DeepEnigma
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You did not answer my questions. Sigh.
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Facebook required for all new Oculus users starting in Oct. All Oculus accounts end in 2023
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You did not answer my questions. Sigh.
DynamiteCop!
Banned
This is exactly what I was thinking. Make a spoof account if this bothers you and that's the end of it.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Until they ban the spoof account and you lose all your licensing.
00_Zer0
Member
No crying here and no rage either. All consumers, no matter if it's a fringe group of people, have a right to decide with their wallets. If I end up not agreeing to this policy I will absolutely drop the Rift S and the Oculus store, and gladly purchase a Windows mixed reality headset or an Index.
This move by Zuckerberg and co. was set in motion the day they bought Oculus from Palmer Lucky. It was just Facebook playing the long game with consumers. Now that Quest is so popular they are going to leverage that with forcing users to use a Facebook account.
JLB
Banned
ha, yeap.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So many people think they have it all figured out. 
cryogenic7
Member
When I was a kid I wondered how the mark of the beast would work, now it's obvious.
Larxia
Member
I don't have anything against facebook, it's actually my favorite "social media", but I do not use it for personnal daily life stuff etc, I just use it as a hub where I follow everything I like so I can see news from every websites I like in one place, it's very convenient for that (and I hate twitter because of how limited and SJW infested it is so I avoid it).
However, I guess I understand why people don't really want to have to make a facebook account or link theirs just to use their VR headset. I didn't even know an account was required, is it just for purchases or is it like an always online thing? Can't you use your oculus offline?
However, I guess I understand why people don't really want to have to make a facebook account or link theirs just to use their VR headset. I didn't even know an account was required, is it just for purchases or is it like an always online thing? Can't you use your oculus offline?
Oppoi
Member
Play game? I'm sorry Bryank75, I'm afraid I can't do that.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
Right it's their product don't you have to create a psn account to play online games? I don't see the big deal here.
DynamiteCop!
Banned
They would ban it why exactly?
Starfield
Member
Thanks for making my choice easier Facebook!
www8.hp.com
Never ever going to touch Oculus
HP Reverb G2 VR Headset
The ultra-light, ultra-immersive HP Reverb G2 VR (Virtual Reality) headset delivers a more immersive, comfortable, and compatible experience. Learn more here.
www8.hp.com
Never ever going to touch Oculus
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Only google out of those is creepy and wanting to spy on people. I wouldn’t want an EGS account either due to their Chinese connections. Poor effort.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Facebook has been cracking down recently over fake profiles. Read the thread, and the answers shall be revealed.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Been there done that.Have you had your account locked then asked for proof that you are real?
Facebook is asking people to submit their I.D.s to prove their accounts are real
If Facebook suspects your account may be fraudulent, they may lock it and say that to restore the account, you need to send them identification to verify that you are who you say you are. But with all the recent scandals surrounding Facebook data breaches, why would the social media platform ask...kmph.com
Read what I wrote, I am talking when they disable your account for suspicion you are not real.
Oppoi
Member
*eccentric piano music playing*
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Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
All those are hugely popular and massively used was my point and even those you apparently trust like poor innocent not-a-capitalist-mega-corp-out-for-profit-at-all-costs Sony have had their own super fails in regards to data breaches or intentional fuckery like DRM schemes...
Seems like you're just being a super fanboy of some of these and that's where your judement ends. Fine by me, just saying.
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xrnzaaas
Member
I wonder what happens if you've deleted your account or had your account permabanned. Can you start another one with the same e-mail and phone number?
Anyway this is hardly surprising. They own Oculus so of course they'll want you to have their account. I'd never buy an Oculus for that reason if I was in the market for a PCVR device.
Anyway this is hardly surprising. They own Oculus so of course they'll want you to have their account. I'd never buy an Oculus for that reason if I was in the market for a PCVR device.
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Hold up you have to make a Facebook account to use Oculus shit?
Cant they just migrate your accounts internally without disturbing people the way Google gave everyone Google+ accounts when they tried that shit.
Cant they just migrate your accounts internally without disturbing people the way Google gave everyone Google+ accounts when they tried that shit.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Fake name? What for? It is already gonna be spying on you anyway!
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
So how does this work then? Would everyone see your real ID in multiplayer games?
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
I don’t suck corporate dick if that’s what you’re saying. I choose products and services based on whether they are useful and what the risk profile is. Hence preferring GOG to Steam, Microsoft and Apple to Google (I can respect a company that wants my money more than ones that want my soul) and so on. I don’t own anything Sony - had a phone a couple of years ago and it was dreadful.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
Here ya go:
Pico Neo 2
Think of it like this: (purely using the walled garden analogy here....both of these headsets use an android os)
The Oculus Quest is the Apple device for stand alone headsets.
The Pico Neo line is the Android device for stand alone headsets.
The hardware is better (better rez better processor better fit)
The battery is better
It has external storage as well.
BUT.....its a bare bones experience. You have to get your hands dirty to get apps you want installed. We have spoken to a few clients about moving away from the Quest headsets (not related to this....more related to their Oculus for Business headset program).
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00_Zer0
Member
Thanks for making my choice easier Facebook!
HP Reverb G2 VR Headset
The ultra-light, ultra-immersive HP Reverb G2 VR (Virtual Reality) headset delivers a more immersive, comfortable, and compatible experience. Learn more here.
