i agree but will they ever get to Shang Chi? would be an interesting way to borrow the best from both characters
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Does anyone else really want Iron Fist to be Asian?
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i agree but will they ever get to Shang Chi? would be an interesting way to borrow the best from both characters
Black-Wind
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Martial Arts only becomes a stereotype if that's all there is to his character. DD is a damn ninja, most characters who show up as "fighters" are gonna have some kinda fighting style they're good at (Unless they're JJ or Luke Cage level it seems).
I mean, no one calls May in AoS a stereotype just cause she's Asian and "REALLY good at fighting".
Making him Asian and beefing up the mystical elements would be just fine.
That or pull what they did with The Ancient One and gender swap him to. Asian Girl ... that way people get too mixed up to take a stance.
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Lord Virgin
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Tell me about Iron Fist GAF. I read a little bit about his powers a while ago, but forgot. What is he like as a character? Funny? Always in a bad mood? Dark? What are his powers exactly? Backstory?
Admiral Woofington
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Make him Latino. Because Hulk doesn't count I don't know what ethnicity Ruffalo is lol. And the only other major Latino I can think of is ant mans friend
fallengorn
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This topic again?
I wouldn't mind it one way or the other, but if they follow the cannon, I hope they include Shang Chi as a supporting character.
I wouldn't mind it one way or the other, but if they follow the cannon, I hope they include Shang Chi as a supporting character.
There's Quake.
One of the worst parts of mighty whitey.
freeofgreed
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I just want Iron Fist period. Hoping the rumor that they're canning it for a Punisher show isn't true.
BronsonLee
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Ya, that's my main issue with it. I freaking hate that trope with a fiery passion, so much so that if Iron Fist is yet another rich white guy who suffers from the tragic death of a parent(s) and then goes to Asia to learn martial arts (and becomes way better at it than anyone else), I won't watch the show. I just can't sit through that white wish fulfilment garbage story again.
I'd bet you anything that if they went with that route, he'd get an Asian love interest where he'd have to rescue her from Asian men to get with her. No fucking thanks.
Know how i know you don't read the comics, you think Ironfist dominates martial arts.
He is the second weakest immortal weapon.
And shit he sucks compared to Libra, and Mantis.
A major part of Danny Rand as a character is that he's a visible outsider in K'un-Lun, where everyone looks East Asian. If you cast him as an Asian, you lose a bit of that. You could recover it a bit since he could still be an outsider to K'un-Lun as an American, or even someone from elsewhere in Asia, but I don't think it would be as pronounced.
I've got no issue with race or gender-swapping characters when their race/gender isn't important to their character. Making Peter Parker black doesn't really change who he is at all. They could have cast an Indian guy as Dr. Strange and it still wouldn't change much. But Danny Rand kind of has to be white if they're trying to adapt the current Iron Fist character. I guess you could make Iron Fist Danielle Rand if you really wanted to and it wouldn't be a big deal as long as Misty Knight's down to swing that way.
I'd rather they just elevate an already-cool character like Shang-Chi if they just wanna do a martial arts series with an Asian lead.
Speaking of Asian representation, still waiting on Jimmy Woo to walk in on Agents of SHIELD and show everyone the business.
Cut Danny some slack. Not everyone can be the shining light in the world, Fat Cobra.
I've got no issue with race or gender-swapping characters when their race/gender isn't important to their character. Making Peter Parker black doesn't really change who he is at all. They could have cast an Indian guy as Dr. Strange and it still wouldn't change much. But Danny Rand kind of has to be white if they're trying to adapt the current Iron Fist character. I guess you could make Iron Fist Danielle Rand if you really wanted to and it wouldn't be a big deal as long as Misty Knight's down to swing that way.
I'd rather they just elevate an already-cool character like Shang-Chi if they just wanna do a martial arts series with an Asian lead.
Speaking of Asian representation, still waiting on Jimmy Woo to walk in on Agents of SHIELD and show everyone the business.
Cut Danny some slack. Not everyone can be the shining light in the world, Fat Cobra.
A major part of Danny Rand as a character is that he's a visible outsider in K'un-Lun, where everyone looks East Asian. If you cast him as an Asian, you lose a bit of that. You could recover it a bit since he could still be an outsider to K'un-Lun as an American, or even someone from elsewhere in Asia, but I don't think it would be as pronounced.
I've got no issue with race or gender-swapping characters when their race/gender isn't important to their character. Making Peter Parker black doesn't really change who he is at all. They could have cast an Indian guy as Dr. Strange and it still wouldn't change much. But Danny Rand kind of has to be white if they're trying to adapt the current Iron Fist character. I guess you could make Iron Fist Danielle Rand if you really wanted to and it wouldn't be a big deal as long as Misty Knight's down to swing that way.
I'd rather they just elevate an already-cool character like Shang-Chi if they just wanna do a martial arts series with an Asian lead.
