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Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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Looks like a good profile, the right balance. Mines pretty much straight up goofy but thats my personality so im not gonna change it and be someone im not. I have a couple of good convos going but i havent met anyone off there yet. I came close though (I got invited over on christmas day but i don't own a vehicle)

ps i'll show up as perving your profile since i was logged in hahaha!
 

Sec0nd

Member
OK guys, how does one practice lasting "longer" during sex?

At times, I can just "go" right away. Like, it's in and BAM! I have to take it out.... So, what are some tips for more stamina?

(and I think it has to do that I watch porn daily - but I'm willing to make that sacrifice if needed)

Do math in your head. It works.
 
lol wow...a lot of umm..."nice" guys up in this here thread

End that shit now if you didn't already, or if you want to have some fun, mindfuck her somehow. I don't understand how kissing anyone else is acceptable. Maybe I'm too old (28), but if one of my girls ever kissed another guy, I'd find a way to have her drain her bank account for me willingly and then I'd disappear the next day and leave her emotionally scarred for life.

All this nice guy courtesy shit has to stop. Women need to know there are boundaries and lines you don't cross. Something about the question and the first reply just bugged the shit out of me, like men in this country are becoming the fairer/weaker sex and women are just empowered to walk all over them. It's just weird.
While I agree with you completely that there are boundaries and lines you don't cross, I really think the circumstances of this situation dictate the response.

A kiss can be a lot of things. If she made out with some guy at a party or something then yeah, get rid of her. But are you really going to dump her over a small meaningless kiss/peck? Hell, for all we know that could've been a greeting/goodbye that meant absolutely nothing.

To be clear I am in no way encouraging him to "let her walk all over him," I just think we need more details of the circumstances surrounding it before we can help him make an informed decision.
 

Miguel

Member
I'm listening soultron, but I need to be 100% sure. Call me blind, call me stupid I don't care but I still want this to work out. This week is going to make it or break it, I want answers first. And no, I'm not going to fall for her lies.

Me circa 1/5/2012... just let it go.
 

Miguel

Member
More specifically to your situation... bacon

Are you really willing to put up with her being grounded for.... 6 months?! Really? Who the fuck has ever been grounded for 6 months?

If it's true... that means 6 months of nothing... since she lives far away and it's not like you can meet her at school for lunch or anything...

Logistically, it's impossible. But she's grounded and having a friend over? Wat?

I'd be trying to justify it to myself in your situation. I've done it many times in the past, not the exact situation, but various similar things. If she refuses to meet up with you when you're travelling to where she is, then well, maybe that's your answer right there.
 
Online dating can be so fucking disappointing...

I recently moved and all of my personal photos are at home yet so my profile consists of a few self taken pics over the last few weeks. They do the job but I feel it's hurting my success since they're not anything special.

I think my profile is well written and I think I send good emails to girls. I usually pick 2 or 3 things we have in common based on her profile and then briefly tell how I can relate or whatever. (I.e. I see you're a snowboarder, I've been snowboarding for 10 years now and love it! Etc....) I have a successful and stable career, interesting background, I'm fit and healthy, yet I get replies 10% of the time. Fucking depressing. Do people put that much influence in the photos? I personally don't care if a girl has 20 photos showing her doing tons of different stuff or 2 photos of her in the mirror. If her profile is interesting and she's attractive that's all I care about...i guess if my photos aren't that exciting and turn some girls off I wouldn't care for superficial people like that anyways.

I lately had a nice emailing with a girl. We both violated some rules of this thread and responded a couple times each the same day. The conversation was good and we went to the next day. We exchanged a couple more emails and after the last one I sent (the 4th one) I decided based on the tone of her reply I would see if she'd be interested in phone conversation. Well suddenly contact stopped from her yet I see she's been online several times the last 2 days. I'm on match.com and I noticed she had the "IM me now!" icon by her name. I was about to give it a shot and IM her but then the icon went off but she was still online. I think this means she was now in an IM conversation with someone else. Fucking hell.

Whatever. I'm moving on to the next match but damn this shit is frustrating.

