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[Dzab]

well...you care that they care. that is even worse.

That's true, I care that they care because it's just difficult to avoid this when it's all over the place, you know? I don't want to care myself but it's hard when annoying people keep yapping back and forth.
It used to be, 'Sonic is better' 'no Mario is better'
Now it's 'my company made this many sales' 'yeah well your company is firing a person. It's doomed.'

i guess I'm just disappointed? I don't know lol

 

[Bartski]

the cancellation of Factions

 

[Disco Dave]

Do you think we will get a free game out of Sony for being so frustrating and disrespectful?

 

[graywolf323]

he’s going on Colt Eastwood’s podcast to among other things discuss Spider-Man

edit: anyone wanna bet that it’s going to largely be a discussion centered around the narrative the Xbox evangelists have been pushing that it’s the buggiest game of the year?

 

[kaizenkko]

Well, the part about Jim Ryan is not exactly a leak, everyone knows that. Maybe I should create my own Twitter and spread obvious things saying those are "leaks.

 

[Katatonic]

he’s going on Colt Eastwood’s podcast to among other things discuss Spider-Man

edit: anyone wanna bet that it’s going to largely be a discussion centered around the narrative the Xbox evangelists have been pushing that it’s the buggiest game of the year?

Eewwww

 

[LostDonkey]

Ken Kutaragi put his willy in the disk drive expansion slot

 

[SEGAvangelist]

he’s going on Colt Eastwood’s podcast to among other things discuss Spider-Man

edit: anyone wanna bet that it’s going to largely be a discussion centered around the narrative the Xbox evangelists have been pushing that it’s the buggiest game of the year?

It wasn't. Colt tried to steer it in that direction and Jaffe pretty much said he'll take a few bugs if it means yearly amazing releases from Insomniac. He did get to talk a little bit more about the Connie stuff, but nothing new.

 

[Hypereides]

Shawn Layden escorted out of the building?

Hermen was pro "cutting" of Japanese studios? Seriously? Then there's more reason to be opposed to his current position.

Its no wonder the old spirit of PS is kinda diverging from what they used to be. Now its getting clearer as to why.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Sounds like FUD and BS

GG and Kojima are tight. Why would Hermen want to cut them?

 

[kaizenkko]

Sounds like FUD and BS

GG and Kojima are tight. Why would Hermen want to cut them?

-The cancellation of Factions made a lot of PlayStation studios upset causing internal turmoil. Between that and the GAAS direction, Sony blamed it on Connie Booth and fired her.

People beleaving in this bullshit are just dumb. Why would "a lot of Playstation studios" being upset about a game cancel on Naughty Dog?

 

[Kenpachii]

-The cancellation of Factions made a lot of PlayStation studios upset causing internal turmoil. Between that and the GAAS direction, Sony blamed it on Connie Booth and fired her.

People beleaving in this bullshit are just dumb. Why would "a lot of Playstation studios" being upset about a game cancel on Naughty Dog?

Maybe they worked on the project.

 

[bender]

Why would "a lot of Playstation studios" being upset about a game cancel on Naughty Dog?

I'm not saying I believe these rumors, but if ND is failing to release games, maybe other studios are being asked to pick up the slack or having their development cycles cut short in order to fill in the gaps.

 

[kaizenkko]

Maybe they worked on the project.

Santa Monica, Insomniac and Sucker Punch have work at TLOU Factions? Don't makes sense.

Altrought, I doubt they are just cancel a game who was in development at NAUGHTY DOG for years.

 

[Jigsaah]

Nix it if a repost

 

[ManaByte]

Well, the part about Jim Ryan is not exactly a leak, everyone knows that. Maybe I should create my own Twitter and spread obvious things saying those are "leaks.

There was a post on 4Chan that said Ryan was fired as well and they’re letting him “retire” to save face.

 

[ahtlas7]

Those thighs are absolutely exciting

Popcorn fed

 

[NickFire]

There was a post on 4Chan that said Ryan was fired as well and they’re letting him “retire” to save face.

It would make sense for both sides to save face if he was pushed out. Last thing Sony wants is for people to think they lost faith in his approach. Games take way too long to develop to quickly pivot direction.

 

[ElCasual]

Hulst is a HUGE DICKHEAD.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

is nice to see Sony having their ass on fire. Really bad PR since that awful showcase.

