-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Critical analysis of Dragon Ball Z A short dissertation
- Thread starter Bowflex
- Start date
- Status
Bowflex
The fact that anyone supports Hillary boggles my mind... I have tested between 130-160 on IQ tests
Just finished movie 9, "Bojack Unbound"
Another superb movie entry for the series. The art and animation were great, top-notch fight choreography, pacing was good, lots of good characterization, etc.
One thing worth mentioning...Trunks' look in this movie is the epitome of "badass" - his shoulder-length lilac hair, sleeveless jean jacket over a black tank top, ripped arms. Such a good design.
Another superb movie entry for the series. The art and animation were great, top-notch fight choreography, pacing was good, lots of good characterization, etc.
One thing worth mentioning...Trunks' look in this movie is the epitome of "badass" - his shoulder-length lilac hair, sleeveless jean jacket over a black tank top, ripped arms. Such a good design.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Super Saiyan was the coolest fucking shit ever when I first saw that. THE COOLEST FUCKING THING EVER.
Tesseract
Banned
dbz is fucking cool.
you're telling me i can eat this bean to replenish my energy? thanks, talking cat. brb, gotta fly out of snakeway and save my friends using multiplicative powerups and spirit energy.
it's the ultimate male power fantasy. faulconer's score is masterful. toriyama's art is masterful. the only niggling concern is the filler, but that stuff is dumb fun, just like the show.
*edit* i quit after freeza.
you're telling me i can eat this bean to replenish my energy? thanks, talking cat. brb, gotta fly out of snakeway and save my friends using multiplicative powerups and spirit energy.
it's the ultimate male power fantasy. faulconer's score is masterful. toriyama's art is masterful. the only niggling concern is the filler, but that stuff is dumb fun, just like the show.
*edit* i quit after freeza.
Bowflex
The fact that anyone supports Hillary boggles my mind... I have tested between 130-160 on IQ tests
Angry Grimace said:
Pretty much. I remember waiting a fucking HOUR on my best friend's dial-up to watch a 10 second clip of Goku going super saiyan and nearly pooping myself with excitement when I finally saw it.
Banzaiaap said:
DB was awesome. Always made for a good afternoon...
And I'm with the group that agrees that it got ridiculous after the Frieza Saga.
cajunator said:
Yeah, it is pretty interesting. Although all things considered, Lelouch killed a LOT of people directly/indirectly. More messed up so towards the end where he literally sends hundreds/thousands of people to their death. Something that I noticed when I rewatched the series last year.
Wheeljack539
Gold Member
Takao said:
I say UK version because that's where it was aired primarily and how most fans knew about it. Hell, there used to be a site dedicated to it back in 2002-2005 or so called UKDBZ with the actors that were employed by the Vancouver Ocean/Westwood group.
Even though it brought back most of the original cast (fuck them for not wanting to pay Ian Corlett), it was besieged by many voice directors who wanted different things (spoke to Scott McNeil about this back in 2002), use of slightly altered Funimation scripts, and the use of BGM from other series sans a few tracks.
onemic said:
Overall I might agree with you. Dragonball got better and better and never hit a low point for me. The end when Goku is all grown up was a huge emotional moment for me since you have been used to him being a kid for like 4 seasons.
Dragon Ball Z peaked at Frieza. It was great by the end of Cell Saga but then dropped down significantly in the Buu saga.
Faulconer made DBZ in the west. His music along with VG music inspired me to make music myself. I can't watch DBZ without it, although I wouldn't mind watching the Japanese version but only if it had Faulconer music in it... If only they remade Kai like this for us
Uno Venova
Banned
Just popping in to say I don't know who was in charge of putting the metal music in the movies but I hate them because it makes some of them so unwatchable for me. On the other hand Bruce Falconer in the main series is fantastic, can't enjoy Kai as much without them, though some his themes do get played to much.
Otrebor Nightmarecoat
Banned
Goku and gohan sound like annoying bitches in the jap dub. Good thing the eng dub fixed those voices. Still, its a fantastic series with too much fat. Thank god for Kai.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
No shit.
Wheeljack539 said:
Well, the dub isn't UK exclusive. It aired in Canada (as did the Calgary produced dubs of GT, and DB), and before either of them, it aired in the Netherlands.
Teetris[B said:
He made it so much that the initial 67 episodes that sparked the creation of the dub that had his music had absolutely no involvement from him.
Otrebor Nightmarecoat said:
Yeah, instead Gohan sounds like a chain smoker in the dub of Z.
GrizzNKev said:
This is factually wrong with Monster, Gurren Lagann and Death Note existing.