I feel your pain, bro. I'm going nowhere with the online dating thing. I had one girl who was interested but as mentioned before in OT2 she was just dragging her feet on everything and wasn't talking to me as much (and lied to me) so I dropped her. Since then, I've had nothing but someone I'd have no interest in message me once. That was it.

I'm honestly about ready to delete my profile and just forget about this. It's pointless, and yeah, it's their loss, but I'm tired of getting nothing out of this. Not even a 90 percent match is good enough, it seems. :-\
 

Miguel

Member
So I'm considering texting another girl from before, knid of an ex, not entirely sure we were ever really serious, and at worst she's just not going to reply. Had some fun times with her, and I've pretty much already convinced myself to text her... another friend may talk me out of it, but she was essentially selling me on it earlier despite being against it. Won't hurt I suppose.
 
Women sometimes...

So I just got home from a family party and decide to give POF a look. I come across a woman's profile. Her profile states in multiple sections that she has just moved to LA and is looking for friends. She also just finalized her divorce.

Primary profile picture is her in a bikini. She doesn't list any interests.

Bitch, you're not looking for friends. You're looking for guys to serve as your playthings. Stop lying and say you want to date with no strings attached. I don't know her but I already have an inkling as to why she has one failed marriage already.
 
Women sometimes...

So I just got home from a family party and decide to give POF a look. I come across a woman's profile. Her profile states in multiple sections that she has just moved to LA and is looking for friends. She also just finalized her divorce.

Primary profile picture is her in a bikini. She doesn't list any interests.

Bitch, you're not looking for friends. You're looking for guys to serve as your playthings. Stop lying and say you want to date with no strings attached. I don't know her but I already have an inkling as to why she has one failed marriage already.

haha yep, spot on.
 
OK guys, how does one practice lasting "longer" during sex?

At times, I can just "go" right away. Like, it's in and BAM! I have to take it out.... So, what are some tips for more stamina?

(and I think it has to do that I watch porn daily - but I'm willing to make that sacrifice if needed)

I don't even know what's a good length of time. I usually can last between 20-30 min.
 

RawPower

Banned
There are a lot of gold diggers out there. Both men and women. If you're concerned about being manipulated or used for material reasons then keep that aspect of your life close to the vest, or a complete secret, until you're comfortable with the person you're dating.

Word. Sounds like a plan.
 
I feel your pain, bro. I'm going nowhere with the online dating thing. I had one girl who was interested but as mentioned before in OT2 she was just dragging her feet on everything and wasn't talking to me as much (and lied to me) so I dropped her. Since then, I've had nothing but someone I'd have no interest in message me once. That was it.

I'm honestly about ready to delete my profile and just forget about this. It's pointless, and yeah, it's their loss, but I'm tired of getting nothing out of this. Not even a 90 percent match is good enough, it seems. :-\

Same here. I have only had one reply to tens of messages I have sent out so far, and the girl was clearly disinterested. I see a few different people looking at my profile and nothing happens. And today I sent a message to a girl who took the initiate to look at my profile, then few minutes later I saw that she looked at my profile again - still nothing.

oh well
 
Same here. I have only had one reply to tens of messages I have sent out so far, and the girl was clearly disinterested. I see a few different people looking at my profile and nothing happens. And today I sent a message to a girl who took the initiate to look at my profile, then few minutes later I saw that she looked at my profile again - still nothing.

oh well

Yeah POF and OKCupid I have the same thing - I get views (easily) but nary a reply like "I want to know more about you!"

Maybe they're timid? Shy? Fuck if I know, but I hate it when, even though I was the one who initiated a conversation, they just view my profile and not say a damn thing. I don't know what that means damn it!
 
I have about a 30% response rate and 80% view after reading message rate on OkCupid. Most of the responses don't turn into anything but I get dates every now and then but then I learn something crippling that they didn't list on their profile like being vegetarian.

POF, well, I got a fuck buddy out of it even though she isn't really my type. Maybe I should give her a text. I could use a pick me up.
 

