Before anyone says AA is the same as it is on console, you have to remember that the game is running on machines that get 100+ FPS THUS making the AA a lot more snappier.
I have played both the ps4 beta and PC beta. The AA is way more snappier on the PC version due to the higher frame rate. The problem isn't keyboard users being shit on by controller users at times.. its more of the fact that people are able to emulate the same AA on a kb/mouse and it completely ruins the competitive aspect.
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/230326236
"- PVP with an uneven playing field feels bad. Not only does it make it more frustrating to lose ("I only lost because Bungie gives controller users free aimbots") it devalues winning ("I can't be sure if we won because I'm awesome, or because the other three players on my team are playing with controllers").
- It opens another vector for cheating. We're already seeing this with players who plug in controllers to add the aim assist to their M+KB play. You're going to have your hands full with people trying to cheat as it is, even if you find a way to track and ban this behavior it's going to be a constant game of cat-and-mouse as people continually discover ways to abuse the aimbot you yourselves added to the game. Why not avoid this headache altogether by disabling it in PVP?
- People will take PVP less seriously knowing there are sanctioned aimbots among the playerbase, and it will irreparably damage not only the engagement of your most ardent players (the competitively-minded who will stick it out between PVE releases) but if you have designs on making this an Esport, you can kiss those goodbye. The jokes at the expense of your game will be torrential.
I will say that I have no issue with Auto Aim existing in PVE. If it makes peoples' experience better with their control method of choice, I totally get it and I think it should be kept in the game.
This just doesn't make sense when applied to PVP, though. It's less fun than it could be, for everyone involved. It's gotta go. Speaking as a core gamer, I want to sink a bunch of time into getting good at the PVP in this game. But if it's cheapened in this way, the simple fact is I'm going to get bored and frustrated, and go back to one of the many FPSes already available which actually presents a legitimately competitive experience."
https://www.reddit.com/r/destiny2/comments/6wv1td/just_like_to_point_out_something_regarding_aim/
"There's a reason no competitive FPS has Aim Assist, it's not just because of "PC Master Race can't handle getting booked by controllers" which i see pop up every now and then. It's because people can literally get a free aimbot that is undetectable with a keyboard and mouse. It has NO place in PVP games."
https://www.pcgamesn.com/destiny-2/destiny-2-pc-controller-aim-assist
A user on reddit figured out how to emulate the aim assist on kb/m
One clip of the snap in action. First shot aiming at feet and snaps to head
Here is a new video showcasing how bad it is (lol @ 4:40)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-U0ZAPpIXY
Don't mind the title as its just a random persons vid that I came across.
I have played both the ps4 beta and PC beta. The AA is way more snappier on the PC version due to the higher frame rate. The problem isn't keyboard users being shit on by controller users at times.. its more of the fact that people are able to emulate the same AA on a kb/mouse and it completely ruins the competitive aspect.
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/230326236
"- PVP with an uneven playing field feels bad. Not only does it make it more frustrating to lose ("I only lost because Bungie gives controller users free aimbots") it devalues winning ("I can't be sure if we won because I'm awesome, or because the other three players on my team are playing with controllers").
- It opens another vector for cheating. We're already seeing this with players who plug in controllers to add the aim assist to their M+KB play. You're going to have your hands full with people trying to cheat as it is, even if you find a way to track and ban this behavior it's going to be a constant game of cat-and-mouse as people continually discover ways to abuse the aimbot you yourselves added to the game. Why not avoid this headache altogether by disabling it in PVP?
- People will take PVP less seriously knowing there are sanctioned aimbots among the playerbase, and it will irreparably damage not only the engagement of your most ardent players (the competitively-minded who will stick it out between PVE releases) but if you have designs on making this an Esport, you can kiss those goodbye. The jokes at the expense of your game will be torrential.
I will say that I have no issue with Auto Aim existing in PVE. If it makes peoples' experience better with their control method of choice, I totally get it and I think it should be kept in the game.
This just doesn't make sense when applied to PVP, though. It's less fun than it could be, for everyone involved. It's gotta go. Speaking as a core gamer, I want to sink a bunch of time into getting good at the PVP in this game. But if it's cheapened in this way, the simple fact is I'm going to get bored and frustrated, and go back to one of the many FPSes already available which actually presents a legitimately competitive experience."
https://www.reddit.com/r/destiny2/comments/6wv1td/just_like_to_point_out_something_regarding_aim/
"There's a reason no competitive FPS has Aim Assist, it's not just because of "PC Master Race can't handle getting booked by controllers" which i see pop up every now and then. It's because people can literally get a free aimbot that is undetectable with a keyboard and mouse. It has NO place in PVP games."
https://www.pcgamesn.com/destiny-2/destiny-2-pc-controller-aim-assist
DirtyMercy reports on Reddit that controller input will cause the game to add a lot of aim assistance. And we mean a lot: ”Believe it or not, it is VERY OP," says DirtyMercy. ”I was instantly landing nearly every shot by just swinging my joystick around and spamming aim/shoot."
The worst this would do in PvE is trivialise the challenge, but in PvP, the problems go much deeper. DirtyMercy says they were ”top of the board and won most games due to just wiping the enemy team."
So it seems the aim assist for controller input needs to be revised off the back of the PC beta, but as long as controllers get any aim assist at all, there's a second concern.
RandomedXY points out that controller spoofing/emulation would enable you to add this aim assist even while playing with a mouse and keyboard. Some input adapter hardware can do this, and Bungie can't do much to stop it. It may also be possible with controller emulation software provided it doesn't try to inject code directly into the Destiny 2 client; Bungie say Destiny 2 will block such code as part of a thorough approach to anti-cheat. (This prevents certain apps from interacting with Destiny 2, but any that don't rely on code insertion will work fine.)
A user on reddit figured out how to emulate the aim assist on kb/m
One clip of the snap in action. First shot aiming at feet and snaps to head