If what David "I don't do clickbait" Jaffe is saying is true

i wonder if:

A) Are they having issues in paradise?
B)Are they are holding on?
C) Are they just pivoting in messaging?

then A seems more likely. (with a sprinkle of C)

Now, this is when the track record is relevant. Sony has been able to quickly fix their internal bullshit. So, theoretically speaking we shouldn't have a Redfall, Crackdown 3 Or Driveclub type of disaster. At worst, even more time between First Party releases.

But the interesting aspect is that, i don't think sony can't drop the GaaS initiative at all. They have to deliver variety in their first party portfolio. They need to figure out that pipeline.

 

[Dick Jones]

he’s going on Colt Eastwood’s podcast to among other things discuss Spider-Man

edit: anyone wanna bet that it’s going to largely be a discussion centered around the narrative the Xbox evangelists have been pushing that it’s the buggiest game of the year?

We finally found the sad, frustrating, potentially super disrespectful news. Jaffe on Cunt Eastwood's show. I thought better of Jaffe, this is fucking sad.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

-The cancellation of Factions made a lot of PlayStation studios upset causing internal turmoil. Between that and the GAAS direction, Sony blamed it on Connie Booth and fired her.

People beleaving in this bullshit are just dumb. Why would "a lot of Playstation studios" being upset about a game cancel on Naughty Dog?

Wasn't there a study released in the last few years saying "Fake news spreads 5x faster than the truth on social media"?

Gaming discourse leans overwhelmingly towards single player gamers who despise GAAS. That means they're susceptible to click on, and believe, fake narratives about GAAS being bad / a failure.

We seek out information we want to believe and people like Jason Schreier + David Jaffe know how to frame things that are technically true, but framed dishonestly.

I'm sure there are people in PlayStation who don't like the GAAS direction, but who, what percentage, and how does that compare to the people who don't like the single player, or VR, or Japanese, or quirky, or big IP direction we've seen PlayStation pursue over the years?

That's where journalism comes in and this industry is devoid of that.

 

[hyperbertha]

Hermen was pro "cutting" of Japanese studios? Seriously? Then there's more reason to be opposed to his current position.

Its no wonder the old spirit of PS is kinda diverging from what they used to be. Now its getting clearer as to why.

When you shift leadership from Japan to the west, there will be a massive shift in culture. All this was predicted years ago.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Said this in Discord channels and I know some are still here that I talked with this about that Layden was 100% escorted out of the building and had to be restrained at one point

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Post Up has to be one of the stupidest people on Twitter . . . which is quite a feat.

I hate when he's on any podcast I listen to cause all i hear from him is the swirling of Phil's phallus in his fat ass.

 

[nowhat]

There was a post on 4Chan that said Ryan was fired as well and they’re letting him “retire” to save face.

4chan? Oh, that changes everything.

 

[nial]

Most of this sounds fucking stupid, ESPECIALLY Hermen's part. I love how they say Japanese studios in plural, was Polyphony Digital shut down too? It does not look like so.

 

[ulantan]

Said this in Discord channels and I know some are still here that I talked with this about that Layden was 100% escorted out of the building and had to be restrained at one point

He was trying to approve locoroco 3 they had to drag him out of the building.

 

[kaizenkko]

All the talk about Japan Studios recently is tiring. Those guys don't develop a single great game by themselves in the last 10 years, and Sony still have given chance after chance for them. The best work from Japan Studios are being a support studio for third-party devs, and guess what, Sony already have xDev for that.

 

[Chronicle]

When was factions canceled? Did I comment on that? Can't remember.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

We finally found the sad, frustrating, potentially super disrespectful news. Jaffe on Cunt Eastwood's show. I thought better of Jaffe, this is fucking sad.

I get the Colt hate... I do... but this dude lives rent-free in some heads here.

 

[rkofan87]

We finally found the sad, frustrating, potentially super disrespectful news. Jaffe on Cunt Eastwood's show. I thought better of Jaffe, this is fucking sad.

why the hate for eastwood do not know whe he is

 

[Dick Jones]

why the hate for eastwood do not know whe he is

I wish I was as lucky. Toxic. Avoid like the plague.

 

[rkofan87]

I wish I was as lucky. Toxic. Avoid like the plague.

toxic how is he a sjw?

 

[SEGAvangelist]

why the hate for eastwood do not know whe he is

He likes Xbox and makes some PlayStation criticisms in bad faith. He's not quite DreamcastGuy level annoying (fake SEGA fan), but he clearly rustles some jimmies around here (more than any other forum I've been to).

 

[rkofan87]

He likes Xbox and makes some PlayStation criticisms in bad faith. He's not quite DreamcastGuy level annoying (fake SEGA fan), but he clearly rustles some jimmies around here (more than any other forum I've been to).

thank you dc guy like yeah no thanks.