Slavik81

Member
Yeah POF and OKCupid I have the same thing - I get views (easily) but nary a reply like "I want to know more about you!"

Maybe they're timid? Shy? Fuck if I know, but I hate it when, even though I was the one who initiated a conversation, they just view my profile and not say a damn thing. I don't know what that means damn it!

Maybe your profile isn't very interesting? Views are always going to be a lot easier to get than messages, but a lacklustre profile might lower your conversion rate.
 

Mr.Fresh

Member
OK Gaf. Girl is seriously confusing me. We have this whole convo about how she doesn't like me as a bf, but as a friend. OK I'm cool with it whatever. But ever since that day she changed. She texts me everyday now asking me what I'm doing just because she wanted to know. She's spending the night at my house the weekend my parents are going away. ( I'm 18 btw). She texts me saying she wants to chill every day of every weekend. And now she's saying she wants me to be her Valentine and take her out eat to the movies.

I haven't been texting her no where near as much as i used to before and i guess she wants the attention. Today she texts me saying my friend wants to know what I'm doing tonight. But i was with him so why would he want to know that lol. Before we had that convo about being just friends we texted each other all the time but now she texts me from the time she wakes up till she goes to sleep or until i go pick her up. Before she would give me a bro handshake when she seen me now she hugs me and just homes when i g?rab her ass. Oh and one other detail she's moving in march.

My other situation. There's this girl at my college who I just met through my friend. He tells me how he wants to fuck her and everything all the time. So Thursday when we were at school as I leave my class I notice that she's sitting next to him. So i go over there and sit with them. I introduce myself to her and we walk her to class having small talk. Later that day I see her in the building where my math class is. She sits next to me, calling me her new best friend. We talk for a while and she says " give me your number so we can text." So I give it to her and we text all day. That night I text: What you doing tonight? She replies "Hopefully I'm doing you :)." Should I hit it Gaf? Lol.
 
OK guys, how does one practice lasting "longer" during sex?

At times, I can just "go" right away. Like, it's in and BAM! I have to take it out.... So, what are some tips for more stamina?

(and I think it has to do that I watch porn daily - but I'm willing to make that sacrifice if needed)

How fast do you jack off when you watch porn? You should try and get into the habit of lasting a bit longer when you are masterbating.

As mentioned above doing something like maths in your head can work as well.
 
Yeah POF and OKCupid I have the same thing - I get views (easily) but nary a reply like "I want to know more about you!"

Maybe they're timid? Shy? Fuck if I know, but I hate it when, even though I was the one who initiated a conversation, they just view my profile and not say a damn thing. I don't know what that means damn it!

Yea I don't know either. I'm sure my profile can always be improver, but content wise I thought it was all right, showed my personality. Maybe I need more and better pictures.

But to be honest who knows about the online world. Like the short-lived thread for online dating, it was stated that people's expectation go way up, so there's always that. It could be a certain demographics that might tend to do better. Not to mention the importance of pics. I think
 

Darklord

Banned
Yeah POF and OKCupid I have the same thing - I get views (easily) but nary a reply like "I want to know more about you!"

Maybe they're timid? Shy? Fuck if I know, but I hate it when, even though I was the one who initiated a conversation, they just view my profile and not say a damn thing. I don't know what that means damn it!

I think a lot are really picky. Look at your profile for like 2 seconds, close. That's it. Online dating is different to actually picking up girls. When you do it in real life it's hard to find the confidence but if you do their forced to interact with you which gives you a chance. In online dating it's a whole other beast.

Same here. I have only had one reply to tens of messages I have sent out so far, and the girl was clearly disinterested. I see a few different people looking at my profile and nothing happens. And today I sent a message to a girl who took the initiate to look at my profile, then few minutes later I saw that she looked at my profile again - still nothing.

oh well

This happens a lot. Also remember that a lot don't read messages regularly. Out of 10 I sent on one site, one fucking chick read it. One! At least open the message, read what it says. Just keep trying though and remember to the make each message personal. Point out stuff related to them. "I saw you like X band. Their first album was awesome I listen to it all the time". Even ask them a question to try and bait them to reply even to just answer it.