Never ever going to touch Oculus
I have been closely following this headset and I like what I see so far. It's coming out relatively soon. It's a headset created with help from Valve and Microsoft. It's looking like a good mix of the Rift S and Index at a $599 price point. If any one likes to watch Tested here's a good preview of this headset:
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Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Ok so I was wrong to say Sony there, the other companies are actually even worse in those terms (woo, go Microsoft, you're so innocent and never have had questionable practices, lmfao, I prefer you over Steam!) so I thought that's the one you were profiling but I guess your point is even worse.
Yeah, Reverb G2 would be good, if it cost 100 less (a bit more than RIft S). And in Europe where they bumped it to 699 freaking euros, 200 less. Other than that you're paying waaay too much for nice resolution but decidedly last generation tracking, even if it's a bit improved from older WMR kits.
As demonstrated in that Tested video actually (@17:36, MRTV was such a shill ignoring those flaws). Maybe they'll improve tracking with software updates, Oculus did that to great effect since the S and Quest launch, but I wouldn't get products based on such a possibility, only when it's realized.
Pico Neo 2 is currently aimed for businesses rather than consumers and the very few apps that are ported to it perform even worse than Quest despite the better specs so there's a long way to go for an actual competitor to appear. Very cever and promising tracking technology (but not design).
Yeah, Reverb G2 would be good, if it cost 100 less (a bit more than RIft S). And in Europe where they bumped it to 699 freaking euros, 200 less. Other than that you're paying waaay too much for nice resolution but decidedly last generation tracking, even if it's a bit improved from older WMR kits.
As demonstrated in that Tested video actually (@17:36, MRTV was such a shill ignoring those flaws). Maybe they'll improve tracking with software updates, Oculus did that to great effect since the S and Quest launch, but I wouldn't get products based on such a possibility, only when it's realized.
Pico Neo 2 is currently aimed for businesses rather than consumers and the very few apps that are ported to it perform even worse than Quest despite the better specs so there's a long way to go for an actual competitor to appear. Very cever and promising tracking technology (but not design).
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Honestly at this point you’re making no fucking sense. I honestly do not have the foggiest what you’re trying to say which makes discussion quite tricky.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
Come over to Playstation.
Resenge
Member
You have my interest
Ahh those controllers,
Not really a gaming headset. If gaming devs support it I would be interested but from the 5 seconds I've researched, it looks like its more of a business headset than a pleasure one.I will keep my eye on it now I know it exists though, thanks.
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00_Zer0
Member
Not taking a dump on PSVR, but I have a PS4 Pro and I would never consider it to be a viable replacement to Steam VR. If all you have is a PS4, or in the the future PS5 it might be ok, but it's not a viable option for those who want to play VR games on PC.
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Fuz
Banned
Oh. Nice. Gives me a good reason to keep staying away from it.
Anyway, do other visors require some sort of login? If so, WHY THE FUCK? It's a fucking piece of hardware, like a gamepad.
Coincidentally, this is my ref on fb bookmark.
Anyway, do other visors require some sort of login? If so, WHY THE FUCK? It's a fucking piece of hardware, like a gamepad.
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DynamiteCop!
Banned
It doesn't have to be a fake profile, it also doesn't have to be any kind of information rich or publicly open profile either.
Fuz
Banned
You're the problem.
ValiantTraveler
Member
Sony should take advantage of this and throw a jab at Oculus by saying PS VR doesn’t require Facebook. Kinda like they did with the Xbox One requiring internet.
Fuz
Banned
Happened to me. They locked my account (with all my pictures and stuff unavailable for deletion and NO WAY TO CONTACT THEM) until I submitted an ID.*Have you had your account locked then asked for proof that you are real?
Facebook is asking people to submit their I.D.s to prove their accounts are real
If Facebook suspects your account may be fraudulent, they may lock it and say that to restore the account, you need to send them identification to verify that you are who you say you are. But with all the recent scandals surrounding Facebook data breaches, why would the social media platform ask...
Read what I wrote, I am talking when they disable your account for suspicion you are not real.
Made me fucking furious. They have ZERO rights to ask for an ID. They're not state officers.
Good luck when they ban your fake account (it's against their TOS) and you lose everything.
And that's not even the big problem about this shit.
* but here's the best part! Before sending my ID (really, REALLY didn't want to) I made another account that I used for about 6-8 months. Eventually, that got locked too. And eventually I sent and ID for that too. And this account... well, it's been a few years that when I try to log in it it just says "Thank you! We're checking your ID and will unlock when done". Yes, few years. And ofc no way to contact anyone to ask for a complete deletion of my pictures and stuff.
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
woaaah that is one spicy comment
rubenburgt
Member
Well that's gonna be an issue for me. I'm banned from Facebook for funny reasons that I rather not share.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You have it all figured out.
namekuseijin
Banned
I don't own Oculus, but don't get the drama. Oculus has been bought by Facebook like eons ago. It's been successful by Zuck's money. It always had microphone and tracking data available for them - so why the drama now? Was the Oculus account not owned by Facebook already?
btw, what kind of precious info and behavior insights for commercial partners would they get from "spying" you playing Beat Saber?
btw, what kind of precious info and behavior insights for commercial partners would they get from "spying" you playing Beat Saber?
Fuz
Banned
And they're dragging us all down with them. So, yeah, they're the problem.