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Dualshock4 Thumbstick problems. Let´s gather info here.
- Thread starter Hanmik
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Yeah he is when I was on the phone with Sony to extend my Ps4 warranty I was specifically told that all controllers have a year long manufactures warranty.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I have a theory which is mostly just guesswork: I think its due to the concave design of the sticks combined with the type of grippy-rubber that Sony is using. I think what happens is that there's significantly more friction (depending on how people orient their thumbs) on the edges with a concave design vs. the convex strick design on the DS3 and they're using a similar grippy-rubber that they used on the DS3. Nintendo or MS controllers with concave sticks both seem to use a different type of rubber.
My theory:
The weird oily stuff that used to seep out of previous PlayStation thumbsticks is what made them keep their integrity, and now that they fixed that for the ds4, the thumbsticks are weaker and more susceptible to falling apart.
Again, this is purely a theory I came up with.
The weird oily stuff that used to seep out of previous PlayStation thumbsticks is what made them keep their integrity, and now that they fixed that for the ds4, the thumbsticks are weaker and more susceptible to falling apart.
Again, this is purely a theory I came up with.
RedAssedApe
Banned
ya'll making me paranoid. after a long play session i'm always inspecting my thumbsticks now lol
I'd say that if you aren't noticing black flakes on your DS4, you're in the clear. I've been noticing them since launch day and have s small smooth patch in the middle of the left thumbstick. The rubber just doesn't hold up to friction that well for those having issues.
I noticed a few days after I bought a DS4 a few of weeks ago that the tops of the analog sticks were wearing, and the top texture was going away. It's been a few weeks since, and since the PS4 was released I've been using it like crazy, and, well, they're still the exact same. It hasn't been anymore worn yet. So hopefully that's the end of it for awhile.
cpp_is_king
Member
It slowly flakes until large chunks are gone. It's an accelerating problem, since once the rubber is broken even a little bit, it becomes much easier to make the problem worse by rubbing your finger over the split area.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
If this turns out to be a problem, I imagine Sony will just issue free-rubber caps to go over the sticks for the 1.0 versions and then just issue a 2.0 DS4 with better rubber.
NinjaBoiX
Member
Lucent
Member
Yeah, mine has been getting some good use this weekend and I haven't noticed anything wrong with my sticks yet. They just don't look or feel like they'd chip away like that.
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Very odd. Hope it was just a faulty batch. Mine's not like that and I've used it like crazy.
Mine?
4-473-498-01 G
11201381209776
Left stick wearing, as well:
Just a hair under 20hrs of use.
Hard plastic with a rubberized coating.
If this turns out to be a problem, they owe us more than rubber caps. They should be giving us new controllers.
Dreams-Visions
Member
It's been stated before, but I'd recommend:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003NSLGW2/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Been using them since day one, minute one. good investment was good.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003NSLGW2/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Been using them since day one, minute one. good investment was good.
Duxxy3
Member
I'll take a pair of new sticks. I can swap them out myself.
Dreams-Visions
Member
that would be hot, but they won't give out two. It'd be too easy to exploit for gain. Rub down your analog stick with sandpaper or something and send in and get 2 new sticks free? hell naw. they'd just 1:1 for a new stick and maybe a $10 PSN card for your trouble.
Theman2k
Member
But it's so ugly
(((Why do they need to make their logo into the grip ? it looks so uncomfortable.
Duxxy3
Member
Something I did notice, and it may be relevant.
My pre-launch DS4 (the one with the wear) can take an FPS freek. Fits fine and I can't rotate it when it's on. FPS freeks on my launch DS4 are on slightly loose and I can rotate them.
Now I did not try the FPS freeks when I first got the pre-launch controller, so maybe it widened out or something.
Just something to chew on.
My pre-launch DS4 (the one with the wear) can take an FPS freek. Fits fine and I can't rotate it when it's on. FPS freeks on my launch DS4 are on slightly loose and I can rotate them.
Now I did not try the FPS freeks when I first got the pre-launch controller, so maybe it widened out or something.
Just something to chew on.
