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[Hip Hop]

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

eh

I don't think those sales have anything to do with DRM.

 

[Plumpbiscuit]

M&B Bannerlord will be using Denuvo? There goes my purchase...

 

[Kurt Russell]

Those frontline pirates won't still buy it anyway they'll just wait or get it another way or even not bother with the game at all so it's pointless

That's not true. I live in Argentina, and people here pirate EVERYTHING yet the ones with high end stuff will buy games if they go more than a week uncracked. Of course there are some holdouts who will never pay a penny for a game, but there's a ton of people who will, if it's the only way to get their hands on the new hotness.
I imagine that this is even more true when you consider other markets with better economies (our economy is crap, and publishers charge US$ 60 for new games anyways)

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

I agree that DRM isn't the best thing in the world, but Denuvo isn't hurting my ability to play games right now. It's not as intrusive as past solutions were, so I'd rather have that, than devs losing profit because their games get pirated on launch day.

Also, that image is a joke. You are comparing games that had tons of discounts (and have been available for years) against new stuff that barely had any discounts...

 

[BigEmil]

Someone compiled a list of all game devs and games likely to use Denuvo here up to now.
Copy paste:

Updated summary of names that came up.

Notable:
Jun Matsumoto of CAPCOM Japan and Jon Airhart of CAPCOM USA as well as Tim Roy from CAPCOM talking about a "PC game title in 2016 for x64 for Win 10 UWP"
Vishnu Vijayakumar of TaleWorlds Entertainment making Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord
Graeme Jennings and Ed Kalletta of Microsoft about Halo Wars
Jan Newger from Google
Dominic Matthews from Ninja Theory on Hellblade
Nicolas Sérouart of Dontnod Entertainment about a demo of a game
Andy Messner of Rooster Teeth about RWBY: Grimm Eclipse
Matthew Labunka from Atari about an upcoming Unity 5 game

Indies, Literally Whos and Misc:
Christian Grunwald from Astragon about their Simulator games
Ivan Belousov of Hype Train Digital The Wild Eight game
Joon Park of Lanze Games making Pixel Princess Blitz game
Evren Ozguner of Old Moustache Gameworks making the No70: Eye of Basir game
Gustavo Rios making the Enigma Prison game
Oleh of 2ByteStudios making the Mars Citizen game
Thomas Truax from Vorpal Games
Martin Wright about a "new special needs game which has been developed in Unity"
Ed French of GameSessions
Michael on the Life is Hard Game
Christopher Redden on the Warring States Tactics Game
Benjamin Villhauer from GameForge
Ray Tran of CCP Games about a Q1 2016 game
Rolf Moren of Zordix AB
Nihad Gondžo of MAD Softworks
David Woo of Codemasters
Uwe Roth of Kalyspo Media
Kevin of Bulkhead Interactive
Evan Icenbice of 505 Games about ADR1FT
Peter Armstrong of Encore Games
Kuba Trzebiński of Playway about Car Mechanic Simulator

Also, Rockstar, EA, Take-Two Interactive, Microsoft, Warner Brothers, Tiberius Films, KMS, Lionsgate, Beachbody, Gamersgate and BFI Films Forever show up in the images.

 

[LelouchZero]

Damn, this leak is pretty bad, a bunch of emails have gotten out!

 

[pretty done]

Games that were in Humble Bundle have sold more than games that haven't been in Humble Bundle. Wow, Denuvo sucks.

 

[TB12]

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

Comon its just old games vs new games..

old games are cheaper, so more users no?

New games is expansiver so people wait to buy, less users?

DRM got nothing to do with it...

 

[GeNoMe]

Posting Phone numbers and e-mail addresses? This isn't 4chan you guys, at least censor out the names and just show the domain names when copy pasting in this thread?

 

[orichalcos]

https://revolt.group/denuvo/

 

[Mifec]

BF1 got cracked today too.

Bad day for Denuvo.

 

[TheTrain]

Copy paste

It seems that I'll avoid a lot of D1 purchase from here on

 

[BigEmil]

Posting Phone numbers and e-mail addresses? This isn't 4chan you guys, at least censor out the names and just show the domain names when copy pasting in this thread?

Didn't think of that editing now the emails

 

[yatesl]

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Dead Rising 4.

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

I'm not Mr DRM or anything, but that's a terrible picture to use. Comparing the sales numbers of 4 ~ 10 year old games vs their recent counterparts? Of course the former sales will be higher, especially after a number of deep discounts and bundles.

 

[pretty done]

BF1 got cracked today too.

Bad day for Denuvo.

What is the point of pirating an online FPS like this? Can you actually play it online?

