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Theecliff

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God damn I go for tea and when I return there's a 12 page long CBOAT thread with enough bombas to sink a battleship

Edit: Make that 14 pages by the time I wrote that
 

Jonboy

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Late October PS4 launch? YES!

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Eh companies like Platinum and Obsidian will sell to whoever's buying. They have to to stay alive.

Kamiyas is probably a top 3 game design talent though. If MS is willing to give them a budget and marketing exposure akin to that of their other second party games then we could be looking at a Kamiya game to the likes of which we haven't seen in years in terms of sales and quality.

The part about it not being released in America or Europe or whatever sounds ridiculous. MS isn't moneyhatting anything for Japan exclusivity anymore. That ship sailed long ago.
 

char0n

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Love CBOAT, it makes it more awesome that since he's clearly probably altering the text to not get profiled/traced I always imagine his posts in that heavily modulated "deepthroat" type voice sources use on the phone in dramas. Tried my hand at a total translation leaving most stuff as intact/close to the original as possible

Greetings from the land of beer and bratwursts and weird porn! Got here a little while ago and am tired so I'm dropping this early. Then bed then visit some [churches and friends at the park?] & work-meeting stuff and then see how the game-floor is later on this week.

truthfact #1
No live-stream for real reasons. XBOne architecture is still not fully complete. Latest version of the SDK a couple weeks ago dropped performance by 15-20% across the board. NOW BEFORE YOU GET MAD AT ME XBOTTLES(sic) this happens ALL THE TIME in console development and it will eventually be fixed but no chance for an early october release or...

truthfact #2
... certainly not for all 21 countries. Localization is absolute 100% BS. Period. TRUTHFACT. It's an excuse nobody with common sense would consider. Look at the countries dropped. Cross reference against languages spoken, official and otherwise in said countries. I said yield issues 2 months ago and the chicks have come home to roost. [Knock ons for launch title, I Smartglass?], etc... instead of 180s one-coherent vision. Paying the price now.

truthfact #3
late October launch for PS4. Sony SDK is ready. You can basically master-to-final right now. Today.

truthfact #4
If you thought people were mad about Bayonetta going sequel-exclusive to Wii-U, you'll be somewhat unhappy about what MS is money hatting with Platinum. Other Japanese devs are in play too, but Kamiya-town is the ONLY one I am solid on. Game is NOT for north america or europe, by the way, which makes no sense but whatever.

truthfact #5
Bigpark nuked a game. It was a MOBA. Dead-dead-dead now. The whole studio is focused on TV services! All the best talent went to Black Tusk or left MS entirely. Rare is still Kinect focused, no matter what else you've heard.

truthfact #6
New indie publish policy is not set yet. Post launch.

truthfact #7:September surprise early.
Apologies in advance. Everything I saw over the last 24 months was that there was no chance of a kinectless SKU. Solid-concrete dicision, as firm as beach-volleyball buttocks, no matter what other changes have been going on around here.

... well about that,

Whispers of a kinect-optional (not in-box) SKU early next year, March/April. Enough smoke now that I didn't want to wait until September to say it. Launch number fallout will play its part.

Ass-storm incoming.
 

jbug617

Banned
Can't say I saw the Platnium thing coming, but hey, gotta do what you have to keep the boat afloat.

Wonderful 101 seems like it might not do well sales wise due to Wii U sales. I'm sure if a company comes up to them for an exclusive they would be open to it.
 

Nobility

Banned
Thank you for the update CBOAT.

I hope that late PS4 launch news is true, it's amazing we are this close to launch!

I am surprised about that Platinum games news, if true, MS should press hard on promotion at TGS.
 

Knuf

Member
Thank you CBoaT, amazing truthfacts as always.
A Kinectless Xbone SKU is well expected and predictable, but Japanese devs still getting moneyhatted when MS showed complete disregard towards Japanese people in the past months and considering how hard the Xbone will bomb there is surprising.
 

Acosta

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For god's sake Microsoft, stay away from Japanese developers...

Well, I guess I should be happy Platinum still gets credit to keep working on stuff.

Thanks CBOAT!
 

c0de

Member
It would seem odd to change hardware this late in development. Surely they are close to the manufacturing stage now.

And 20% sounds like a huge performance drop.