I feel like online dating is all about going for everything. 10-15-20 chicks might ignore you but if you get 1, well that's all you need to get going.
 

Aurora

Member
Yes, that's the thing about online dating. Many people think of it as an extension of a club or coffee shop or whatever. They pick and choose the girl they like the most and go for her, then get upset and disappointed if she doesn't reply.

Online dating is nothing like chatting up girls in person. It is extremely impersonal until you actually get a decent conversation going. You should be sending at least 10 messages a day, just keep pumping out messages to ANY girl, it doesn't matter if she isn't amazing, just keep sending them out and eventually you will get some replies, then try set up a date from those.

Bear in mind, there are countless guys all messaging the same girls. Girls receive on average 100 messages a day. There is no way they have time to go through them all, especially since the majority of guys send really boring messages or super creepy ones.

Also, never get fixated on a particular girl online. You should spend maximum 2 minutes on her profile then send your message. To be honest, I just send out copy/paste messages and only actually look at the girl's profile if she replies. It makes it much less stressful and disappointing that way.
 

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
Yes, that's the thing about online dating. Many people think of it as an extension of a club or coffee shop or whatever. They pick and choose the girl they like the most and go for her, then get upset and disappointed if she doesn't reply.

Online dating is nothing like chatting up girls in person. It is extremely impersonal until you actually get a decent conversation going. You should be sending at least 10 messages a day, just keep pumping out messages to ANY girl, it doesn't matter if she isn't amazing, just keep sending them out and eventually you will get some replies, then try set up a date from those.

Bear in mind, there are countless guys all messaging the same girls. Girls receive on average 100 messages a day. There is no way they have time to go through them all, especially since the majority of guys send really boring messages or super creepy ones.

Also, never get fixated on a particular girl online. You should spend maximum 2 minutes on her profile then send your message. To be honest, I just send out copy/paste messages and only actually look at the girl's profile if she replies. It makes it much less stressful and disappointing that way.

But I'm picky as hell :(
 
Yes, that's the thing about online dating. Many people think of it as an extension of a club or coffee shop or whatever. They pick and choose the girl they like the most and go for her, then get upset and disappointed if she doesn't reply.

Online dating is nothing like chatting up girls in person. It is extremely impersonal until you actually get a decent conversation going. You should be sending at least 10 messages a day, just keep pumping out messages to ANY girl, it doesn't matter if she isn't amazing, just keep sending them out and eventually you will get some replies, then try set up a date from those.

Bear in mind, there are countless guys all messaging the same girls. Girls receive on average 100 messages a day. There is no way they have time to go through them all, especially since the majority of guys send really boring messages or super creepy ones.

Also, never get fixated on a particular girl online. You should spend maximum 2 minutes on her profile then send your message. To be honest, I just send out copy/paste messages and only actually look at the girl's profile if she replies. It makes it much less stressful and disappointing that way.

I don't understand. I don't want someone amazing?

I signed up for OK Cupid. I'm pretty disappointed in the selection. Only 1 girl has caught my eye in my area. Sent her a message and no reply. My visitor list says she has visited my page. Guess she didn't like what she read.
 

Darklord

Banned
I don't understand. I don't want someone amazing?

He means don't be too picky. Send messages to the amazing girls but also branch out and message the not as amazing but still nice looking women. Don't only pick the smoking hot ones because you have a tiny chance of being successful with them.
 
More specifically to your situation... bacon

Are you really willing to put up with her being grounded for.... 6 months?! Really? Who the fuck has ever been grounded for 6 months?

If it's true... that means 6 months of nothing... since she lives far away and it's not like you can meet her at school for lunch or anything...

Logistically, it's impossible. But she's grounded and having a friend over? Wat?