 

[Dick Jones]

toxic how is he a sjw?

He is a cunt. He epitomises everything wrong in gaming "journalism". Lies, spreads bullshit and cries when called out. Watch almost anything else.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

He is a cunt. He epitomises everything wrong in gaming "journalism". Lies, spreads bullshit and cries when called out. Watch almost anything else.

I don't think he claims to be a journalist. He's obviously just an Xbox hype guy.

 

[elcapitano]

Santa Monica, Insomniac and Sucker Punch have work at TLOU Factions? Don't makes sense.

Altrought, I doubt they are just cancel a game who was in development at NAUGHTY DOG for years.

Naughty Dog have done enough for Sony over the years that they should be allowed release their vision for their game. Not Bungies vision who are just in the door.

The Bungie criticism wasn't even that the game was bad. Just that they don't think it'll hold a long term player base.

Newsflash 99% of multiplayer games can't do that. That's not a reason to cancel a game. At most delay it.

Even still I'd rather a great game I play for two months then a game where the aim is for it is to last forever. It's an unsustainable aim and only happens with one in a million multiplayer games.

 

[Thief1987]

All the talk about Japan Studios recently is tiring. Those guys don't develop a single great game by themselves in the last 10 years, and Sony still have given chance after chance for them. The best work from Japan Studios are being a support studio for third-party devs, and guess what, Sony already have xDev for that.

Astrobot? Last guardian?

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

The Bungie criticism wasn't even that the game was bad. Just that they don't think it'll hold a long term player base.

Newsflash 99% of multiplayer games can't do that. That's not a reason to cancel a game.

Can you name any multiplayer games, outside of traditional CoD and sports games, that couldn't hang onto long term player bases and were considered successful?

You can't be embracing the Live Service era and waste resources on multiplayer games that fizzle.

 

[Negotiator101]

We finally found the sad, frustrating, potentially super disrespectful news. Jaffe on Cunt Eastwood's show. I thought better of Jaffe, this is fucking sad.

What's with the anger towards Eastwood Dick?

 

[Dick Jones]

What's with the anger towards Eastwood Dick?

It's not anger. Just facts my boy.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Said this in Discord channels and I know some are still here that I talked with this about that Layden was 100% escorted out of the building and had to be restrained at one point

Damn. That is wild. I wonder why he was canned?

 

[Three]

-The cancellation of Factions made a lot of PlayStation studios upset causing internal turmoil. Between that and the GAAS direction, Sony blamed it on Connie Booth and fired her.

People beleaving in this bullshit are just dumb. Why would "a lot of Playstation studios" being upset about a game cancel on Naughty Dog?

"We don't like the GaaS direction but we're so angry that you cancelled the GaaS game!"

 

[Negotiator101]

Seems like it's a bit of a shit show over at PS studios right now. Given the mediocre last Showcase we all knew things weren't going smoothly. I mentioned it before but the waste of talent at Naughty Dog for the past 3 years is unbelievable.

 

[Oof85]

Naughty Dog has a hold on people like no one else. It is one of those studios that defines a console generation, and they are so afraid of ND, always has been. It's so funny.

This is definitely a more recent positioning for ND. When I say recent, I mean ps3 onwards.

Before, they were definitely a good studio but their titles weren't worldshakers til they landed on Uncharted 2.

Let's not revisionist history them.

 

[Heisenberg007]

This is definitely a more recent positioning for ND. When I say recent, I mean ps3 onwards.

Before, they were definitely a good studio but their titles weren't worldshakers til they landed on Uncharted 2.

Let's not revisionist history them.

I agree. ND has become a different studio altogether since PS3, when they released Uncharted 2. Now they are capable of making massive waves in the industry with each game release: Uncharted 3, Uncharted 4, Uncharted LL, TLOU, TLOU 2, TLOU remake.

All those games have defined their respective generations and showcased a huge gulf between ND and their competitors.

 

[StealthGoblin]

That's a huge downplay. The guy is an out and out tool who lies.

I don't think he claims to be a journalist. He's obviously just an Xbox hype guy.

Is that what we are calling that variety of cunt these days? Wow. Hype guys shouldn't lie, deliberately misinform etc.

 

[StealthGoblin]

"We don't like the GaaS direction but we're so angry that you cancelled the GaaS game!"

I do get it to an extent (if it's true). If I'm working on a GAAS game and Sony's prestige studio that already has multiplayer experience has their GAAS game put on ice or canned then that's going to set alarm bells ringing.