I hope Epic is behind it. Wasn't there a rumor that a new trilogy would be outsourced?
The new iPad is more powerful than an Xbox360 or a Playstation 3. It's more powerful than a Vita, has a bigger screen, and more than triple the battery life. They also come out with a new one every year, instead of in huge 7 year cycles.
If its outsourced to Chair then it's more than fine.
Doesnt this guy already know what Sony and MS are up to? or is he just humoring us?"The only way they're going to go away is if they don't stay true to what they are. The console gaming experience is about delivering something that's way out past the bleeding edge and subsidising it through the software royalty model - just like Apple does with the phones. It's not that much different."
He added: "That's the console gaming model, and if you don't do that - if you don't stretch just far enough, you don't just have enough of a difference to make people want to take the leap with you... it all falls down.
"Now, I don't think that's going to happen - I think the console guys are going to blow us all away. But as you say, we're on them.
Bleeding edge eh Epic? You have the hardware available to realize the Samaritan demo on pc coming in the very near future, and yet you are still singing praises to the console guys. And these guys used to be bleeding edge pc developers. But oh noh, those filthy pirates make it impossible to be profitable on pc. Guess what? Most console developers are hanging for dear life because of the unsustainable model that this generation has embraced.
How many years has EA posted profits since this generation started? What happened to Majesco, and for how long will we have THQ around. Yep. Keep drinking that cool-aid Mark Rein. As long as YOU have the console holders subsidizing your games, you will be fine. I bet if it wasn't for the engine you would be in the same predicament most studios find themselves in.
I still dont follow how Apple is goig to "pass them". with what an ipad ? really??how does the gpu in the ipad compare to next gen consoles???not following.
The new iPad is more powerful than an Xbox360 or a Playstation 3. It's more powerful than a Vita, has a bigger screen, and more than triple the battery life. They also come out with a new one every year, instead of in huge 7 year cycles.
You'll need a better example than that. IBungeons only looks slightly better than torchlight, which ran on my single core Atom netbook.well the newest iPad can handle UE3 based games with more effects turned on and at a much higher resolution than 720p (infinity blade: dungeons)
This is the very definition of brainwashed. Dear God.
Lol enjoy your on rails slashing games and HD ports of old titles. I have an ipad2 and love IB and the ports but an ipad doesn't and wont hold a candle to next Gen or current Gen.
Doesnt this guy already know what Sony and MS are up to? or is he just humoring us?
But I don't want the console guys to blow me.
Does your phone have Gears of War 3? Something like Skyrim? Is GTA V coming to it in the near future? It's not the size of the ship, as they say. It's the motion of the ocean.It's strange how many people are content with the current gen of consoles. Listen I always will go for gameplay over graphics and frame rate. But it comes to a point where you got to ask yourself, can we do better ? Marginally at least?
My phone has more ram than my 360 for christ sakes. I know this is a common arguement but its still true. I don't even own an apple product but the Ipad3 is already talking 1080P with quad core processor. Really Sony/MS need to step it up on their next consoles imo.
I like where you're coming from with this post.If anything the new ipads, phones and whatnot would be convincing arguments to NOT go for the so-called bleeding edge. Only thing it gets you is expensive hardware that is overtaken tech-wise in a matter of years by something flashier. Even if the new tech is only 'close to' or 'marginally better than,' you can fool a bunch of fools with tech demos and pretty looking explosions. As people have said in PC vs console graphics threads, production values can more than turn the cards against performance. The perceived premium of that nextbox isn't going to last all that long.
Nintendo turned things around by being the first out the gate w/ motion controls, MS upped the ante w/ Kinect, and likely we'll keep seeing these kinds of 'only possible on x hardware' situations, where graphics matter but don't complete the picture.
I am not the adolescent I was when the last round of consoles came to the market, my tastes have matured ...
Always in motion the future is.
It's strange how many people are content with the current gen of consoles. Listen I always will go for gameplay over graphics and frame rate. But it comes to a point where you got to ask yourself, can we do better ? Marginally at least?
My phone has more ram than my 360 for christ sakes. I know this is a common arguement but its still true. I don't even own an apple product but the Ipad3 is already talking 1080P with quad core processor. Really Sony/MS need to step it up on their next consoles imo.
You'll need a better example than that. IBungeons only looks slightly better than torchlight, which ran on my single core Atom netbook.
Does your phone have Gears of War 3? Something like Skyrim? Is GTA V coming to it in the near future? It's not the size of the ship, as they say. It's the motion of the ocean.
We're all gamers here, I presume. We like to game, yes? Well, we shouldn't be looking to Sony and MS to step up their game with the hardware. We should be looking to Apple to step up their game with the software... but they don't seem particularly interested in doing so.
These are the same mistakes that were made when the 360 and PS3 launched. These are the same mistakes Nintendo made with the N64 and again with the Gamecube. These are the lessons we have learned from the 3D0, the Atari Lynx, the Jaguar. And the irony is that Apple isn't even in the same business. Again, the millions of people rushing out to buy iPads aren't doing so to play high-tech videogames.
I like where you're coming from with this post.
He absolutely does. That's why he made his statement, and worded it carefully.
That's true but what he pushes for benefits us too.These guys sell a game engine. Never forget that when Rein talks.
If you want high end, buy a PC. Why everyone on GAF has a fetish for systems too expensive to afford is beyond me.
The new iPad is more powerful than an Xbox360 or a Playstation 3. It's more powerful than a Vita, has a bigger screen, and more than triple the battery life. They also come out with a new one every year, instead of in huge 7 year cycles.
Does "console guys" includes Nintendo?
I don't understand. If he already knows what is in the next gen console's, why is he seemingly begging for more power?
Is he seriously asking MS and Sony to go back to the drawing board?
The new iPad is more powerful than an Xbox360 or a Playstation 3. It's more powerful than a Vita, has a bigger screen, and more than triple the battery life. They also come out with a new one every year, instead of in huge 7 year cycles.
There's a reason for this... compelling software!I am just saying a lot of people really do not seem aware of how old the tech inside the xbox 360 and ps3 actually are.
where are people getting this idea from?
Their own delusions. They think more MB of ram, even if it has 1/20 of the bandwidth and it's not actually available for games, means more powah.
Their own delusions. They think more MB of ram, even if it has 1/20 of the bandwidth and it's not actually available for games, means more powah.
Straight from Apple's keynote yesterday (the comment was about memory).where are people getting this idea from?
It lost $3B in the first two years. It has made a lot more than that since then, nonetheless it was a huge money sink at the beginning.
Ya I do have a very good PC. But sometimes I like to play consoles to. Why should we have to settle with 6 year old hard ware? It's funny, new consoles will come weather people like it or not. I for one cannot wait.
There's a reason for this... compelling software!
So $800 a year instead of $300 every 6-8?
Interesting data you came up with considering this gen was the only one with a $600 console.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the reality distortion field in full effect.The new iPad is more powerful than an Xbox360 or a Playstation 3. It's more powerful than a Vita, has a bigger screen, and more than triple the battery life. They also come out with a new one every year, instead of in huge 7 year cycles.