AcceptableGhost
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Copies from that initial one million shipment are going to be lingering in stores for years to come, eventually getting slapped with a 5 dollar "please buy me" clearance sticker.
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DmC Devil May Cry Ships 1 Million Copies; Forecast Lowered To 1.2 Million
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Copies from that initial one million shipment are going to be lingering in stores for years to come, eventually getting slapped with a 5 dollar "please buy me" clearance sticker.
Majukun
Member
for the Nth time...bayonetta 2 was not canceled because it didn't made money..sega was actually pleased with how much the game sold,probbaly because it didn't cost much to make it (you can see it by how many of the cutscenes were not animated to stay on budget).
it was canceled because sega was bleeding money (because of other games,probably madworld and vanquish were responsible in this case),so sammy decided to narrow to the extreme the number of franchise they were allowed to work on,including only the already established ones,like sonic,total war or football manager.
And still they have a competent fighting system in these games, which can't be said about most western beat-em-all/character-action-games/I-don't-know-how-to-call-those-games-anymore.
Oh noes they changed the colour of his hair, fuck playing the game that got such good reviews!so,they changed developers,changed dante, destroyed a franchise and pissed off the fans,just to make the same numbers of bayonetta (at least for the first shipment),that didn't have a big franchise bihind?
well done capcom,well done
Acquiescence
Member
Bayonetta 2 is an ill-fated attempt to lure the hardcore audience that Nintendo alienated with the Wii. Due to the Wii U being an already ailing system however, it's probably going to sell waaay less than Bayonetta. Bayonetta obviously didn't meet sales expectations, otherwise Sega would've leapt at the opportunity to create a franchise out of it instead of cancelling a sequel and putting PG to work on a new IP like Anarchy Reigns. And god knows what the sales are like for that game.
Is this "you guys hated it because of his hair!" essentially the 2013 version of "you guys hated the Mass Effect 3 ending because it wasn't a happy ending?"
"I don't care" Dante refers to how Old Dante was super awesome and did not really care about anything going on around him (which... isn't exactly true, at least all of the time, but eh). "Because he is gay" is essentially him equating "gay" with "stupid" or something along those lines. Basically he's calling Dante a stupid character.
Yeah, we should all be slaves to metacritic instead of formulating our own opinions!
Why do people think the development costs of DMC and Bayonetta would be the same? I'd be willing to bet that Bayonetta selling 1.2 million made more profit than DMC selling 1.2 million.
Iirc Sega said it was fine with Madworld's sales. Vanquish was the real problem, and Anarchy Reigns too.
Pachterballs
Banned
Of they didn't let on this was team ninja, this would have sold.
Heavenly sword = bomba
Enslaved = bomba
Dmc = bomba
Ninja theory is becoming the new silicon knights
Heavenly sword = bomba
Enslaved = bomba
Dmc = bomba
Ninja theory is becoming the new silicon knights
Yes, because Nintendo really cares about the "hardcore" and not about making money. Lol.
Sega didn't have the money to continue Bayonetta 2 whether they wanted to or not. Do you or do you not understand this?
Die Squirrel Die
Member
They're like the Ryan Reynolds of game developers.
Yeah I agree. People may like to downplay GOW fighting but it does raw and kinda barbaric gameplay really well. It just feel appropriate given the look of the character and the setting.
Anyone who pulls out the "hair card" at this point is mentally challenged. It's that simple!
*dead*
Riposte
Member
IDK. Not playing a game because they changed hair color is dumb (thank god no one is doing that), but so is playing a game because it got good reviews. Why in god's name would I refer to game journos for an opinion on Devil May Cry?
I specifically loved DMC1 (fantastic level design that no other DMC game has achieved) and I have zero issues with the new Dante and his hair but I just don't dig the style of the game at all. What I mean by that is all the broken otherworld stuff and the shrill colors everywhere. It's visually too busy for my tastes.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I doubt that Endless Space and Madworld were supossed to be multimillion sellers, and actually Sega extended the 3 game contract to make 2 more games with PG, so if they weren't happy with the sales of the first 3 games the wouldn¡t have done so. I'd agree that Vanquish probably wasn't a success, but again more than sales is the fact that NT spent like 4 years on a 5 hour game, burned $20 million in the making of it and at the end it got mediocre scores all over the place.
That's why Sony bailed the fuck out of NT.
toastyToast
Member
As I tried to illustrate on the last page, dismissing something because you don't like the look of it is perfectly valid. This is media, not the Theory of Relativity. Not to say that the belligerence this game inspired was anything but childish, I'm finding your position equally so. People shouldn't feel any obligation to experience something just because someone told them to or because it makes them look ignorant or whatever it is you're trying to get at.