I'd be trying to justify it to myself in your situation. I've done it many times in the past, not the exact situation, but various similar things. If she refuses to meet up with you when you're travelling to where she is, then well, maybe that's your answer right there.
Yeah I think it is over. I don't want it to be over but this whole situation is just fucked up. I texted her and after some small talk there was a silence... she wanted me to say something so I did and she just completely ignored my text. Her responses are cold, hasn't told me that she loves me back and she also doesn't want to skype.
 

Darklord

Banned
After signing up like a week ago I started sending a few kisses and messages off a few days ago and I got my first reply today. She's cute too. I know, it's just a reply but a small victory is still a victory none the less. Let's see how this pans out.
 
Looks like a good profile, the right balance. Mines pretty much straight up goofy but thats my personality so im not gonna change it and be someone im not. I have a couple of good convos going but i havent met anyone off there yet. I came close though (I got invited over on christmas day but i don't own a vehicle)

ps i'll show up as perving your profile since i was logged in hahaha!

Thanks for the compliment. It actually wasnt that difficult to write, and so far it's gotten a lot of attention from the ladies. I've started three convos based purely on how much girls were humored by my profile, so I think I'm doing something right. The cute geeky girl and I seem to be on the same wavelength as far as flirting, the importance of proper grammar, and our mutual hatred of macroni and cheese is concerned. I told her I was covered in mocha syrup after work last night, and she told me, "I bet you taste delicious. ;)"

Still talking to other girls of course, but I've taken a liking to this one.

And don't worry about perving on my profile. From the looks of it, you and everybody else. Lol
 
OK guys, how does one practice lasting "longer" during sex?

At times, I can just "go" right away. Like, it's in and BAM! I have to take it out.... So, what are some tips for more stamina?

(and I think it has to do that I watch porn daily - but I'm willing to make that sacrifice if needed)

Learn how to eat pussy and make sure your jaw muscles are strong enough...if you can make her cum twice before you've even put your cock inside her, then it won't matter how long you last, she's already done. You could last 30 seconds and she won't even care, in her mind you're amazing.
 

Chinner

Banned
OK guys, how does one practice lasting "longer" during sex?

At times, I can just "go" right away. Like, it's in and BAM! I have to take it out.... So, what are some tips for more stamina?

(and I think it has to do that I watch porn daily - but I'm willing to make that sacrifice if needed)

get a friend to join in. so when you're about to cum just pull out and let your friend take over so you can regain some control before swapping again.
 
Yes, that's the thing about online dating. Many people think of it as an extension of a club or coffee shop or whatever. They pick and choose the girl they like the most and go for her, then get upset and disappointed if she doesn't reply.

Online dating is nothing like chatting up girls in person. It is extremely impersonal until you actually get a decent conversation going. You should be sending at least 10 messages a day, just keep pumping out messages to ANY girl, it doesn't matter if she isn't amazing, just keep sending them out and eventually you will get some replies, then try set up a date from those.

Bear in mind, there are countless guys all messaging the same girls. Girls receive on average 100 messages a day. There is no way they have time to go through them all, especially since the majority of guys send really boring messages or super creepy ones.

Also, never get fixated on a particular girl online. You should spend maximum 2 minutes on her profile then send your message. To be honest, I just send out copy/paste messages and only actually look at the girl's profile if she replies. It makes it much less stressful and disappointing that way.
Man. This place has just been littered with some awful-ass advice since the second OT.

There's nothing wrong with being picky and taking you're time. Going the copy/paste shotgun method is as stupid as it gets. It's disingenuine to yourself and to the people you're messaging.
 
Damn this is embarrassing but I've gotta ask:

Whats everyone think about acne and dating?

Usually my skin is pretty good but I do get the occasional pimple every now and then. And just the other day I got some massive one thats really red and under the skin.

I was planning to meet up with my gf early this week for lunch but I think ill make up some excuse so I wont untill after its healed.

I feel kind of self conscious about this kinda thing. I dont want her to see me like that.
 

Minamu

Member
Damn this is embarrassing but I've gotta ask:

Whats everyone think about acne and dating?

Usually my skin is pretty good but I do get the occasional pimple every now and then. And just the other day I got some massive one thats really red and under the skin.

