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I feel the same way.
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Edge: PS4 is your next console... maybe
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I feel the same way.
They get the basics right and they have potential, at least that is my impression. I think Shadow Fall is the game were we´re going to see if they made the step from a decent to a good developer.
hardcastlemccormick
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Oh, I see, so you read into another post, saw a bunch of points that weren't there and made some "wise" but vague comment about "success" because you have absolutely nothing to add. Got it.
There's a difference between hope and faith. I have hope that Shadow Fall will be great, and I agree with your impression, but I'm surrounded by faith that it will be, and certainty that it already is guaranteed to be. Same story for Killzone's 1 through 3.
Especially considering the state of the controls of killzone 2 upon release. Are people forgetting how they had to patch the game to get the controls into a playable state? But people convinced themselves it was great anyway because GIFs.
I have very little faith in the developer and the franchise if they considered the killzone 2 launch acceptable.
BadAss2961
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They already made that jump with Killzone 2. That's why Guerrilla has such a big following here -- it's not just the graphics.
HueyFreeman
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I think it was one part reader-grabbing, one part advocacy journalism. It was ballsy of them to say what essentially the entire fanbase was already saying, and negative press like that definitely would have had a major impact on MS' decisions.
Either way, good on them.
Either way, good on them.
-"And I'm also going to ignore PS+, the indie support, the F2P games, and all of the Sony studios working on exclusives." Sounds logical to me.
maplelord93
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edge is on the edge....
Well those are some very narrow choices!
I feel they're just reflecting the reality of things at the time. Some major problems for Xbone have disappeared, and EDGE are as honest about it as they can be. Based on what I'm aware of, that seems like a good thing in my opinion.
I wonder how it got to the point where people consider Ryse, DR3, and Forza better than Killzone, Knack, and Driveclub. Both lineups seem pretty neck and neck to me, but that's all pretty subjective anyway. Maybe it's the residual "Ps3 has no gamez" stink left over from this gen.
Most of what Microsoft is doing in regards to the FIFA bundle and "Official console of the NFL" nonsense won't really have much of an impact due to the fact that the very people they're trying to target with those ads will still be playing their football and military shooters on their 360s/Ps3s and won't buy a new console until sometime around holiday 2014-15 after a price drop/discount or two.
Ps4 still has the advantage mainly due to price, which can be easily wiped out by a kinect-less unit, and then we'll just have two identical black boxes that do same thing.
Most of what Microsoft is doing in regards to the FIFA bundle and "Official console of the NFL" nonsense won't really have much of an impact due to the fact that the very people they're trying to target with those ads will still be playing their football and military shooters on their 360s/Ps3s and won't buy a new console until sometime around holiday 2014-15 after a price drop/discount or two.
Ps4 still has the advantage mainly due to price, which can be easily wiped out by a kinect-less unit, and then we'll just have two identical black boxes that do same thing.
Think he is talking about exclusive and first-party support.
CitizenCope
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People generally upset that someone could want an XB1 instead of a PS4 in this thread. Seriously? Haha! Enjoy your PS4 and thank you for your concerns. I'm sure ill pick up a PS4 eventually as I like games. State of Decay is in my top 3 GOTY and it looked pretty bad visually. Surprise its not all about graphics.
This made me lol.
Goddamn.
Salvor.Hardin
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Edge did exactly what every other gaming site did - they rode on the wave of that Sony fanboy momentum to sell a few issues and get a few more clicks than usual.
Now it's back to the levelheaded pragmatism they're actually known for.
Now it's back to the levelheaded pragmatism they're actually known for.
Opus Angelorum
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I'm not sure what your problem is.
The person I quoted suggested the PS4 being the more powerful was a reason to buy it over the Xbox One.
I stated the more powerful platform does not make it the better platform.
How my response was vague (or wise) is beyond me. Feel free to think otherwise.
hardcastlemccormick
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I think this generation's been a rough one when it comes to the state of games when they launch. Hopefully things smooth out with easier-to-program machines.
Am I wrong in thinking that a lot of people didn't care for Killzone 3? Genuinely asking. I intend to pick it up at some point myself. I thought Killzone 2 was an alright game.
Anticitizen One
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I don't understand why Nintendo and Microsoft fans got so upset over Edge saying "PS4 is your next console". Sony made smart decisions and Microsoft and Nintendo made poor ones...those fans should be kicking MS and Nintendo along with everyone else in order to get them to change not trying to defend poor management (that is clearly not working).
So much this ffs
Xbox One doesn't have just one problem.
1. The reversal equates to a rush job: they have been going in the DRM/24 hr Internet for a long while. Now they have to re-align a whole bunch of operations. You think it's going to be all done a couple months from now? I don't!
2. Kinect. I don't want this. I certainly don't want one always on. This company is always telling gamers what gaming is. It's not working.
3. Track record. The 360 has been dry for ages. It was dead before Gears 3. It was dusty when Halo 4 came out. It feels to me like they gave up on the 360 once the One was in blueprint stage. The early days of the 360 were good but I just don't trust them anymore.
The price and power difference are two other issues but for me they're minor. still they are in favor of PS 4. Every instinct is telling me to wait and watch this product for a year.
1. The reversal equates to a rush job: they have been going in the DRM/24 hr Internet for a long while. Now they have to re-align a whole bunch of operations. You think it's going to be all done a couple months from now? I don't!
2. Kinect. I don't want this. I certainly don't want one always on. This company is always telling gamers what gaming is. It's not working.
