HORRORSHØW
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Digital Foundry vs. The Last of Us Remastered
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don't let facts get in the way of ignorance.
I don't know why there is hyperbole necessary.
People are explaining why they are shitting on Polygon.
In general I suggest you also quote the people you have such an obvious problem with, then there is no need to guess what your point is.
Bluemercury
Member
Its a fantastic game, probably the best Ps3 single player experience, but this remaster is just way too soon for it to be a much better experience than the original....
michaelius
Banned
I was expecting much heavier drops than 48 fps
Terrific comment, you'd go down well on N4G.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
No, they said they'd been working hard to get the average as far above 60fps as possible.
Judging by how little time the game spends below 60fps, the average has to be pretty significantly above. (if it wasn't capped at 60 for the final product)
He's almost right, though. Ground Zeroes is the only one so far.
Ground Zeroes has the occasional dip
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
How many rock solid 60fps games on PS3, Xbox 360 or Xbox One?
Truth is more games are shooting for 60fps on PS4 than any console this gen or last. Just because they don't hit it 100% of the time means little. Even Call of Duty which is the game most known for being 60fps has never been locked and the FPS situation has gotten worse as time as gone on.
Any complex full retail game? Not a lastgen port and not a psn arcade game that has n64 graphics?
Forza series. Zero dips.
Mr Moose
Member
Resogun is solid 60, Child of Light, maybe, too (according to DF anyway) "Frame-rate tests for Child Of Light reveal a solid 60fps update on the PS4".
Oh and Rayman Legends.
So glad you brought that up... Forza 5 is 30fps at the start, and end of race, therefore not a full 60fps game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFGMX0RWzwM
that you notice
Man, I put 60fps above all else when tweaking games on my PC, it's the most important setting to me, but I'll still have to agree that people are going nuts over it the past few months. While I was playing MGR and saying "holy crap the performance is shit", I was also reading a good amount of posts talking about how good "60fps" feels, and how DmC was shit for being 30fps (it also ran like shit on PS3, at least the demo), and now a game that stays at 60fps the majority of time and only drops noticeably when shit gets the most realest is not worthy of being called a true locked 60fps game?
I mean, technically, people saying this are right, but chill, people. This is a 60fps game, no other way about it.
I guess some people here would say I don't really play Dark Souls II on PC at 60fps because it drops to like 40fps when the bonfire fog comes up when I rest at 3200x1800, even though it's 60fps everywhere else, with no exceptions.
I mean, technically, people saying this are right, but chill, people. This is a 60fps game, no other way about it.
I guess some people here would say I don't really play Dark Souls II on PC at 60fps because it drops to like 40fps when the bonfire fog comes up when I rest at 3200x1800, even though it's 60fps everywhere else, with no exceptions.
Anyone?
Anyone applaud me for seeing the future in my post that the shitty post in question is now retroactively being altered by introducing new criteria to make it seem more valid?
Summer Haze
Banned
Not true. Just like I said earlier, if you take a corner wrong in F5 and end up on the gravel kicking up dirt, the fps will drop. I know it's a pretty insignificant thing to note, but the game isn't dip-free.
I would rather take statistics into account than follow some of the troll posts here.
TLoU definitely sits a good time on the 60FPS and only dips on high loads. Comparing it with a game just targeting 60FPS or even running unlocked, TLoU delivers a wonderul experience.
DigitalFoundry should add more statistics like how many frames had a given frametime, what was the avg framerate and so on.
Seeing the TR
E having an avg framerate of 52, TLoU could definitely be >55 what means, that you'll get your butter smooth experience for most of the time.
TLoU definitely sits a good time on the 60FPS and only dips on high loads. Comparing it with a game just targeting 60FPS or even running unlocked, TLoU delivers a wonderul experience.
DigitalFoundry should add more statistics like how many frames had a given frametime, what was the avg framerate and so on.
Seeing the TR
E having an avg framerate of 52, TLoU could definitely be >55 what means, that you'll get your butter smooth experience for most of the time.
