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Fallout 4: Pete Hines Defends His Solid 30 FPS Comment...
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JigglesBunny
Banned
Drops to 0fps in a few rare instances on Xbox One so, yes.
Zombie James
Banned
Oh shit, that bad?
So these issues in FO4 will likely persist for the foreseeable future?
funkystudent
Member
They patch stuff. Mostly fixing broken quests and some minor performance tweaks but don't expect a miracle.
These are issues that have been haunting their console ports for 15 years and have never been fixed. They are not going to fix them now.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yep, and as that file size grows over time, time will tell if the performance acts the same.
That is because reviewers just copy/pasted the 360 review, instead of actually playing it. A bad practice that has been going around since late last gen. That is why we rely on sites like DF more than ever now.
Summer Haze
Banned
What are you talking about? Skyrim on the PS3 is great!
Haha. Wow.
mysteriousmage09
Member
What are you talking about? Skyrim on the PS3 is great!
Holy shit.
What are you talking about? Skyrim on the PS3 is great!
This is damning.
What are you talking about? Skyrim on the PS3 is great!
Fucking hell thats amazing. People will still defend them though.
TimeEffect
Member
What are you talking about? Skyrim on the PS3 is great!
What a fucking... fuck, that just really pisses me off.
Solid Samus
Banned
Pete Hines. Pete Hines never changes.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Time will tell if their patching model will improve this gen, however the same issues their games have suffered from seem to be persistent, as well as the attitude of, "we don't know what you are talking about, smooth and solid on our end".
So it does not look hopeful for that to change, however, it is now up to the gaming media sites to do their due diligence for their readers and write articles to lay pressure on them.
shiftplusone
Member
What's that last one even about?
iPhone commercial? what?
not even fuckin close lol
he's not even the biggest asshole in the western world of the gaming industry
iPhone commercial? what?
not even fuckin close lol
he's not even the biggest asshole in the western world of the gaming industry
MutonCommander
Banned
CGwizz
Member
Does anyone believe the lies of this guy? Him and Todd Howard, what a fucking duo xD
The BS is strong in that company.
But hey, its PR, PR gona PR !!!
I still remember the voodoo shaman coders that worked on witcher ps4 version xD
These days we need to wait for the digital foundry review if we dont want to be beta testers.
The BS is strong in that company.
But hey, its PR, PR gona PR !!!
I still remember the voodoo shaman coders that worked on witcher ps4 version xD
These days we need to wait for the digital foundry review if we dont want to be beta testers.
Dick Justice
Banned
Neuromancer
Member
What are they talking about here?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That explains it.
I guess about names like this...
And of course, Pete responds in a abrasive like fashion...
Summer Haze
Banned
IKR?
Oh my God. XD
Solid Samus
Banned
That explains it.
That is an uncanny observation, lmao.
DrunkShogun
Member
Never boast in a world where people can call you out if your bullshitting.
I think the guy is upset a certain name not being recognized in the game. Hines responds sarcastically, like he's going to try to get the specific name the guy wants into the game.
That right there is all you need to read to understand why he said what he said. Anyone that believed anything he had to say after the issues Skyrim had on PS3 is a fool to do so.
When it comes around to their next game he'll say the same things, people will choose to be willfully ignorant and believe him again only to come to the same conclusion that has happened before and Bethesda will continue to get the pass they've been getting since daggerfall.
Impossiburu
Neo Member
That's the EXACT section I'm thinking of. The height of the factory on the outside sees it dip massively, and the interior is just as bad.
Beyond that moment, it's better.
HellofaMouse
Member
i like pete hines, and i think its only normal hes gonna defend the game.
i wouldnt call it "solid 30fps" on ps4, but its still a solid game and framedrops dont even come close to making the game unplayable for me.
maybe its because i grew up gaming on crappy pcs and older gen consoles, but i dont understand the extent of ppl losing their shit over occasional framedrops, especially in an rpg like this. maybei would if it was something faster paced like a fighting game or oldschool arena shooters like quake, unreal etc..
i wouldnt call it "solid 30fps" on ps4, but its still a solid game and framedrops dont even come close to making the game unplayable for me.
maybe its because i grew up gaming on crappy pcs and older gen consoles, but i dont understand the extent of ppl losing their shit over occasional framedrops, especially in an rpg like this. maybei would if it was something faster paced like a fighting game or oldschool arena shooters like quake, unreal etc..
meanspartan
Member
Well when I couldn't cure Vampirism in the Oblivion GOTY Edition for Ps3 because the NPC wouldn't accept the bloodgrass even though I had it in my inventory, Bethesda's solution was get a copy of the game that isn't a GOTY and maybe it'll work.