Not again Mass Effect 3...
witchedwiz
Member
issue is...
heavenly sword was meh allrite...
but enslaved was quite good..
and from what i'm hearing dmc isn't as bad as some gaffer are makint it out to be, rather is a serie reboot that while keeping the root has tried, for best or for worst, something different...
and that's about it..
Majukun
Member
oh noes,i have no idea what i'm talking about
ShockingAlberto
Member
Shh, we're watching a hissy-fit happen in real time. Don't call it out or it might stop.
Riposte
Member
That was a beautiful poem. Thank you.
unknownhero
Member
I would have bought a copy after the mostly favorable impressions after launch but it was the developers arrogance that made me think of buying a copy and so I didn't.
Then where did they find that money to acquire Relic from THQ?
Acquiescence
Member
So let me get this straight. Bayonetta didn't cost much to make and Sega were pleased with its sales (source?). Yet at the same time it wasn't considered a safe investment for them to greenlight a sequel so it was cancelled and PG were put to work on Anarchy Reigns, a new IP funded with money that Sega didn't have. Riiiiight.
Majukun
Member
anarchy reigns was released after sammy restructured sega if i remember well
It's what I believe, even if there's really no evidence other than 100s of capcom employees being busy with Dragon's Dogma. Of those 100s many of the core staff that made DMC3 and 4.
I think they wanted to get a game out in the franchise because it had been a couple years, but didn't have the internal resources to do so.
Or maybe Bayonetta 2 and Anarchy Reigns were being developed at the same time? Shit happened with Sega and sega said, "We're focusing on digital distribution only outside of a few of our biggest IPs right now," so Anarchy Reigns got denied a western release and Bayonetta was cancelled.
Monocle
Member
Pretty much this. It's an unfortunate outcome that Capcom brought upon themselves by chasing the casual dollar at the expense of the fans.so,they changed developers,changed dante, destroyed a franchise and pissed off the fans,just to make the same numbers of bayonetta (at least for the first shipment),that didn't have a big franchise bihind?
well done capcom,well done
You are deluded my friend. Enjoy the game if you will, but don't pretend the franchise needed fixing. DMC1 and DMC3 are outstanding, DMC2 is trash, and DMC4 is above average but flawed (and yet it still managed to be the highest selling DMC game). The series wasn't exactly in dire straits when DmC was announced.
Lolwut? There are still people who buy into this? You should inform yourself about the real reasons for the controversy.
NoirVisage
Banned
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Well, I guess that about wraps it up for the Devil May Cry franchise.
Score another W for Capcom's western outsourcing
good luck in your future endeavours, Ezekial
Score another W for Capcom's western outsourcing
good luck in your future endeavours, Ezekial
That was later on. Hence the past tense usage of did not.
Moreover, it was long after the restructuring.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Sega (or rather Sammy) has the money, but they don't want to publish more console games that aren't very successful. Sega has been bleeding money and lowering down Sammy's earnings and so they are focusing on digital content and a few IP's.
Dave1988
Member
He can still apply for a job at NT! He'd be a better PR shill than Tameem, at least.
Deserved.
They took an ip that was at its peak commercially and destroyed it. This wasn't an RE4 type situation where the games had been declining for years commercially, either. DMC4 sold the highest in the entire series (2.5 mil IIRC), and you suddenly decide it's a great idea to alienate those people by rebooting the series for people who previously didn't give a shit about it? Hope you take those revised sales, put some salt on it, and choke that shit down Capcom--for you have no-one to blame but yourself for this one.
Majukun
Member
platinum games is not a single team.
they work at multiple projects at the same time,so i don't understand what anarchy reigns has to do with bayonetta..the game was probably in concept stage while bayonetta was still in development (platinum and sega had a 5 games deal anyway).
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Reboot DMC with female Dante.
They already done it with DMC2.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Uh, at least not with Ninja Theory.
This!
LOL. Might as well make a spinoff with Trish.
GenoZStriker
Neo Member
Sold more than DmC. Ohhhh! I went there.
Monocle
Member
Welcome to NeoGAF, enjoy your stay.
ShockingAlberto
Member
What I don't understand is how we constantly hold western games up to the genre kings (this game doesn't do cover as well as Gears of War, this game doesn't do shotguns as well as Call of Duty, this game doesn't do open-world traversal as well as Assassin's Creed, etc.), but the second you point out that Bayonetta has been out for years and DmC doesn't come close to it, you're supposed to just be quiet and give them the A for Effort.