adamsappel
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The "Twinkie Defense" was an actual thing.
The defense isn't arguing mental illness. I don't think they're even arguing. Roof will be found guilty.
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Dylann Roof (neo-Nazi Charleston church shooter) found guilty on all counts
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Earthstrike
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So, Why is this taking so long?
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Literally impossible
It bothers you that he was given due process?
LiveFromKyoto
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The defence's case is that he's fucking crazy.
They have to go through each of the 33 charges.
George Washington
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He will be convicted of most of those charges.
Pai Pai Master
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They're not just debating on whether or not he did it , there are 33 charges to work through. They're ultimately deciding if they should put a person to death or not - regardless of how horrible he and his crimes were, that's not an easy thing for a group of people to come to consensus on.
Never thought about it like that. I'm sure even if it is easier in any aspect, there's still a lot of procedure to go through or maybe even having to explain a charge.
Actually that comes later, on the 3rd. What they're doing now is just going through each charge one by one, and there may be a small disagreement about one individual charge or another. He's going to be found guilty on the vast majority of them, though.
Mammoth Jones
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It bothers me he didn't give his victims due process.
The sentencing actually comes later. They're not deciding that, but the amount of charges will take time to get through.
Also, here's a thing about juries: they're legally forbidden to talk about the case with anyone (even other jurors) until the deliberation phase. They're going to talk about it a little bit before they decide, and their decision is on many different charges that aren't just written off like a checklist. Anyone that thinks this could literally take five minutes and that is mad that it didn't is ill-informed.
That's neither here nor there. He gets the due process that his victims didn't because we're not murderers.
No.
Even that should take no longer than 5 minutes. Fucker should be fried. Fuck compassion. Tired of the high road while motherfuckers gun innocent Black people at fucking Church. Him and anyone that does what he did should die slow.
Motherfucker kills all Black people and his jury is 73% White. Shit should be:
we don't support the death penalty cause there's no way to fix an error if the system fails and condemns an innocent
this ain't racism; a good portion of the people wrongly killed by death penalty in the US are black
Mammoth Jones
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Dylan Roof isn't the poster boy I'd use to justify not using the death penalty. I hope they put him down.
I assume they'll find him guilty. But hey, 2016.
I'd stay home for a couple of days if they didn't.
Death Penalty is a whole other conversation.
BTW I can't repeat this enough times.
DYLAN ROOF CITED MULTIPLE FAKE NEWS STORIES in his explanations of why he hated black people. including the item that is on Facebook pages TODAY "explaining" nonsense statistics like black people are more likely to kill people than cancer and so on.
I'd stay home for a couple of days if they didn't.
Death Penalty is a whole other conversation.
BTW I can't repeat this enough times.
DYLAN ROOF CITED MULTIPLE FAKE NEWS STORIES in his explanations of why he hated black people. including the item that is on Facebook pages TODAY "explaining" nonsense statistics like black people are more likely to kill people than cancer and so on.
It doesn't matter. There are fucking scumbags out there, and Roof is one of them. That doesn't mean he deserves to die, that's a barbaric way of dealing with justice. We as a society should be past the "eye for an eye" mentality.
Angelus Errare
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There will be one juror who can't convict. Quote me
RPGCrazied
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Remember the Aurora shooter? He killed like 13 people in a theater, still chills me to this day, but he got life in prison. So Dylann probably will too.
Professor Beef
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You're really trotting this out in a thread where the person involved couldn't be any further from innocent?
You're right, we should be. But the US Government has no direct control over that. We do have control over the death penalty, and it needs to be abolished for so many reasons.
Username1198
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Throw the book at him. Litetallly every book ever published, throw at him for the rest of his shitty worthless ugly life.
No paperbacks please.
No paperbacks please.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Ray Wonder
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I think you need a good defense to be able to win with that, and I've heard he's defending himself.
I think the point is that you can't have the death penalty applied inconsistently. The Central park teenagers ALSO "confessed" and were "definitely guilty"
Roof is absolutely guilty, but you can't have a "special" version of the death penalty when you're definitely sure this time.
Ethically I'd be fine if he is put down, but morally the death penalty is malfunctioning and needs to be either fixed or retired.
He's going to die someday anyway. It's not an out to extend his length of misery before that time arrives.
entremet
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Should be a no brainer, but as people have said, I will not be surprised due to this damn year.
Frozenprince
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If he doesn't get the death penalty.
User Name Here
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I don't know man, he has a pretty soild defense....
Nastrodamous
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mistrial incoming
Done.
RPGCrazied
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We getting the verdict today?
Mammoth Jones
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Professor Beef
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There wasn't a mountain of evidence against them like this case, though.
Roof can burn in hell, and I'll shed no tears once he dies.
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
I hope this motherfucker burns.
BlazinSkatinAxel
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All it takes is one white supremacist to mistrial this. See: Michael Slager
Frozenprince
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I think what bothers me more than anything is that he's still alive to begin with.
If he weren't a white 20 something, he'd have been gunned down before he could say "I surre". Let alone taken to fucking Burger King, lord knows that'll piss me off long after he gets the needle to the arm.
If he weren't a white 20 something, he'd have been gunned down before he could say "I surre". Let alone taken to fucking Burger King, lord knows that'll piss me off long after he gets the needle to the arm.
RPGCrazied
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Once he gets into federal prison he will wish he was dead.
Lightning Count
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Good, better get a full 33/33 if this guy walks the US Justice system needs a massive overhaul.
RPGCrazied
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He is not walking people. Come on. Its either life in prison or death. Thats it.
You realize that this already means he won't walk, right? He'll be sentenced on all the charges he's convicted of, they don't have to run the table.
He's been found guilty: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-...ng&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central
A Link to the Past
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Morally, ethically, and economically, I don't agree with the death penalty.
But what I always say with cases like these is that I will not waste energy on someone like Roof if that is his sentence.
But what I always say with cases like these is that I will not waste energy on someone like Roof if that is his sentence.
Frozenprince
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No, he won't, they'll lock him in a nice cage where he can read and write and live in his own crazy mind by himself while dragging his appeals process out as long as possible.
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