Coulda patched it, but they didn't.
Summer Haze
Banned
I had to quit playing Skyrim for around 6 months due to the nirnroot glow bug. That's how long it took them to address and patch it.
Why shouldn't they be arrogant?
Consumers and reviewers have told them time and time again that they can release shoddy software and still get 8s and 9s review scores (even some perfect scores, too). They will still sell 10-20 million copies. For fuck sake they released a broken game on the PS3 (Skyrim) and STILL got heaps of praise and massive sales.
Bethesda have every reason in the world to be arrogant.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That definitely is an issue. Let us all pretend this stuff does not happen everyone.
First of all, how and why do you like him? Personal? You know him in real life? I am curious about this one.
Because as a gamer, and consumer, this PR shit is exactly why one would detest a person or company. This is not sticking up for your product, but straight up being a douche and obtuse and disingenuous to your community.
And this is not "losing your shit" over frame dips, it is the track record for the past 15 years, and straight up not acknowledging the problems to even fix them, let alone basically crapping on your consumers with the condescending tone.
I lol'ed.
Nice try Todd...
Games on consoles were marketed to be 30 framerate, and to drop below from 30 affects gameplay significantly compared to drop from 60. I would rather play on my TI-83 calculator if it has "occasional framedrops", breaks immersion and just not pleasant at all.
Edit: I'm fine with 1-2 framedrops here and there but fallout 4 seems to be far worse off than that
NullPointer
Member
I never played Skyrim on PS3 but I thought the problem there was a memory issue that could kill the game dead, but only after playing for an extensive period (extensive being extra relative here considering the huge scope of the game). If so, his remarks here don't seem out of place.What are you talking about? Skyrim on the PS3 is great!
TemplaerDude
Member
What? A Bethesda employee talking bullshit? No way.
Gurgelhals
Member
There is just something slimy about Bethesda/Zenimax that sets them off from other major publishers. It's this combination of regularly putting out buggy and janky products, not giving a shit about proper post-release support (Why should we? We've got the modding community for that!), hiding the shortcomings of their products behind large-scale and *very* bullshit-heavy (but admittedly also very effective) marketing campaigns, showing a blatant disregard for their customers and, despite of it all, *still* managing to always get away with it and remain every gaming journalist's darling.
I really have no idea how they manage to do this. I mean, say what you like about EA, Ubisoft and Activision, but they get called out for shit like this. Bethesda though ... they seem to have some sort of magic criticism-repelling teflon coating or whatever. It's really weird.
I really have no idea how they manage to do this. I mean, say what you like about EA, Ubisoft and Activision, but they get called out for shit like this. Bethesda though ... they seem to have some sort of magic criticism-repelling teflon coating or whatever. It's really weird.
mekes
Member
I find the game to be mildly janky on PS4. Had one instance where it went to near unplayable, when you obtain (Spoiler for around 1hour in)
It must have dropped to 15-20fps at times during that scene and felt extremely uncomfortable to play, think PS3 Blight Town at its worst.
I'd so much prefer a locked 30fps, even if it meant dialing back the visuals a touch. If the game could drop no lower than high 20's I'd settle for that, but some parts are making it drop quite a bit lower and it completely shits on the experience when it happens. Especially since it has happened in an action set piece.
the power suit for the first time and fight the Deathclaw.
I'd so much prefer a locked 30fps, even if it meant dialing back the visuals a touch. If the game could drop no lower than high 20's I'd settle for that, but some parts are making it drop quite a bit lower and it completely shits on the experience when it happens. Especially since it has happened in an action set piece.
metareferential
Member
Today I learned that people take tech advises from someone who writes the game's manual.
Case in point, when it comes to the Western game developers, no one comes close.What are you talking about? Skyrim on the PS3 is great!
Crimsonclaw111
Member
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TheDkmariolink
Banned
Pete Hines must be made of shit, so much BS spewing from him.
I like the guy, but not his PR(ness).
I like the guy, but not his PR(ness).