 

[Tecnniqe]

https://revolt.group/denuvo/

 

[Mifec]

What is the point of pirating an online FPS like this? Can you actually play it online?

It has a SP campaign, and while it's trash I'm sure some people are gonna pirate it for that. As for playing it online, I know people play cracked steam MP games online, I have no idea about Origin.

 

[opricnik]

What is the point of pirating an online FPS like this? Can you actually play it online?

It has Single Player campaign you know that right? A lot people who pirated this is happy with their campaigns i suppose considering FPS games with campaigns are one the most downloaded pirated games.

Crysis,Battlefield 3-4,CoD etc..

 

[GoldandBlue]

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

lol come on. I'm not a fan of Denuvo either but this image is dumb. I haven't played any of those games on the left (besides Limbo) but own them all thanks to Humble Bundles.

 

[BigEmil]

whoever leaked this missed the chance to pad the list out with some fake game announcements beforehand

Now could be a chance for some troll leaks.

Also can add Harmonix to the list:

sendmail 2016-02-18 03:51:19
array (
'name' => 'SNIPPED',
'email' => 'SNIPPED@harmonixmusic.com',
'phone' => '',
'message' => 'Hi,
I\'d be interested in discussing usage of Denuvo Anti-Tamper software in future Harmonix games. Would it be possible to get some more information? If you\'ll have any people at GDC, it\'d be great to have a meeting there!
Thanks,
Mike Fitzgerald
CTO - Harmonix Music Systems',
'captcha' => 'alHW8s',
)

Warhammer possible?

>'name' => 'SNIPPED',
>'email' => 'snipped@relic.com',
>'phone' => '+snipped',
>'message' => 'Hello!

>My name is SNIPPED and I\'m the lead server programmer at Relic Entertainment. I was wondering if I can get more info in regards to your anti-tamper solution? Also would it be useful in protecting against map hacks in a game that is deterministic?


Warhammer 40.000: Dawn of War 3 confirmed for using denuevo

 

[Admodieus]

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

This is such a dumb image. Years of Steam sales and Humble Bundles result in a higher number of owners for older games than newer games.

 

[Mifec]

Can you people stop quoting the whole image?

Yes it's dumb and represents nothing, but please just remove the image when you quote the post.

 

[Rellik]

BF1 got cracked today too.

Bad day for Denuvo.

I doubt they care about that. It clearly did its job if it only just got cracked today.

 

[justsomeguy]

Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

Wut?!

Oh yeah that bit of the dev process where they drop 20% of the fun so they can fit in the drm.

 

[Aselith]

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

0% of those comparisons are fair.

 

[Vital Tundra]

Red Dead better come day 1 on PC. None of this waiting a generation and then some.

 

[Prophet Steve]

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.


http://is2.4chan.org/v/1486313985450.png[IMG][/QUOTE]

I for one am extremely disappointed they went for such intrusive DRM in Anno 2205 after only focusing on the game in Anno 2070.

 

[GreenMonkey]

That's not true. I live in Argentina, and people here pirate EVERYTHING yet the ones with high end stuff will buy games if they go more than a week uncracked. Of course there are some holdouts who will never pay a penny for a game, but there's a ton of people who will, if it's the only way to get their hands on the new hotness.
I imagine that this is even more true when you consider other markets with better economies (our economy is crap, and publishers charge US$ 60 for new games anyways)

For every anecdotal person who buys it because they can't wait for a crack, there's one like me who won't touch a heavily DRMed game for any price.

 

[Yudoken]

So...
How much does Denuvo cost?
I've heard some numbers but I never saw official numbers.

That's what I'm interested in this leak.
Also I personally avoid most of the games with Denuvo.
They should put the money in the game (there's always something that would highly improve) instead of spending money on this.

 

[Prophet Steve]

For every anecdotal person who buys it because they can't wait for a crack, there's one like me who won't touch a heavily DRMed game for any price.

[citation needed]

 

[SomedayTheFire]

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

LMAO this is a tragic image. I can't believe you seriously posted this.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

I know their job is security of game software, but their own site isn't even better protected than that?

 

[Carlius]

What is the point of pirating an online FPS like this? Can you actually play it online?

see, for me it would be good. i bought the game, but i only bought it for the sp since i dont do multiplayer. so yes, there is a point for losers like me that play it only for the sp.

 

[Fdkn]

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

Steam is a DRM and you certainly don't know how game sales over time work.

 

[Fredrik]

Ouch.

Why is Denuvo so hated though? People decide to not buy games because they use Denuvo etc. I've only been gaming on PC for a few years but I've not noticed any problem at all so far. What am I missing?