JonathanPower
Member
That's a good thing. Locking the frame-rate to 60fps would be stupid, since every time the game dips under 60fps, you would experience frame drops. Locking the frame-rate to 30fps is acceptable, because you know the game will never dip under 30fps.
gundamkyoukai
Member
That is not true we even had someone saying it dips.
IMO i rather they don't lock AAA games to 60fps on consoles , once it 60fps 90% plus of the time that is okay in my book .
Resogun is solid 60, Child of Light, maybe, too (according to DF anyway) "Frame-rate tests for Child Of Light reveal a solid 60fps update on the PS4".
Oh and Rayman Legends.
So glad you brought that up... Forza 5 is 30fps at the start, and end of race, therefore not a full 60fps game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFGMX0RWzwM
A PS2 can probably run those 2D games at 1080p no problem. )
Sorry, but every Forza games has dropped frames at one point or another for me. Just because that short Digital Foundry clip doesn't show any doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
Mr Moose
Member
Xbox One drops frames on Child of Light
An Xbox 360 could probably run Forza 5 no problem.
Back on topic, 60fps mode for me, looks very nice, I'll probably switch to 30 just for screenshots or for second playthrough.
Great performance for a great looking game.
Summer Haze
Banned
You must have never played those games.
Cave Johnson
Member
Because you're literally seeing the difference between both 30 and 60 on the same game. When people compare 60fps from other games it becomes the common excuse most detractors try to use to convince themselves that they don't notice the "difference". Good thing though, is that you can switch the frame-rate on the fly so you can experience it for yourself. Once you get the feel of it, I can surely say it's way too difficult to go back.
Cornbread78
Member
So overall sounds very good, but I'm sure we'll see our normal concern trolls and people freaking out, but 48 at it's lowest during rare occurances.... Good Job overall ND.
I... really don't think so.
wow
never in my life have i seen such density and lack of self awareness
incredible
I've played both Rayman Origins and Legends. If vita and 3ds can run those, then 6th gen consoles apart from DC can too and at higher quality.
It ran GT4 at 1080i remember?
3ds runs rayman origins at 30fps though its horrendous.
It's even better than that sounds. Just watched the video, it isn't even something like "it stays around 50fps during the Bloater fight", it literally only goes to 48~49 fps at the moment of the impact and if the bomb lands right in front of you. Slightly behind you? No problem. Hitting an NPC away from you? No problem.
Really? Consider me impressed.
And vita version has dips as well. Especially the mosquito sections.
psn
Member
My phone could run Forza 5 without dips
lol
Don't waste your time on him..
Only the xbox one is able to handle 60fps at 1080p with the glorious GPU compared to the shitty low end GPU in the PS4.
Summer Haze
Banned
Lmao! You were actually serious....
There is no way in hell the PS2 could run either of those games in 1080p. You're plain wrong. The Vita and 3DS don't even have 1080p screens, lol.
fluffydelusions
Member
Don't feed dem trolls.
Ps2 is more powerful than both ads and vita, and it ran GT4 at 1080i at 60 fps, and to me GT4 seems like an infinitely more complex game from rendering perspective.
Summer Haze
Banned
No it didn't, the native res for the game was 480p/i.
http://gran-turismo.wikia.com/wiki/Gran_Turismo_4
Just stop. It wasn't 1080i, see my link above. There is no chance in hell the PS2 could natively render any of those games in 1080p, you're delusional.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Lesson #1 - Never feed the trolls
How about you stop derailing this thread?
It's nonsense to force rock-solid 60FPS that never dips on graphical intensive games. TLOU: R is 60FPS like 98% of the time and if they would like to have it on 100% they would also have to downgrade these 98% where they already reached the goal. Or things like a dynamic resolution, but that would only help if the GPU was the "problem" and not the CPU when the framerate drops.
Also (except for one situation) in the framerate-analysis it weren't big fluctuations, only some 2-3 FPS drops one after another. That's much better than drops like 60 > 45 > 55 > 46 > 60 or something like that.
Also (except for one situation) in the framerate-analysis it weren't big fluctuations, only some 2-3 FPS drops one after another. That's much better than drops like 60 > 45 > 55 > 46 > 60 or something like that.
PaulKersey
Member
It was terrible. Lots of particles on screen IIRC. Probably why this version dips there too.