buddha0991
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DmC Devil May Cry Ships 1 Million Copies; Forecast Lowered To 1.2 Million
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ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Nope can't agree there. At best they are equals, both doing some good some bad.
that said, repeated bosses and backtracking never bothered me.
The worse thing about DMC4 for me was Lucifer. Such a shit weapon.
TheKaeptain
Banned
fish fillet
That's the thing the game does not appeal to the average joe. It's not cinematic and easy enough for them nor engaging and deep for hardcore. It's yet another niche game.
Fake Charlemagne
Member
It does seem like DMC4 gets a bad wrap purely because of the backtracking. Yeah that sucked, but it wasn't game breaking. The dice were what really pissed me off. Still a good game though, and with some minor changes and a shift in direction I firmly believe DMC5 could have been stellar.
Mechanically the thing that got on my nerves the most in the new game was the emphasis on crowd control moves. It's much more of a western action game now, and I think it suffers for that. The game doesn't let me accurately and consistently target enemies, but it does give me the ability to hit a lot of baddies all at once. It's a smoke-and-mirrors type of reinforcement that makes you think you're doing better than you really are. That might be why the Dreamrunner/Drak fights were so welcome in my eyes. That's when things felt a little bit more right.
Mechanically the thing that got on my nerves the most in the new game was the emphasis on crowd control moves. It's much more of a western action game now, and I think it suffers for that. The game doesn't let me accurately and consistently target enemies, but it does give me the ability to hit a lot of baddies all at once. It's a smoke-and-mirrors type of reinforcement that makes you think you're doing better than you really are. That might be why the Dreamrunner/Drak fights were so welcome in my eyes. That's when things felt a little bit more right.
This post shows why people should not do drugs.
bone_and_sinew
breaking down barriers in gratuitous nudity
It's what the audience that was supposed to buy this game but didn't would use to describe Capcom's strategy.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I think it was initially a prequel. It was definitely announced as such
I think it was changed, along with Dante's design, in response to the negative fan reaction.
Not sure what conclusion to draw from that but yeah, game was originally considered canon with the main series
Why? You just Devil Bringer the number you want, it's that simple.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
lol I still don't get it.
I'll concede that DMC4 has better and more refined combat than DmC. I can't deny that. However, despite the combat, DMC4 runs into problems with level design, pacing issues, excessive padding, and backtracking. So even though the combat is top tier, it can't overcome these issues (for me), and it made extended play a chore. And it was the first game in the series to make me feel this way. I can honestly say that DmC is much superior game in those regards, even with the different combat engine that doesn't quite reach DMC4's. It's a much more well rounded experience in my opinion.
And no, playing 100+ hours of BP in DMC4 doesn't constitute as a better gameplay experience either.
I agree with that. In fact, if I were to analyze them as those games I beat once and never go back I'd say DmC is a much better game, but when you consider they're DMC games, top tier combat action games, DmC's flaws suddenly have a lot more weight.
Glass Rebel
Member
I've been playing DMC4 again and it's amazing how much you can miss by skipping the cutscenes. I haven't seen Gloria in ages.
The game was a prequel, remake, reboot, preboot, sequel, reimagening and finally alternate timeline all in the span of a year. WTF!? The PR damaged this game more than any hardcore fan ever could.
Yeah, it's really easy. One pattern goes: 1, 3, 5 and the other pattern goes: 2, 4, 6. Just get the patterns down and Devil Bringer the number you want.
oh dat Gloria! Goddamn I was so pissed when I found out she is
Trish in disguise. I heard Gloria was meant to be her own character but Capcom wanted to get the game out the door soon so her character was cut including Dante's own missions with no backtracking.
Average Joe don't give a fuck and playing COD or smart phone games.
I actually like DMC4 more than 3. I think my opinion of DMC3 would probably get me run out of DMC-GAF.
Ahahahaha that sucks. Lucky for me I worked it out pretty quick. Those "puzzles" suck ass.
Meccanical
Member
I actually like DMC4 more than 3. I think my opinion of DMC3 would probably get me run out of DMC-GAF.
I like them both equally.
The first will always be my favorite though, that atmosphere can't be beat.
I was actually a little scared while playing that game for the first time as a kid.
