Ok. Yes the game could have been better at launch but feeling robbed after you got to play the game 1 year before someone else is silly.
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Destiny: The Taken King - Year 2 Reveal - Stream (Summary in OP)
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Ok. Yes the game could have been better at launch but feeling robbed after you got to play the game 1 year before someone else is silly.
I don't see how that's wrong.
Didn't they say to infuse weapons you need to dismantle them? So dismantling now would be a mistake.
CraigerGamer
Member
I wonder what the efficiency stat does? Its not like its how fast you can swing the sword because they have a speed stat. Maybe its a dice roll on how flush you hit an opponent and can deal maximum damage?Here's the sword details:
Doctoglethorpe
Member
Hammer time is brilliant. Idk wtf the warlock was doing but I'm down with it. Lol @ how horrible the hunter dance is though.
But you still shouldn't delete anything. Apparently the game is going to take everything on your character and inventory averaging it out into your new level
probably the "impact" stat for it's guard mode, in that how good it is at deflecting damage
You can only infuse Y2 gear with other Y2 gear so telling us to hold on to the Y1 stuff doesn't make sense if breaking it down after TTK release just gives us Y1 materials.
Probably how fast or how much ammo/energy is consumed from each swing.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Destiny is only an MMO when people need to use that label to justify some ridiculous design decision.
DrROBschiz
Member
Probably uses "energy" instead of ammo. Efficiency is probably how much energy it eats from the various actions it performs
I'm astounded there's people who still DON'T think Destiny is an MMO. It hits all the same design and release hallmarks of an MMO, it's just SCIENCE FANTASY SPACE GUNS instead of GENERIC FANTASY SPELLS.
That said, I'm super hype about all these changes. It's mostly UI and QoL, but I welcome it openly. Can't wait to see story and Strike stuff.
That said, I'm super hype about all these changes. It's mostly UI and QoL, but I welcome it openly. Can't wait to see story and Strike stuff.
Nah it's an mmo at all times.
Ryouji Gunblade
Member
Or you're just saying that all the MMO properties in Destiny are ridiculous.
It's like an mmo in the sense that it's designed around DLC and expansion. It's also like an MMO in that it receives regular updates.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Sure doesn't seem like it and the creators themselves didn't call it that so....
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Well, the fact that they didn't even think through how they would handle weapon upgrades from expansion to expansion is kind of crazy. I do feel that my time was wasted re-upgrading my exotics via Xur when in the second expansion, they just let you get it for free from the menu... something they should have just done in the first place.
I can see how someone would feel as if they were beta testing Destiny for free.
I mean aside from it being an fps and the creators saying it's not an mmo for the purpose of marketing, literally every element of the game has at least basic design nods to other mmorpgs. It's like people want to deny destiny being an mmorpg just so they can complain about it. Sounds familiar...
Yes and dgaf holds newbie raids every week
Yeah, they will stay open for business. Vault of Glass especially is worth of seeing and experiencing. You should hit up Destiny OT over in Community when looking for players to do some raids with.
Of course. They're staying the same, and people are always doing the old raids.
Doctoglethorpe
Member
Games like this are basically always in beta, at least in terms of gameplay mechanics.
Lol
Sure it doesn't. I've played a lot but seriously, you're just going to ignore the holiday lineup we got coming up for a dlc?
Sword Of Doom
Member
It seems like their philosophy used to be not to design a fun game but to design something that would hook people and make them grind forever so that they could sell expansions. i guess they realized how dumb that was and I'm hoping they're sincerely thinking about the quality of their game now
If someone is jumping into the game for the first time then yeah but for those who've been playing since launch and didn't buy the expansion pass it's $140 they've spent in one year
The game was never designed just to sell DLC
Absolutely. It's hilarious that people are still tricked by Bungie's PR tricked people into thinking Destiny isn't an MMO. Having dumb design choices or lacking basic features doesn't make the game not an MMO, it makes the game a bad MMO. It's 100% an MMO with no monthly fee. Bungie just doesn't call it an MMO to avoid the stigma and expectations that come along with the title. If they called it an MMO, people might expect decent features like actual communication beyond a handful of pointless emotes or guilds-related content. If World of Warcraft towns could only hold a dozen people, it wouldn't just magically stop being an MMO.
Twilight Gap
Member
the holiday lineup in the mutiplayer shooter space is mostly PvP oriented.
I like Destiny and I would disagree with that. It doesn't receive updates frequently enough. It takes too long for them to tweak obvious meta problems.
There are plenty of other MMOs that fit the MMO bill better.
Like, Defiance.
Sword Of Doom
Member
It was designed to keep people playing and coming back every week. Why else would they make light level RNG dependent? It was a hamster wheel and to me at least it was clear what their priorities were when designing the game. Recently in an interview Luke Smith said that they realize now that it's ok for people to stop playing their game. To me that says a lot and confirms what I always believed
It says they want people to play their game and buy dlc and if you don't like the games mechanics or design philosophy then you can quit anytime? Yeah it sounds like that to me too.
That was not new, Bungie said the same thing around launch. It's a game you could play for a while, set aside, and come back to later, to find new things to do. It's why the expansions had a little of every type of activity in it, rather than focus on one or two.
I honestly dont't find Defiance, having played through it and most of it's season pass content, to really be that different from Destiny in terms of "how much of an MMO it is". Either way, it's an irrelevent statement, how much of an MMO other games are doesn't change the fact that Destiny is one.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
In a nutshell, it has the grindy mechanics of an MMO but without any of the social features.
Weekly lockouts, tons of rep to grind, and so on.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
build MMOs without MMO socialization brehs
They also said infuse only applies to year 2 items, so keeping them is worthless.
You can still upgrade the damage on the year 1 exotics to match the year 2 exotics.Even if they don't have a year 2 version.
crucible and rebalancing them for older content
they also said the exotics that do or do not go to year 2 aren't set in stone
Twilight Gap
Member
Ha weren't most the the UI changes suggested by someone in some rather swish looking mockups about a week after the game dropped?
Edit found it... Looks a little familiar.
I think it speaks more to the framework Bungie built for the game's UI, which it looks like they're finally setting into. It's very malleable and a lot of these changes have been no-brainers. I dont doubt they had most of the suggestions mocked up in house already, but were either unable to implement them at the time or had planned to at a later date.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I could have sworn I saw Icebreaker have a Y2 version, but I too busy noticing that Gjallarhorn was dead. lol
Really? Where did they say that? It seemed like year 1 exotics were capped at some nebulous space between year 1 and 2.
They didnt
Because if this wasn't the case there would be no need to nerf Gjallahorn, Ice Breaker etc.
Ovek
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I think Bungie are sticking to there guns regarding matchmaking for raids. So no....