I already said how this can happen. I feel sorry for MS hardware and sdk-division... Wouldn't like to work there now.
 

Skeff

Member
Okay then, I have some questions:

Truthfact#1
I can see the SDK issue being true, but how would that make streaming impossible makes no sense... Most of the live presentations are trailers and/or staged any way... And if that is true, how come they will have plenty of kiosks where people can test their games?

Truthfact#2
So, you don't know for sure localization excuses are BS, and is just speculating from the languages those countries speak? Dunno, considering that by localization they also mean voice recognition that's a perfectly valid excuse, because the same language with different accents are treated as completely different languages by voice recog software.

Truthfact#6
You mean they still don't know what their policies will be, or that whatever their policies are they are not releasing them until after launch?

For #1 it's highly likely they planned a press conference to demonstrate live lots of multimedia feature that went into the xb1 at let's say firmware version 0.80, however firmware 0.80 slowed the xb1 down considerably, because of this it would be a bad choice to for example play forza and upload a video of it like sony did, because the performance would be sub par. The problem is they simple can't just roll back the driver to version 0.79 because that did not have the game DVR feature implemented.

The specifics of this post are made up, it's just an example that can e modified for any feature/game combo they wanted to demonstrate.
 
Gies vs Cboat!!!!

EDIT: Just to remind people, the dude is a person regardless of if you disagree. For the asshat who came straight in with "you're full of shit". Wish I had that as a disclaimer before I got quoted to hell.

That was me, and I saw his tweet before I saw it here. Thanks for calling me an asshat though, I'm a person too.
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
That's what it reads like, though that makes no sense.

It does make sense. This is a 'holding' tactic by the looks of it. Instead of trying to beat Sony by offering more, they're trying to stop Sony's momentum in Japan by buying up Japanese exclusives. It's the same 'holding' tactic they used with the HD-DVD to slow Blu-ray down. I don't think it will work though.
 

Pistolero

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A Kinectless SKU should happen at launch. It makes no sense to sell 2-4 million consoles at 499$ only to turn around and slash the price by 100$ or more 5 months later. Talk about raping the first wave of buyers. Just drop the damn thing from the get-go, and sell your console for the same price or 50$ cheaper than the PS4, and you could do wonders.
A question : When CBOAT says "the architecture is incomplete", is he really suggesting they are STILL working on the innards of the machine, or is he referring to SDKs and dev tools? Because if it's the former, I doubt a November release is even possible...
 
CBOAT's revelation about the performance drop of up to 20% just 3 months before release....seems kind of a big deal, even though he says not to worry - could we see the Nov release getting pushed back?
 
Kamiyas is probably a top 3 game design talent though. If MS is willing to give them a budget and marketing exposure akin to that of their other second party games then we could be looking at a Kamiya game to the likes of which we haven't seen in years in terms of sales and quality.

The part about it not being released in America or Europe or whatever sounds ridiculous. MS isn't moneyhatting anything for Japan exclusivity anymore. That ship sailed long ago.

Not only that, but even if it fails, it won't negatively affect platinum, much like TW101. Win/Win

I look forward to playing it one day. Id love to see what that mind would come up with with some real money. I only hope Microsoft learns from the mistake they made with NInja gaiden 2. These games take time, don't rush them.
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
CBOAT, bed so early? You should hit a local nightbar and grab yourself some Helga for this info ;)
 
Wonderful 101 seems like it might not do well sales wise due to Wii U sales. I'm sure if a company comes up to them for an exclusive they would be open to it.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm thinking. As long as they're still in business at the end of the day, regardless of platform exclusivity, I'm happy.
 
I remember when Jack Tretton said this in the GT interview at last years E3 I think it was.

"I think, ideally, in a perfect world, you want the best machine that ships first, that's cheapest, but the number one goal is to be the best machine and that's what we're always focused on,"
 

James Sawyer Ford

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CBOAT's revelation about the performance drop of up to 20% just 3 months before release....seems kind of a big deal, even though he says not to worry - could we see the Nov release getting pushed back?

Curious about this myself. Is he saying that the performance will be bumped back up by the time of launch, or just that the SDK will be final in time for November?
 

Chaostar

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When I first saw that tweet pic I was like...

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Shame it's a fake.

I'm definitely on #teamCBOAT regarding the Gies thing.
 
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