonable system.
KaiserBecks
Member
*sigh*
Looks like Battlefield 3.5
And still only 4 classes :/
BUT, this gives me so much hope!
Commander mode hints
I don't know if we need any more classes, but they need to change the way people
pick them. I think the class system in Red Orchestra works much better: you can pick a class, but the number of slots are limited. That way, you don't end up having 20 Snipers and 20 Machine Gunners in your team and weapons like LMGs and sniper rifles actually hurt people. Damage needs to be based on caliber, otherwise they shouldn't bother having heavier rifles at all.
It's also in Arma 2 (Army of Czech Republic DLC). It looks nice, but it's just a 9mm sub machine gun.
BF could learn so much from Red Orchestra. Limit the vehicles. Make them a separate class on their own. Make them scary, but limit them ffs. Another thing they should learn is that placing two specific points on the map that act as goals leads to a meatgrinder for those who want to do right by the team, and rewards those who don't. They get to sit back and buff up their K/D ratio whilst us poor team players are forced to expose ourselves over and over again. Expand the rush points to the size of conquest capture points at least. That way people who enjoy camping can still camp and do something useful and team players don't get punished for doing the right thing. It would also create a minor 'front-line' effect that would give the game some real structure and promote team-work because all of a sudden, flanking would become a key to victory.
Unfortunately, it seems EA/Dice aren't interested in making BF feel like an actual battle, though at least they are bringing commander back.
Dice can't be foolish enough to make the packs the only method to unlock new stuff.
It all must still be XP/rank based system like in BF3, but if you want to, you can try unlocking that one good gun early instead of reaching rank 40. Plus, I'd imagine they contain random customization items like skins, rare mods or xp boosts.
This COULD be a cool thing to have once you've reached max rank.
It all must still be XP/rank based system like in BF3, but if you want to, you can try unlocking that one good gun early instead of reaching rank 40. Plus, I'd imagine they contain random customization items like skins, rare mods or xp boosts.
This COULD be a cool thing to have once you've reached max rank.
Simply Sami
Member
So how many players online?
Is this what I think it is?
"buy battlepacks to win a chance at better accessories!"
Oh boy the same route as Mass Effect 3 MP. I do not like this,now is more gambling instead of getting what you really want to play with.
OdysseusVA
Banned
24 on current consoles. Unknown for X1/PS4
test_account
XP-39C²
A refresh or BF3 2013 would indicate that it is BF3 with additional content, at least that is how i would understand it. This is not what BF4 is. BF4 will be a new game, and most of what we saw in BF3 will not be in BF4 (primarily the single player campaign and the multiplayer maps). While there could be some semantics as you mention indeed, i think the general distinction between an expansion and a sequel is the amount of new content that is included.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
A dollar to reload a clip. It's coming. lol
Vasili2K38
Member
I've always said that Battlefield 3 (even with its flaws) its my favorite MP game of all time, but I hate with all my soul the Pachinko mechanic of the "EA packs", even more in a competitive online game which is not F2P. If the packs only featured cosmetic items, I wouldn't mind, but this is EA, and from we can see from the leaked screenshots the packs also unlock accesories, and we have categories of items, so I'm 99% sure that the standard unlocking will be very hard to get, so you will have to buy the damn packs. And you have the 50€ game, Battlefield Premium, etc..
So it the end, fuck you EA and it was nice knowing you Battlefield :´(
So it the end, fuck you EA and it was nice knowing you Battlefield :´(
The system seems to be similar to Battlefield 3, which wasn't hard at all. Yeah, sure you had to do a few assignments to unlock DLC weapons but again, they were very easy.
Vasili2K38
Member
Even if some of the "assignments" were retarded, I didn't mind it, but how this is the same thing? I'm sure you will unlock some "packs" (and you can see in the leaked screenshots) in the natural progression, and if you're Premium you will have some free packs every month (ala Season Ticket from Fifa for example), but then you will have to pay for it. Microtransactions in a full price game? Its a despicable practice..
Templar_Dante
Banned
EA nickel and fucking diming
I love Battlefield. But Im not so sure about this.
Bad Company 2 was the last great BF game. BF3 turned into a joke.
Oh you're right, I agree. Microtransactions are wank and a horrible business practice, but just saying all the mugs who fall for it won't really have an advantage over the good players in the game who will unlock the stuff the normal way. Like the shortcut packs in BF 3's store.
Vasili2K38
Member
Yeah, I didn't remember that. Now I see your point, but as I said in my first post, my biggest fear (and this is EA, remember) is that they will make the normal unlocking hard and grinding like hell in order to get the people buy the packs. I don't know, I will wait to see more details and the expected multiplayer reveal in E3, but I'm very skeptical :/ .
Templar_Dante
Banned
After they patch the hell out of the game (releases unbalanced,unfinished) they will promise to work on it.
Deja vu?
Assignments are the worst. Want a camo for your weapon? Fuck you just do 200 of this 400 of this and 150 with that. Same thing for a new weapons. I do not have the time for that and those carrot on a stick things are such annoying.
The_Squirrel_Menace
Member
Really on the fence for this.
For BF3 there was no competition in my mind, PC all the way. But I'm actually eyeing the PS4 for this one. Only if it has dedicated servers and 64 players like on PC.
For BF3 there was no competition in my mind, PC all the way. But I'm actually eyeing the PS4 for this one. Only if it has dedicated servers and 64 players like on PC.
All the BF games have had dedicated servers on consoles so that's one down. I think 64 players is almost guaranteed.
Isn't this what battle packs are for? So if you don't have the time you can get one and catch up with the crowd instead of being left behind? As long as the normal levelling up stays the same I don't see the issue?
The_Squirrel_Menace
Member
Yes I hope so, not even a rumors just yet though?
cebri.one
Member
I'll be surprised if battle recorder ever shows up now. Others are better positioned to create decent game recorders, like nvidia with shadow play.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
XP boosts aren't cosmetic stuff, dude. Nor are Weapon attachments.
It's the Mass Effect 3 system. I was wondering when they'd expand it to other titles.
Maybe, juuuuust maybe could this mean we'll get some free dlc.
postal chaos
Member
These battle packs sound like the prize boxes you acquire in Gears Judgement from just playing the game. Or am I just misunderstanding and these are packs you have to pay money for?
Vasili2K38
Member
Exactly, and this EA, its almost impossible for them to get "right" the microtransactions (book example, like Path of Exile). And what the hell, this isn't a F2P game dammit ><.
LOLOL
I still fail to see what the big deal is. Weapon attachments are so insignificant (and are bound to be earned in traditional ways aswell) and XP boosts are so... I dunno... meh? Not really an incentive to waste real money.
Then again... this is EA so they are bound to fuck it up.
EDIT: And you get these boxes by purely playing the game, too.
Looks like we are still stuck with small maps
Oh, come on. It's one picture from the 360 alpha. If you look at the server browser picture it looks like the games might be limited to 24 players. I suspect that the maps will be much larger in the final build.
Every Mass Effect 3 mp dlc was for free. I can see them releasing new weapons and stuff for free.
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