 

[Tecnniqe]

Tragic image gets quoted so much I have to scroll so much my wheel lights up.

 

[60EffPeeEss]

I know their job is security of game software, but their own site isn't even better protected than that?

Not everyone at a company works on the same level.

 

[5taquitos]

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

One of the most useless images I've ever seen. If this is your argument, you need to rethink it.

 

[Spukc]

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

this has to be the dumbest list i have ever seen on this website.
this tells nothing.

denuvo should just stop with this so we can all pirate in peace right?

 

[pretty done]

It has Single Player campaign you know that right? A lot people who pirated this is happy with their campaigns i suppose considering FPS games with campaigns are one the most downloaded pirated games.

Crysis,Battlefield 3-4,CoD etc..

I mean I know it does but I didn't know people actually enjoyed them. Those people must have more free time than they do money if they're pirating Battlefield campaigns lol

 

[iskeledz]

Denuvo can go die in a fire.
The effects of all these shitty DRM schemes will be felt in 10-15 years.
Try to play a CD copy of Call of Duty 1 on Windows 10. That's right, you can't. In fact, you can't play any game that had SafeDisc DRM because Microsoft removed the driver. And there are some of those games you can't get digitally. Those would be 100% unplayable today on new Win10 PCs if they were never cracked.
CD Projekt has shown it's possible to sell games DRM-free and therefore any kind of DRM is 100% inexcusable and anti-consumer.

 

[Visualante2]

Not everyone at a company works on the same level.

They should have seen this coming given the field they are in and how many high profile hacks have taken place in games.

 

[funkystudent]

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.

Yes. This is totally the reason why Homefront The Revolution didnt sell well.

 

[60EffPeeEss]

They should have seen this coming given the field they are in and how many high profile hacks have taken place in games.

If all mistakes were learned from, we'd be in a utopia already. People are born to repeat the mistakes of the past. Its just the way it is.

Denuvo can go die in a fire.
The effects of all these shitty DRM schemes will be felt in 10-15 years.
Try to play a CD copy of Call of Duty 1 on Windows 10. That's right, you can't. In fact, you can't play any game that had SafeDisc DRM because Microsoft removed the driver. And there are some of those games you can't get digitally. Those would be 100% unplayable today on new Win10 PCs if they were never cracked.
CD Projekt has shown it's possible to sell games DRM-free and therefore any kind of DRM is 100% inexcusable and anti-consumer.

You have a pretty chronic misunderstanding of what Denuvo is. I don't necessarily agree with DRM, but Denuvo doesn't require any disc check or anything. Maybe read up on it and re-evaluate your opinion.

 

[Vital Tundra]

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Every Single one of those games have been on sale for pocket change for more than a couple years. Try harder dog.

 

[johancruijff]

Can someone quote that image another 10/15 times so the thread can die peacefully?

 

[Palculator]

I don't care what your assumptions made by, I hate all kinds of DRM and wont support with.
Simple.

Also I am gonna drop this image to here. Maybe devs should focus on their games and making better them instead using DRM techniques.


http://is2.4chan.org/v/1486313985450.png[IMG][/QUOTE]
I'm [I]shocked[/I] an image as stupid as this is embedded from 4chan. Gobsmacked!

 

[giant_frying_pan]

My dog ate my game's original source close and executable. Pls send kthx.

 

[Spukc]

Denuvo can go die in a fire.
The effects of all these shitty DRM schemes will be felt in 10-15 years.
Try to play a CD copy of Call of Duty 1 on Windows 10. That's right, you can't. In fact, you can't play any game that had SafeDisc DRM because Microsoft removed the driver. And there are some of those games you can't get digitally. Those would be 100% unplayable today on new Win10 PCs if they were never cracked.
CD Projekt has shown it's possible to sell games DRM-free and therefore any kind of DRM is 100% inexcusable and anti-consumer.

lol witcher 3 was nr 1 on every damn torrent site.
shame they didn't use denuvo
could have earned them a lot of money

 

[JaseC]

You have a pretty chronic misunderstanding of what Denuvo is. I don't necessarily agree with DRM, but Denuvo doesn't require any disc check or anything. Maybe read up on it and re-evaluate your opinion.

It is DRM, though, just to be clear, rather than merely an "anti-tamper" mechanism: it imposes an activation limit (which, granted, is practically a non-issue for most users), mandatory first-run online authentication and periodical online re-authentication.

 

[Ghostmaster]

Of all the bad things about that image, the most hilarious one is comparing Blood Dragon to Primal. Blood Dragon launched as a 15 dollar game.