Speaking of Asian representation, still waiting on Jimmy Woo to walk in on Agents of SHIELD and show everyone the business.
Folks would not be ready for some Jimmy Woo.
I'd rather they just elevate an already-cool character like Shang-Chi if they just wanna do a martial arts series with an Asian lead.
Speaking of Asian representation, still waiting on Jimmy Woo to walk in on Agents of SHIELD and show everyone the business.
My man.
A major part of Danny Rand as a character is that he's a visible outsider in K'un-Lun, where everyone looks East Asian. If you cast him as an Asian, you lose a bit of that. You could recover it a bit since he could still be an outsider to K'un-Lun as an American, or even someone from elsewhere in Asia, but I don't think it would be as pronounced.
I've got no issue with race or gender-swapping characters when their race/gender isn't important to their character. Making Peter Parker black doesn't really change who he is at all. They could have cast an Indian guy as Dr. Strange and it still wouldn't change much. But Danny Rand kind of has to be white if they're trying to adapt the current Iron Fist character. I guess you could make Iron Fist Danielle Rand if you really wanted to and it wouldn't be a big deal as long as Misty Knight's down to swing that way.
I'd rather they just elevate an already-cool character like Shang-Chi if they just wanna do a martial arts series with an Asian lead.
Speaking of Asian representation, still waiting on Jimmy Woo to walk in on Agents of SHIELD and show everyone the business.
cant handle the woo
fallengorn
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If they made a Jimmy Woo/Agents of Atlas show, I'd be over the moon.
ratcliffja
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A major part of Danny Rand as a character is that he's a visible outsider in K'un-Lun, where everyone looks East Asian. If you cast him as an Asian, you lose a bit of that. You could recover it a bit since he could still be an outsider to K'un-Lun as an American, or even someone from elsewhere in Asia, but I don't think it would be as pronounced.
I've got no issue with race or gender-swapping characters when their race/gender isn't important to their character. Making Peter Parker black doesn't really change who he is at all. They could have cast an Indian guy as Dr. Strange and it still wouldn't change much. But Danny Rand kind of has to be white if they're trying to adapt the current Iron Fist character. I guess you could make Iron Fist Danielle Rand if you really wanted to and it wouldn't be a big deal as long as Misty Knight's down to swing that way.
I'd rather they just elevate an already-cool character like Shang-Chi if they just wanna do a martial arts series with an Asian lead.
Speaking of Asian representation, still waiting on Jimmy Woo to walk in on Agents of SHIELD and show everyone the business.
Cut Danny some slack. Not everyone can be the shining light in the world, Fat Cobra.
Which is why you could just make him Hispanic. It's a win-win situation. He still gets to be the fish out of water and he could add a new race that's sorely underrepresented in the MCU. Then introduce Shang-Chi and you've got even more diversity while still staying mostly true to the comics.
Black-Wind
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No, it's because people don't consider AoS to be worth noting and AoS isn't a story completely about her character.
Brian Fellows
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It's also one of the worst acted shows on television. I doubt it's around all that long.
So you want a White Tiger show?
It's the next page that makes the scene.
Lol. You don't know shit about Iron Fist. Quit while youre ahead with your subtle racism.
Chris Pratt, or Chris Pine as Iron Fist. Not enough Chris.
What about Silver Samurai, and Lady Deathstrike, and a good portion of The Hand, and The Mandarin?
Signiciant they are shitty compared to others, especially other people that had the ironfist.
Junzo stole it and leveled a city and could use it rapidfire unlike Danny
Iron Fist being scrub-tier when compared to the other Immortal Weapons is honestly one of my favorite things about the character. He's firmly in the "pretty good, not overpowered but very competent" tier of Marvel, but as soon as he goes home, he's the scrawny kid who never got as tall as his brothers.
ViewtifulJC
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I suspect they'll be many thinkpieces and outrage over Iron Fist being white
I also suspect we'll all get over it and think the actor is great in the role
I also suspect we'll all get over it and think the actor is great in the role
Yes but really to me it doesn't matter. In the long run him being white really doesn't mean much to the character. Make him Asian, Black, whatever, it's all fine. Just don't change his personality and who he is. And of course as long as he still becomes best friends with Luke Cage, then it's all good.
Dude they turn being a Lovecraftian abomination into a Martial art, how can a glowing pew pew hand compete with that shit.
*cough*
I fucking hate that marvel's answer to make Amedaous Cho hip and new for the kids was to turn him into the fucking hulk.
Like come on man.
Poodlestrike
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I say make him Latino or something.
Just walk around the problem entirely.
I cannot fully express how much I hate his hair.
Just walk around the problem entirely.
*cough*
I cannot fully express how much I hate his hair.
Funky Papa
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Dog brother #1, though.
Ether that or be turned into Hercules
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