I was planning to meet up with my gf early this week for lunch but I think ill make up some excuse so I wont untill after its healed.

I feel kind of self conscious about this kinda thing. I dont want her to see me like that.
Only a problem if you think it's a problem. If you're self-conscious about, she'll notice that. I had one on my neck this Friday that I totally forgot about (and I really usually don't), so of course that one wasn't a problem. My coach even mistook it for a hickey. If I were you, and you've tried medicine for it, I wouldn't be making excuses for it. Own it instead. It's a part of you and if someone doesn't like it, fuck them, you know? :) Not that harsh of course, but you get the idea. Reminds me of this interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0HX8d3SKzA
 
Online dating is nothing like chatting up girls in person. It is extremely impersonal until you actually get a decent conversation going. You should be sending at least 10 messages a day, just keep pumping out messages to ANY girl, it doesn't matter if she isn't amazing, just keep sending them out and eventually you will get some replies, then try set up a date from those.
No offense to you Aurora but this is terrible advice in my opinion.

No one should focus that kind of attention on online dating, no one should put that amount of effort or time into it. I don't send messages to girls unless I'm replying to them. Sites like OKC will eventually filter people down if they're inactive on the site so popping on every other day or so and answering a question, playing with a quiz, or better yet throwing around a couple of 4/5 star ratings to girls popping up in your feed is necessary if you want to actually be seen but you never need to send a message, let alone something crazy like 10 per day. This kind of goes back to an old tried and true pick-up methodology - don't be too strong in your pursuit, in fact, don't really pursue girls at all... save your energy and let them come to you.

Seriously, sign up for the site, make a nice profile and play around with a few of the ratings and quizes and shit. Then just pop it open on your iPhone every once and a while and answer a couple of questions. If you're not getting messages from girls than continue to refine your profile/pictures until you do. If you're on the site and you see some girl's profile that you really relate to and you actually have something meaningful to say relating to her profile than only at that point should a message even be considered. The shotgun approach is a very wrong way to do things in almost every situation - online dating included.
 

~Kinggi~

Banned
No offense to you Aurora but this is terrible advice in my opinion.

No one should focus that kind of attention on online dating, no one should put that amount of effort or time into it. I don't send messages to girls unless I'm replying to them. Sites like OKC will eventually filter people down if they're inactive on the site so popping on every other day or so and answering a question, playing with a quiz, or better yet throwing around a couple of 4/5 star ratings to girls popping up in your feed is necessary if you want to actually be seen but you never need to send a message, let alone something crazy like 10 per day. This kind of goes back to an old tried and true pick-up methodology - don't be too strong in your pursuit, in fact, don't really pursue girls at all... save your energy and let them come to you.

Seriously, sign up for the site, make a nice profile and play around with a few of the ratings and quizes and shit. Then just pop it open on your iPhone every once and a while and answer a couple of questions. If you're not getting messages from girls than continue to refine your profile/pictures until you do. If you're on the site and you see some girl's profile that you really relate to and you actually have something meaningful to say relating to her profile than only at that point should a message even be considered. The shotgun approach is a very wrong way to do things in almost every situation - online dating included.
I have put into practice this method and it also doesnt work. Simply saying dont send messages and let the girls come to you is also bad advice. Unless you are a total stud, they will not message you. Ive been signed up for a little under a year. I visit frequently, answered a bunch of questions and have rated some girls. I've received a total of around 7 messages. 6 of those were from incredibly overweight and unattractive girls. Now i am a fit guy and i think i look decent in my photos. Even one of those girls opened her message with 'i know im not ever supposed to message guys on here but i made an exception'.

Game is fixed to be a man pursues activity and girls wont stray too far from that. The other messages i have gotten were from borderline retards that couldn't utter anything more than 2 words or so.
 
Damn this is embarrassing but I've gotta ask:

Whats everyone think about acne and dating?

Usually my skin is pretty good but I do get the occasional pimple every now and then. And just the other day I got some massive one thats really red and under the skin.

I was planning to meet up with my gf early this week for lunch but I think ill make up some excuse so I wont untill after its healed.

