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[thenight11]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9d24...e-detain-soccer-officials-ahead-fifa-congress


"says the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York is investigating these individuals on suspicion of the acceptance of bribes and kick-backs between the early 1990s and now."

Damn they have shit since the early 90s!?

https://www.bj.admin.ch/bj/en/home/aktuell/news/2015/2015-27-05.html


"The bribery suspects – representatives of sports media and sports promotion firms – are alleged to have been involved in schemes to make payments to the soccer functionaries – delegates of FIFA (Fédération Internationale de Football Association) and other functionaries of FIFA sub-organizations – totaling more than USD 100 million"

 

[The_Dama]

Bit of a tangent, but I wonder if EA will rebrand the FIFA series after all of this. Those since I think more people in the US know of FIFA as a soccer game than as a regulatory board, that's probably a bad idea.

NEVER

 

[Wafflecakes]

Yes I know but fact that the USA have powers to arrest and bring to trial people from around the world, even if the only link is a US ISP, then that's ridiculous.

Not really. This isn't new, and we extradite people to other countries as well.

The international law enforcement agencies working together probably think they have the best case in the US, so they chose to prosecute them there.

 

[Volimar]

I honestly never thought it'd happen.

 

[nasax]

Michael Bradley Soccer 2016.

Kick The Ball 2016

 

[Dartastic]

FOR REAL THO.

 

[jonno394]

Not really. This isn't new, and we extradite people to other countries as well.

The international law enforcement agencies working together probably think they have the best case in the US, so they chose to prosecute them there.

Im in the UK and whenever extradition is discussed regarding USA it pretty much seems to be a one way street. You get who you want but getting someone in return appears to be a lengthier and more obstacle filled process

 

[Mushroomer25]

Other Football 2016

David Beckham 2016?

Does he still play? I don't know soccer. That Howard guy from the World Cup seemed to be popular, let's get Howard 2016 on the shelves.

 

[giga]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9d24...e-detain-soccer-officials-ahead-fifa-congress


"says the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York is investigating these individuals on suspicion of the acceptance of bribes and kick-backs between the early 1990s and now."

Damn they have shit since the early 90s!?

Check out Jack Warner's wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Warner_(football_executive)#Football_administrator

 

[Jarate]

USA's ultimate plan to kill Soccer and replace it with NFL Football

Thankyou Obama

 

[manzoman96]

USA's ultimate plan to kill Soccer and replace it with NFL Football

Thankyou Obama

This made me laugh

 

[Macho Madness]

Im in the UK and whenever extradition is discussed regarding USA it pretty much seems to be a one way street. You get who you want but getting someone in return rarely happens

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...UK-over-crimes-allegedly-committed-in-US.html

A US embassy spokeswoman said: “The US has never refused an extradition request from the UK for any type of crime under this treaty.
“The UK has refused 7 requests from the US. The facts clearly show that the treaty is fair and in no way lopsided.”

Seems that UK has little interest in extraditing US citizens.

 

[jonno394]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...UK-over-crimes-allegedly-committed-in-US.html



Seems that UK has little interest in extraditing US citizens.

Clearly. ...

 

[CrazyDude]

Im in the UK and whenever extradition is discussed regarding USA it pretty much seems to be a one way street. You get who you want but getting someone in return appears to be a lengthier and more obstacle filled process

According to the U.S embassy in the U.K, 38 people have been extradited from the U.S to the U.K.

 

[giga]

Im in the UK and whenever extradition is discussed regarding USA it pretty much seems to be a one way street. You get who you want but getting someone in return appears to be a lengthier and more obstacle filled process

Are you going to substantiate this with actual data and sources?

 

[jonno394]

Are you going to substantiate this with actual data and sources?

I'll dig out all the criticism I've read regarding extradition laws and post it one day :thumbsup:

It's mostly just articles in newspapers And personal criticism by MPs etc such as in the article someone posted above.

I'm sorry for not liking the all powerful US legal system as much as I should.

 

[BronsonLee]

USA's ultimate plan to kill Soccer and replace it with NFL Football

Thankyou Obama

Follow the money!

Oh. It led to Doha Airport?

Well, uh...shit

 

[cdyhybrid]

Damn they have shit since the early 90s!?

The Feds don't fuck around.

 

[msdstc]

Stupid question, but can somebody elaborate on this? Were they fixing games?

 

[AstroNut325]

@SportsCenter:



Boom.

 

[Mushroomer25]

Stupid question, but can somebody elaborate on this? Were they fixing games?

It's sounding like they're being convicted on bribery charges Re: Qatar 2022, with additional evidence stretching back to cases in the 90s.

 

[DarkFlow]

Uh, no.

Uh, Yes.

How do the US courts have jurisdiction here?

If they used one bank that is in the US, the US can go after them.

 

[Judderman]

@AndrewDasNYT:

Swiss Federal Office of Justice statement fills in some blanks:

 

[giga]

I'll dig out all the criticism I've read regarding extradition laws and post it one day :thumbsup:

It's mostly just articles in newspapers And personal criticism by MPs etc such as in the article someone posted above.

I'm sorry for not liking the all powerful US legal system as much as I should.