Anyway, Naruto definitely doesn't "fix" DBZ, it's full of its own filler arcs and garbage as well.
DBZ had a chronic problem of keeping people on the edge of their seat....for weeks.....
Bowflex
The fact that anyone supports Hillary boggles my mind... I have tested between 130-160 on IQ tests
The way Vegeta says goodbye to Trunks before he returns to the future made me realize just how original these characters really are. It was a really wonderful moment.
I take back a lot of what I said in the OP about the characters being simple. They definitely could have been developed more, but they are truly unlike any others. I already feel I like I'm going to miss them when I'm finished watching the show and I will remember them for some time.
I take back a lot of what I said in the OP about the characters being simple. They definitely could have been developed more, but they are truly unlike any others. I already feel I like I'm going to miss them when I'm finished watching the show and I will remember them for some time.
Byakuya769
Member
Except god main character having other-worldly progression leaving all mentors and former rivals in the dust.Bad_Boy said:
Aizu_Itsuko
Member
It's a show for kids inspired by Superman with plain (but charismatically designed) characters that spend five episodes charging up their powers.
Enjoy it for what it is or just accept its flaws and the hours of entertainment that provided you in your teenage days.
The show was intended to end after the Namec arc anyway; people just kept asking for more and Toriyama gave them two more arcs before he finally quit.
Enjoy it for what it is or just accept its flaws and the hours of entertainment that provided you in your teenage days.
The show was intended to end after the Namec arc anyway; people just kept asking for more and Toriyama gave them two more arcs before he finally quit.
Wheeljack539
Gold Member
Takao said:
Yes, I know and I apologize if I insinuated that, but most if not all of my dealings with fans of that version have all been from the UK. Hell, even the episodes I did have were encoded over there.
Keru_Shiri
Member
So, a few people here have pointed out that Toriyama hated Vegeta. Is there a source for this? I've done some digging, but couldn't find anything on Google.
Infernodash
Member
Bad_Boy said:
How is that possible? It has a year worth of filler between the ending fight of sasuke and naruto and then the time skip.
D
Deleted member 74300
Unconfirmed Member
Monocle said:
Or do they?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2bh8g_Jwfg&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m1hwmsmsQY
Okay not really fair since those were just movies but more excuses for me to post them.
RedAssedApe
Banned
If you have to watch the anime...watch Kai. But I say skip the anime entirely and just read the manga. Its paced much better and it leaves out that abortion that is DBGT.
I would have been completely satisfied if the series had just ended after the Cell games. Gohan going SSJ2 was pretty awesome in the original Japanese anime though.
I would have been completely satisfied if the series had just ended after the Cell games. Gohan going SSJ2 was pretty awesome in the original Japanese anime though.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Fuck it. Nostalgia>>>Criticism.
I still love the fuck out of this series.
I still love the fuck out of this series.
Agreed, I still remember watching Buu as a kid going "WTF?" at all the zaniness. Gotenks was the point where I lost it, the whole fight was ridiculous.
Lamel
Banned
lmao, that was good.
He was always off the deep end, haha. More so that the other editors were very hard on him, while his Boo editor is the one Toriyama was pushed least with.
It's pretty obvious that editors were keeping him on the path to glory. You can read up on how Cell turned out so well BECAUSE his editor kept telling him to refine the ideas.
Originally Gero and 19 were going to be the big scary villains. Editor said they needed work.
Then 17/18 were going to be the big bads. Still not very scary.
So Cell was introduced. STILL not scary enough in his insectoid form.
Cell's new forms were introduced. It took 2 of them before finalizing on one that his editor didn't think looked stupid, and now we all know cell in his classic humanoid form.
Yeah. And him eating the androids creeped me the fuck out when I was a kid.
milkyjay20
Member
criticizing dbz is so easy that it's not even worth doing. you really have to appreciate it in a bubble, away from everything else. there's an appeal with dbz that is hard to explain; for me, it's how overwhelmingly hopeless things can get but the heroes always figure a way out of it. that and i love bulma.
cell saga was ok
I should be doing hw
Member
I recall the whole start of that arc having a creepy atmosphere. Am I right in recollecting that they didn't show Cell's first form straight away? They teased it for a while, with shed skin and reaction shots etc. before finally showing him. His english voice made it less creepy when he started talking; they should have kept that for his second form or something.
I find it the opposite, it's so easy to criticise DBZ in a self-contained environment. I can only find appreciation for it in the context of when it was released and the cultural climate of America (or the West) and Japan during that era, at which point it becomes fascinating.
- Status