3. Track record. The 360 has been dry for ages. It was dead before Gears 3. It was dusty when Halo 4 came out. It feels to me like they gave up on the 360 once the One was in blueprint stage. The early days of the 360 were good but I just don't trust them anymore.
The price and power difference are two other issues but for me they're minor. still they are in favor of PS 4. Every instinct is telling me to wait and watch this product for a year.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Part of me is sad we're not going to get to see how things would have played out had MS not changed course. Would have have crashed and burned in the most spectacular fashion ever, or would enough average consumers (ie non-message board dwellers) not cared and bought the system anyway?
Now we'll never know.
Now we'll never know.
Nastrodamous
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How is this anymore unreasonable than people selecting a console they will be using over the next 6 - 8 years over $100?
I know he was. He is still wrong.
Rogue_Ledr
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These console war articles are merely meant to stir the controversy back and forth to drive up sales.
Next thing they'll be back on the PS4 love train and talking doom and gloom on MS.
Next thing they'll be back on the PS4 love train and talking doom and gloom on MS.
Opus Angelorum
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It's insulting, quite frankly.
Love Deterrence
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I think we all knew that changes were coming for Microsoft, and that things were not going to look the same come launch.
To be honest, the consoles look on par with one another. Strong third-party support with limited first-party support. At launch, I'll give Microsoft the slight edge (based on what we've seen) in the first-party category. Anyway, I'm excited for both platforms and can't wait to jump into the next generation of gaming.
To be honest, the consoles look on par with one another. Strong third-party support with limited first-party support. At launch, I'll give Microsoft the slight edge (based on what we've seen) in the first-party category. Anyway, I'm excited for both platforms and can't wait to jump into the next generation of gaming.
Ok? Why are people so obsessed to prove that they're buying the better console?
From their 1st party? Not really. They did somewhat ok the first 4 years of the generation but then dropped like a rock after kinect came out. Most of their former exclusives you can get on PC and even PS3 in some instances now.
hardcastlemccormick
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EDIT: Retracted.
No, needs to be cheaper than PS4 since its weaker.
VALU measure:
$399 PS4 = $299 Xbone
The guy you quoted was stating he liked the games on X1 better. How does the PS4 being cheaper and more powerful change that?
AyaisMUsikWhore
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I would disagree. It all goes back to that analogy.. Some people would thoroughly be upset if their best friend was getting beat by their boyfriend and their excuse to going back would be because "he has money and that appeals to me."
Literally. I agree with enjoying what you like but people aren't mad or concerned about what you want to spend your purchase on, they are concerned because it feels like your running back to the antagonist who's only doing it for their best interest and making it seem like it was for yours. It could be that some people just aren't that "easy". It has nothing to do with graphics at all.
Well, That's like any competitive gadgets in history.
Apple vs Samsung
Merc vs BMW
Canon vs Nikon
This is the world we live in...
BadAss2961
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If you weren't a fan of KZ2, you'll probably like KZ3 more. But most of us that loved KZ2 feel they took a step back with KZ3. They tried to make the SP more Hollywood, and the MP more Call of Duty.
Shadow Fall looks like a return to form for the fans.
Don't worry, he just bited the first thing i said that was not a praise to Sony
They were right then, but now that Microsoft has dont their 180's its a more close battle. I happy with the old cover page, they took a stand against DRM when most other media outlets took microsofts money and talked about how DRM is next gen
Opus Angelorum
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I'm attacking people? Condescending?
You could not be more wrong. I'm sorry if my original post has annoyed you, clearly no response will suffice.
Clearly.
Thats totally subjective though, completly personal choice.
hardcastlemccormick
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Makes sense, thanks. Hollywood SP and COD MP sound like changes for the worse. Everything I've seen of Shadow Fall looks interesting, hope it delivers.
I will assume that a misunderstanding has occurred and retract my previous statements.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Because they both work hand and hand sometimes. Being cheaper is an advantage that obviously works to gain momentum
Being more powerful is a driving force that gives creators a platform of limitless possibilities. They can make bigger or smaller and don't have to worry too much about hitting a limit because there's so much more to use obviously. Having a wider work space can either sometimes create more problems or open up a lot of more opportunities. So yes, in some ways.. It does matter. And it's obviously a portion of why the wii u is still getting the cold shoulder even though they try to admit that they aren't.
Stealthcobra
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Thats just it.. The games... Microsoft doesn't make any, they just throw money at timed exclusives. If last gen is any indication... And how they have proceeded this next generation.. Why would anybody buy a xb1? Sony will always have more exclusives. Does that one game here or there make the xb1 a worth while purchase, nope i don't think so
The line up as a whole is, but i was talking about their first party efforts and they are seriously lacking, especially in the last 4 years. The started the generation somewhat decently but then suddenly stopped to give a rats ass about it.
I expect a console manufacturer to offer a diverse and ambitious first party lineup with a high quality, just like we experienced it in earlier console generations. If he doesn´t offer that he´s becoming completely useless to me.
Love Deterrence
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I loved Killzone 2, was not a fan at all of Killzone 3. The third entry in the series threw away everything that made its predecessor great... I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hesitant about Killzone: Shadow Fall. In an era when we get an FPS every other day, I just haven't seen anything that will set this game apart from the rest (
I know, that's unfair.
I'm not upset but I am vaguely mystified that anyone would go MS unless they are into the whole TV passthrough thing and weren't that bothered by their attempt to control their users' game buying. Why pay more for roughly the same thing otherwise? Is it just brand power?
Almost nothing is guaranteed but i´d say the chance is pretty high.