My controllers family! I have your little brother all the same except my serial number is a 7xxxxx instead of your 6xxxx. That one I would say is your bundled controller as that's mine and my spare is sealed. I have probably 15 hours on it so far looking at it now the left stick is noticeably more worn that then right stick but no damage.
Edit: Mine look EXACTLY like this, same batch as well. Also to some of you clowns , I have no nails or abnormalities lol.
Mine?
4-473-498-01 G
11201381209776
Left stick wearing, as well:
Just a hair under 20hrs of use.
Hard plastic with a rubberized coating.
matty2Dfraud
Banned
the fuck... stop with the finger nail shit already. it isn't a thing.
The controller at my nearest Sony Store is like this. Good to hear it's probably just a bad batch and not a widespread problem.
I highly doubt it's related to use/care/nails if this thread is anything to go by. My initial thought was it was from extensive use, but other people are saying other demo units are fine.
I highly doubt it's related to use/care/nails if this thread is anything to go by. My initial thought was it was from extensive use, but other people are saying other demo units are fine.
just tried to look at the data collected.. (VERY little data)
nothing here suggests a pattern..
Duxxy3
Member
just tried to look at the data collected.. (VERY little data)
nothing here suggests a pattern..
Yeah, I don't think it's a bad batch.
Captain Tuttle
Member
Premature
AllBusinessJr
Member
Interestingly enough, my RIGHT thumbstick has shown some very slight signs of smoothing/wear. Left is holding up just fine.
I'm glad that I've got some spare caps for the analog sticks.
Buy some protection and thumb safe ya'll!
At least post where you got them -__-
I can confirm that the right stick can also wear like this too. Both my controllers have this issue.
cpp_is_king
Member
ThePowerofX
Banned
Could be a number of things:
Contamination If a small bit of dirt is mixed with raw materials, once the rubber is cooled, ejected and set, thumb pressure around contamination will cause tearing.
Low pressure/air pockets Air finds a way into the injection process, causing 'shorts'. Same result as above. Once the air pocket is squeezed, friction causes tearing.
Frosted design Sony picked a soft compound for comfort and a frosted finish to aid grip. This combination may not work well together. Simply chose a slightly harder compound and monitor for improvement.
In any case, it's a safe bet that Sony have already done a shop walk to discuss and rectify the problem.
Rimon-hanit
Member
Well I sweat acid and still no issues. so maybe a specific batch (amazon here)
AllBusinessJr
Member
So what's the consensus on action plan? Wait a few months to make sure that we can hopefully engage the warranty for a new controller? Exchange now? Say forget it and buy the thumbcaps?
RageWaffles
Member
I've been checking my ds4 nearly every day since I got it (on launch day) for signs of this issue. The left stick was getting noticeably worn down and smoothed, but I didn't think any actual damage was going to form. However, just now, I checked and there are two small tears on the left stick, and the right one now looks about as worn as the left one did a few days ago.
(I know one of the marks looks like it's caused by a fingernail—it's not. I tried to replicate it on the right stick and I couldn't. And besides, my nails aren't long enough to do that and I don't dig my thumbnail into the stick anyway.)
4-473-498-01 G (and it came with the system)
(I know one of the marks looks like it's caused by a fingernail—it's not. I tried to replicate it on the right stick and I couldn't. And besides, my nails aren't long enough to do that and I don't dig my thumbnail into the stick anyway.)
4-473-498-01 G (and it came with the system)
AllBusinessJr
Member
Anyone with flaking contacting Sony?
AllBusinessJr
Member
Keep us updated. No one has posted an official word from Sony.
Mine came with my PS4 from amazon and I haven't had any issues to speak of yet. Not saying there isn't a problem, but I'm curious about how those with defective sticks are handling them. Are you guys playing with the tips of your nails or the pad of the thumb? I'm not one of the "cut your nails, bro!" guys. Just asking an honest question.
FrankWza
Member
How am I handling? Same as I have with about 6 systems that have controllers with analog sticks that are rubber coated since ps1....Hahahahahahaha....oh man.
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