I feel kind of self conscious about this kinda thing. I dont want her to see me like that.

I went on a date with a giant band-aid on my face, it ended with a kiss and we dated further after that. Later that night I went out to the bar and had a hot girl grab me and grinding on me out of nowhere. Don't worry about it and you'll be fine.
 

Xun

Member
Speaking of messages I got this message from some girl from India today:

Heya! Would you teach me how to be good at being me? ;)
The hell? Ha.

Honestly I may just get rid of my account, since I don't bother using it.
 
Unrelated to my own romantic escapades, but I am becoming quite the wingman for one of my friends at work. She's had a crush on this dude who is somewhat of a regular for a while, but knew next to nothing about him besides the fact that they both love True Blood.

Last night he came in while I was making drinks and she was in the back on break. I quickly popped my head in back and sing-songed "GUESS WHO'S HERE!" I was making his drink and making conversation, and after I brought up my recent car troubles, he mentioned that he worked at the Jaguar dealership nearby. She comes out from the back all dolled up, and after they chat for a bit I mention to him that she's been looking for a new car herself. He invited her to test drive Jaguars with him sometime this week, and after he left she practically jumped into my arms and thanked me. Not exactly a real date, but it's a start, and the dude seems pretty legit.

Gotta say I'm quite proud of myself right now. My future as a wingman looks bright.
 

soultron

Banned
Unrelated to my own romantic escapades, but I am becoming quite the wingman for one of my friends at work. She's had a crush on this dude who is somewhat of a regular for a while, but knew next to nothing about him besides the fact that they both love True Blood.

Last night he came in while I was making drinks and she was in the back on break. I quickly popped my head in back and sing-songed "GUESS WHO'S HERE!" I was making his drink and making conversation, and after I brought up my recent car troubles, he mentioned that he worked at the Jaguar dealership nearby. She comes out from the back all dolled up, and after they chat for a bit I mention to him that she's been looking for a new car herself. He invited her to test drive Jaguars with him sometime this week, and after he left she practically jumped into my arms and thanked me. Not exactly a real date, but it's a start, and the dude seems pretty legit.

Gotta say I'm quite proud of myself right now. My future as a wingman looks bright.

Thank goodness the dude wasn't clueless and actually went for it.
 
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose...

I lost today, here is the brief story.

Coworker for 3 years, great friendship, always sexual tension. She helps me out a lot at my new job. She is from out of state. December 2011 I stay with her at her parent's in her hometown during my December road trip. We hold hands and cuddle while she shows me the city's historic center. I only stay for a day though.

I come back, and think that it could be a great idea that we date especially after finding that she is not indifferent towards me. She arrives from Christmas vacation and goes to my office to say hi and have breakfast. She flakes for a week on different plans we had together, but as still friends I don't think about it much. She accepts going out for dinner with me last week.

I take her to dinner. I pay (I know this is frown upon while in a first date, but you have to remember that she is also a friend so I had to make it clear this was a date). She kisses me goodbye not in the mouth but very very close (lips kind of touching) I grab her hand. Things while not epicly well, are going steady. I see her at a coworkers party on that weekend and she ignores me. I invite her on Sunday and she says she can't.

Things started to get weird at work come Monday. She stops inviting me to eat (like we always used to do) and she decides to go with another group. She starts making this out of place comments that hint that she has some resentment or lack of respect towards me. I walk it out thinking it's my mind playing tricks on me.

Then she turns it on to 11. I used to be able to walk into her lab and talk to everybody like it's my house. Now she excuses herself for having a lot of work. I am pissed off.

I just invited her to go get Ice Cream (bitches love ice cream), she says She'd love to but can't because she is about to eat.