The criticism from these politicians seems unfounded, when looking at the fact that the U.S. has never refused an U.K. extradition request.

 

[B-Dubs]

Stupid question, but can somebody elaborate on this? Were they fixing games?

They were accepting bribes when choosing World Cup hosts, how else could you explain Russia getting it over England and Qatar over the US. By their own standards they picked the worst choices for the next two World Cups. There's other stuff besides that. There was no game fixing, players and coaches would never go along with that.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

@AndrewDasNYT:

Since the 1990's?! Goddam

 

[jonno394]

Are you going to substantiate this with actual data and sources?

Actually this sums up what I said about lengthier and more obstacle filled process:

A critical test set out in the treaty is that the British request must include "such information as would provide a reasonable basis to believe that the person sought committed the offence for which extradition is requested."
This requirement does not apply to requests submitted by the US to the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16041824

So uk has to provide enough evidence for usa to release but not the other way round. Seems fair.

 

[bjaelke]

Stupid question, but can somebody elaborate on this? Were they fixing games?

The FOJ said the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York is investigating the individuals on suspicion of the acceptance of bribes and kick-backs between the early 1990s and now.

.

 

[Azuran]

LMAO

All they had to do was give the WC to the US and all of this could have been avoided.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Qatar disaster might be avoided after all.

 

[BronsonLee]

This is all just the U.S. causing trouble because they didn't get the World Cup! They're just salty about it a-*is arrested and pelted with futbols*

 

[Knight77]

Let's hope is really the end of the Blatter era...

 

[timetokill]

I guess the U.S. will just have to save the beautiful game from itself.

You're welcome, world. No need to thank us. Just being that shining city on the hill.

 

[B-Dubs]

LMAO

All they had to do was give the WC to the US and all of this could have been avoided.

Nah, this investigation has been going on since the 90's.

 

[StriKeVillain]

This is all just the U.S. causing trouble because they didn't get the World Cup! They're just salty about it a-*is arrested and pelted with futbols*

No, this all stems from the US government being forced to listen to those stupid vuvuzelas.

 

[DarkFlow]

Im in the UK and whenever extradition is discussed regarding USA it pretty much seems to be a one way street. You get who you want but getting someone in return appears to be a lengthier and more obstacle filled process

Blame your own government for that fucked up treaty. They agreed to it.

 

[jonno394]

Blame your own government for that fucked up treaty. They agreed to it.

More likely the US bent the UK government over a barrel. We've tried to change the terms (see article) but of course the us refuse for "reasons"

 

[vas_a_morir]

Nah, this investigation has been going on since the 90's.

Qatar is just when it became too ridiculous to ignore.

 

[darkside31337]

Bit of a tangent, but I wonder if EA will rebrand the FIFA series after all of this. Those since I think more people in the US know of FIFA as a soccer game than as a regulatory board, that's probably a bad idea.

John Madden Football 2016

 

[B-Dubs]

Qatar is just when it became too ridiculous to ignore.

The FBI thinks they found a record of one of the bribes for that one running through an NYC bank, FIFA has only themselves to blame.

 

[BronsonLee]

No, this all stems from the US government being forced to listen to those stupid vuvuzelas.

So it's a joint investigation with every other nation on earth, then!

More likely the US bent the UK government over a barrel. We've tried to change the terms (see article) but of course the us refuse for "reasons"

*spits into pan* you got a problem with freedom, boy?!

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Welp, time to retire this image then:

 

[giga]

Actually this sums up what I said about lengthier and more obstacle filled process:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16041824

So uk has to provide enough evidence for usa to release but not the other way round. Seems fair.

That does seem unfair, but despite that, no U.K. extradition request has been refused. In the end, has that technicality really made a difference?

 

[Envelope]

Obligatory "fuck you blatter"

 

[Noshino]

Actually this sums up what I said about lengthier and more obstacle filled process:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16041824

So uk has to provide enough evidence for usa to release but not the other way round. Seems fair. Usa can extradite you even without evidence :bravo:

Yet, despite being a lot easier for the US to request extraditions, they've been denied 7 times.

Also, the US does need evidence, just not as much as the UK does

 

[jonno394]

That does seem unfair, but despite that, no U.K. extradition request has been refused. In the end, has that technicality really made a difference?

My point was the process is much easier one way than the other, and that substantiates it.

 

[Abounder]

I love the Swiss and the Americans. Hopefully this is one step closer to avenging the deaths from the Qatar catastrophe

 

[DarkFlow]

More likely the US bent the UK government over a barrel. We've tried to change the terms (see article) but of course the us refuse for "reasons"

I doubt that, Tony Blair was super happy to agree to that thing. You can argue he was a US lapdog, but you guys elected his party, and kept doing it long after you agreed to it.

Also I don't really see how it's lopsided anyway, like others have said the US has never denied a request to ship them off to the UK. The only reason the US would have more is because we are 5 times larger you are in population.

 

[Piecake]

More likely the US bent the UK government over a barrel. We've tried to change the terms (see article) but of course the us refuse for "reasons"

How did they do that exactly? Britain just quivered in fear and signed the dotted line?

 

[Face it Tiger..]

This x1000 for my eurobros