The creep factor really went away in subsequent entries.
This is why I don't understand why Capcom felt that the formula of DMC4 was weak. The game was rushed out the door to meet deadlines and it was shortchanged because of it. The title had tons of potential that I was hoping we'd see in a DMC5. These games need time to cook, but instead Capcom rushes them out the door. It was especially infuriating considering that Capcom gave Ninja Theory all the time in the world to make their game.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/capcom-almost-halves-dmc-sales-expectations/0110372
The shitstorm is about to begin.
The shitstorm is about to begin.
Meccanical
Member
Nothing excuses the retarded reaction that a very loud segment of the DMC fanbase seems to be so keen of fueling.
All this talk of passion and the silly "you guys have moved on to the next cinematic blockbuster game-that-wants-to-be-a-film" comment aimed at who knows who, feels like you are coming in defence of the general negativity aimed at this game.
I dont know the reason for this since most of the criticism towards the negative fan backlash is towards the child-like tantrum that some (a very big "some") are throwing in all directions in hopes that if they are loud enough, mommy will give them what they want.
In the prossess, this "passion" is doing very little beyond portraying a well made product as broken piece of shit and giving the entire fanbase a bad name because of some rotten apples.
Fake Charlemagne
Member
I like how they're still banging on the white hair drum. It's pretty hilarious.
I also like how we're the bad guys for not buying a game we don't want.
It's cool, bro. Plenty of people have no idea that the dice works like that.
I also like how we're the bad guys for not buying a game we don't want.
Holy shit, what? You seriously just turned my life around. I no longer have a legit gripe about DMC4. Thank you.
It's cool, bro. Plenty of people have no idea that the dice works like that.
Love the atmosphere of the first game, Nobodies still creep me out. It's sad they haven't even TRIED to match that aspect of the original game.
Gaming media sure loves them some Ninja Theory.
HS got pretty average to decent reviews, and reviewers took then to task for their combat engine. So i don't see what you're trying to go for here.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Speaking of all the glowing reviews, am I the only one that found it funny they didn't bother to patch in draining style grades until after most of the reviews were out?
Positive reinforcement is a hell of an opiate.
Positive reinforcement is a hell of an opiate.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Someone linked a similar article just the other day where some other bitter journalist was blaming the masses for allowing such an interesting game as Enslaved to bomb at retail lol
NT is like the Lara Croft of video game developers. They just make you want to protect them I guess.
badcrumble
Member
No game, ever, is *owed* a sale by anyone. Wow.
I'll give MvCUK the benefit of the doubt and assume they're referring to the frankly childish Metacritic bombing, but I have a lot of doubts as to whether that has any sort of effect on sales.
I'll give MvCUK the benefit of the doubt and assume they're referring to the frankly childish Metacritic bombing, but I have a lot of doubts as to whether that has any sort of effect on sales.
Meccanical
Member
There's no reason why this should be as funny as it is.
Meccanical
Member
NT is like the Lara Croft of video game developers. They just make you want to protect them I guess.
Dayum.
It totally is though. Totally. DMC fans are a bunch of whiny brats that only care about hur colorz. Too stupid to understand the Shakespearian undertones of comparing dick dizes.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
nah it's pretty clear from the text they're talking about sales
Pretty much another professional forum poster with a persecution complex, a platform and hyperbolic tendencies
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Done: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=47337930
This is like some critical mass for my hatred of the mass gaming media. I mean jesus fucking christ.
AlphaDragoon
Member
This.
It's not about the goddamn hair, it's about changing everything and gaining nothing from it. Did we get a better combat system? HELL no. Did we get a better story and characters? No, which is where most though NT would actually shine a bit. It accomplished nothing outside of "piss almost everybody off" and wasn't even a better game for it.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Well all this response tells me that you cannot tell the difference between the fans with dissenting opinions on this reboot and the gamefaqs posters spewing bile.
I don't particularly give a shit how "some" people are being perceived. The majority on this forum and many others Luke it have reasonably explained time and time again what their issues are with the reboot, have given the reboot a chance on its own merit and are now dissecting the game like any action fanbase does.
if you or anyone else wants to lump us in with white hair idiots that's really your problem.