And thus a great friendship and a potential relationship ended. I think she lost more in the end
 

castlegar

Member
So I've had some good success from POF and OKC, thought I'd share some things I've picked up. Basic stuff, but it's always good to keep in mind

- If you're messaging a girl and she's not reciprocating in asking questions about you, drop her
- A phone call before meeting isn't really necessary, and I'd say it's a bit more intrusive than just going out. Just text beforehand instead, however...
- Don't text too much. I've run into the problem of getting to know everything about someone through texting before a first date. You run out of things to say and ask about. Keep it clean and too the point, maybe some general riff-raff if the time between when you exchange numbers and your first meeting is more than a day or two
- Try and refrain from the mindset of getting a girlfriend. If anything, this is a more direct way of getting your foot in the door. You have a life, they a have a life. If you really like her and she likes you back, things will eventually fall into place. Don't be clingy (just be confident, as mentioned)
- The most effective way to get a response is just simply a personalized message. Don't talk about yourself (unless it's specific to the question, but still keep it minimal), and maybe just throw your name down at the end. Too much information right off the bat is intimidating. Example message:

Subject line: Hey there! Peru?
Message:
I saw you went to Peru! Mondo jealous. What was your favorite part of the trip?

I'm Michael, by the by. Cheers!


Anyway, that's my two cents.
 

Bladenic

Member
Alright GAF I have a question. There's a girl who is really into me, and I like her too. The thing is, I don't know if I wanna be in a relationship right now. I'm a sophomore in college, and I'm in a fraternity. We have a ton of socials with all the sororities on campus and I dunno if I wanna be tied down during these events. And I've been thinking about it, and I'm not 100% sure that I wanna date her. Should I just keep it up like we're going now, going on a few dates and hooking up on weekends, or should I make it clear that I don't want a relationship? She's in a sorority too so I feel like if something happens and she ends up hating me, it'll give me bad blood with some of her sisters too obviously. I mean, I like her, she's fun and pretty cool about most things, but since I'm not 100% I want to date her, I just feel it'd be best not to. Any advice?
 

Snakeyes

Member
Alright GAF I have a question. There's a girl who is really into me, and I like her too. The thing is, I don't know if I wanna be in a relationship right now. I'm a sophomore in college, and I'm in a fraternity. We have a ton of socials with all the sororities on campus and I dunno if I wanna be tied down during these events. And I've been thinking about it, and I'm not 100% sure that I wanna date her. Should I just keep it up like we're going now, going on a few dates and hooking up on weekends, or should I make it clear that I don't want a relationship? She's in a sorority too so I feel like if something happens and she ends up hating me, it'll give me bad blood with some of her sisters too obviously. I mean, I like her, she's fun and pretty cool about most things, but since I'm not 100% I want to date her, I just feel it'd be best not to. Any advice?

If you're having second thoughts about being tied down then it's usually not a good idea to escalate the relationship.
 

kid ness

Member
Just got back from a fun weekend of snowboarding in the mountains with a bunch of friends, it was awesome. I knew everyone there, except for this girl who showed up a bit after us, who's good friends with my buddy. She looked real cute, even in snowboarding pants. In the first few minutes we talked, we had great chemistry and I knew there was something there.

After snowboarding all day we went back to my buddys house to drink. We were all downstairs drinking and after a while she went up for a bit. After about ten minutes I went upstairs to her bedroom. After flirting all night, I went up to her room and we hooked up.

It was weird though, it wasn't like normal hook ups. I had just met this girl, but there was so much passion involved, more than I've ever had in a one-night stand type of thing. It felt like we had known each other forever, when we actually knew each other for about twelve hours. It was like we were in a relationship and had skipped all of the getting to know each other bit.

In the morning, I thought it was going to be awkward, but it wasn't. It still felt natural, and I really like this girl. She calls me on my shit and stands up for herself, and is just fun to be around. When we said goodbye for the weekend, we kissed.

Anyway, my question is this. I want to ask her out -- not to be my girlfriend or anything, but just to get lunch to see if the connection is still there. I've never had something spring from a random hookup like this, I'm unsure of how to go about asking her. I was thinking something along the lines of "hey, you seem like a really cool girl. Let's grab coffee on Tuesday, it'll be fun. Maybe as much fun as the weekend." Or something like that. Any input is truly appreciated GAF, thanks again for this awesome thread.
 
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