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Clinton: Trump supporters in "the basket of deplorables" ie - racist, homophobic, etc
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i hope a big polling firm asks the trump supporters a bunch of similar questions and see what they say.
Lord Frieza
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Are some of you people serious with the America shit? She's not being literally, obviously. She knows she's in fucking America, for the love of Kukulkan. She's clearly being symbolic, as in saying that's not what America is suppose to be, what it symbolizes. Jesus, you all are going to start a new movement among the alt-right that Clinton is senile and doesn't even know what fucking country she's in.
Team Alucard
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This is basically her version of Romney's 47% comment.
Not a good look.
Not a good look.
I mean, your average talk radio blowhards will try to make it out like this, but I don't see the comparison.
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eBay Huckster
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You wish it was because maybe then it'd validate your reason for posting.
Lord Frieza
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The basket strikes back
no there is lots of evidence to back up her statement.
smokeandmirrors
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Only to trump supporters and the ignorant but I repeat myself
Team Alucard
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Trump is polling at 42%.
She is basically calling 42% of the country deplorable. That's not much different from Romney calling 47% of the country lazy.
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I'm a Hillary stan and not of the 'both are the same' persuasion but let's not act like superpradators and anti-gay speech weren't the name of the game for her at one time now that we're on the subject
I mean, context and nuance is hard. Knee-jerk outrage is much, much easier.
metalslimer
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User 463088
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Bless your heart.
I think the 81% of whites thinking their discrimination is as bad as miniority discrimination is much worse. They actually live in a different world..
Reading am hard.
eBay Huckster
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Pretty sure she's explicitly calling 21% of the country deplorable, which isn't too far from W's approval ratings in 2008 and is probably the same proportion of the country that would get openly mad about interracial marriage
she said half of his supporters so that would be 21% then.
DontBeThatGuy
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Your reading comprehension skills need work.
David H Wong
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Right? You have to call out monsters for what they are. This is a hate movement, born of bigotry. It's not about jobs, or banks, or anything else. Trump has one attribute that sets him apart: he is open about his hate, and he has brought the monsters out of the woodwork.
We have to confront it, and call it what it is. To do anything else is being fundamentally dishonest.
Cheesemeister
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True statement!
But Hillary can't say it. This will be trouble.
But Hillary can't say it. This will be trouble.
Any time anyone brings up the super predator comment, I know they couldn't give two shits about the people they're supposedly directed at. Just some lame nonsense.
Ragnarsson
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I'm surprised she was so candid about this. She's right. It's sad that things are as they are, but she's right.
She fucked up by giving a solid number. If she had been vague and had said "some" or "a portion" or "a few" she would have been fine. It's stupid but that's how it works. She was having such a good week after the Matt Lauer fuck up and the positive reaction to her press conferences too.
Lys Skygge
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Fuck 'em! Hilary is right.
Lord Frieza
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Will there be a rumble?
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? Quite shallow that you go there at any mention of it, not to mention dramatic and false. Even she condemned that comment. Please. I'm not saying hold a grudge over it like she never learned. I'm saying acknowledge she's learned and come to a better place on plenty of ideas.
Y'all are coming after me and I don't have a problem with her. I just don't care for the complete comment she gave.
Dubbedinenglish
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Half of his support so 21%.
The half that reads Brietbart, chants "lock her up" cheers at calling for her to be shot.
You're full of it.
User 463088
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I'm not going to touch the super predator thing because, just no.
But, she hasn't said anything anti-gay. If you want to talk about the fact that she didn't support marriage equality, well I have a list of people we would have to label as "anti-gay." (And it would include Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Bill Clinton, and about 70% of Americans at some point). But that is, literally, one aspect of a person's record when it comes to an issue as complex as LGBT rights.And she's been a great ally and advocate to the LGBT community. So, no on that one, too, I'm afraid.
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Oh my bad, she was always positive on gay issues 👌
She's awesome currently and I haven't suggested otherwise so I'm a bit lost as to what the problem is
Donald Trump literally started his campaign by calling immigrants criminals and rapists. One of his most touted proposals is banning members of an entire faith from entering the US entirely. He constantly retweets actual white supremacists and tweeted and anti-semetic meme to insult his opponent. He questioned a judge's ability to do his job properly because of his Mexican heritage.
It's no surprise that a man that has founded an entire presidential campaign on white nationalism has attracted some of the most nefarious demographics into supporting him. Why do you think sites like Stormfront, Breitbart, /pol/, & 8chan are championing him? There is no question that at least half, if not a good majority of Trump supporters support him because they think he's the key to keeping straight white cisgender Christian Americans in power for as long as possible.
It's no surprise that a man that has founded an entire presidential campaign on white nationalism has attracted some of the most nefarious demographics into supporting him. Why do you think sites like Stormfront, Breitbart, /pol/, & 8chan are championing him? There is no question that at least half, if not a good majority of Trump supporters support him because they think he's the key to keeping straight white cisgender Christian Americans in power for as long as possible.
metalslimer
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There's a wide gap between where she was at and anti-gay speech. We're talking about a time where it was poltically ok to say that gay people deserved to contract HIV and there were very few political consequences. You have a point that people (and countries) move forward on issues all the time, but there is a large difference from moving like that to trying to convince the people that the LGBT community are going to hell are deviants.
There is too much research out there showing how difficult it is to change opinions once its ingrained especially for those who stay sheltered.
The bad part about this statemetn was her calling those people un American because as much as we don't want to admit it, the bigotry is large part of America.
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check my post history or something idk. We're in agreement on too much for this to continue where you're going. These things have come up in threads we've both been in before and with more nuance and I've defended her so let's not
Orbis Tabula
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For those who are saying "this is too general, some of his supporters are just uninformed/ignorant/fooled. We can win them back with love." Maybe read the rest of her statement. There's a reason the "basket of deplorables" is only used to describe 50%.
blackaroni
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I hope she doesn't apologize and continues to bring up all the points she made in that alt-right speech.
Stumpokapow
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Romney's 47% comment didn't affect the election, so if that's what you mean, then sure.
DontBeThatGuy
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Hillary shouldn't soften, continue to paint a significant portion of these people as what we all know and understand them to be.
Ya got trouble,
With a capital "T"
And that rhymes with "C"
And that stands for Crooked Hillary
EmpressInYellow
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Trump hired an actual white nationalist publisher as his campaign executive. For media people to rush to the fainting couch when Clinton then states that a significant proportion of his supporters are bigots is the height of "both sides" Beltway insularity.
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