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Fighting Games Weekly | Jan 5-11 | A World Warrior Demographic
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That Dude John
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I don't think it would work in SF or any 2D fighter that doesn't have the other half of the stage that isn't normally visible fully modeled
For Tekken, it's not only the ease of inputs on a specific side and slight change in animations for things like throw break, but also the fact that you cannot sidestep towards the foreground from a crouched state. As I stated earlier, this has potential to effect certain match ups more than you would think.
For example, Dragunov's main poke is d+2. On both normal, and counter hit, it forces both him and the opponent into a crouched state. From a crouched state, Dragunov has no options that track to his right, so if the opponent is on 1P side, they can sidestep towards his weak side. If Dragunov's opponent is on the 2P side in this situation though, they are forced to try to sidestep towards his left, which can be covered by his u/f4.That's just a very basic example, but the one that I am most familiar with since I play with the character.
I'm very curious to see how these kinda of situations will play out with this new camera system.
For example, Dragunov's main poke is d+2. On both normal, and counter hit, it forces both him and the opponent into a crouched state. From a crouched state, Dragunov has no options that track to his right, so if the opponent is on 1P side, they can sidestep towards his weak side. If Dragunov's opponent is on the 2P side in this situation though, they are forced to try to sidestep towards his left, which can be covered by his u/f4.That's just a very basic example, but the one that I am most familiar with since I play with the character.
I'm very curious to see how these kinda of situations will play out with this new camera system.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Bedman must be his main in Xrd.
Finally, been waiting for this since his Ryu video.
Same here! Even pro players have that struggle, I remember Aris saying he can only do KBD on the left side, so that's a game changer (only online and arcades of course)
EDIT: some early morning Japanese Marvel
I don't think the game has been patched so yeah. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
KidA Seven
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A small patch would make it so much better- I hope they do it.
Just remove the infinites- all that's needed.
People are already policing that shit themselves. It's pretty much getting the soft-banned treatment like Akuma in ST and to a smaller extent ST Claw in the Japanese scene.
Patching a small infinite in a for-fun mode is not worth the cash it'd cost to pay Sony and MS to publish it, not to mention the development effort either (QA testing and red tape).
Patching a small infinite in a for-fun mode is not worth the cash it'd cost to pay Sony and MS to publish it, not to mention the development effort either (QA testing and red tape).
It's the only mode where Deejay is as useful as Dan so that has to count for something, right?
There's still the PS4 version of Ultra coming out in a couple of months, so there's still a possibility for one more patch. Omega mode is still silly because the time and effort in making a separate fun mode could have just went into making Ultra more fun, or to some other needed improvement.
Define make ultra more fun. I'm Having a hard time seeing how omega mode cannibalized on resources and ideas with out making ultra become omega mode.
It is just for starting position, though. Doesn't mean that if you choose the right side, you're gonna stay on the right throughout the duration of the match. It's not street fighter where you just jump over the person to switch sides. But you can still do grabs, wall jumps or certain attacks that will shift the left/right positioning.
At least that's from what I understand of it. But as Manny said, this feature could be a complete mess or quite revolutionary depending on how well it is implemented. I bet Namco has already patented this anyway.
CountBlack
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Or that wakeup ultra that left you shook
Also, Topanga TV ruining my day already by playing xrd instead of Street Fighter
Pretty much. The worst part is that the meme is spilling over into commentary and such. Such a cornball meme to gain so much traction. You'd think people would be bored of it by this point.
CountBlack
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It's not really just the fact that Deejay sucks. It's the fact that Deejay got nerfed on top of already being terrible. Then characters like Viper/Yun only got stronger.
Just showing that Capcom really has no idea how to balance properly.
Yea I noticed that when my cousin told me they just used taunt animations and put special attacks with them.
Think that was the last time I played Omega mode.
CountBlack
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Yes it has been considered. It definitely has.
Viper's been top tier and stayed there for like 5 years breh.
Yup. She doesn't get played enough for people understand her weaker aspects, they just get frustrated by the type of character she is and react to her with emotions. She's good, but she's not a top tier character. Even the guy that popularized her in the West (Flash) has felt this way about her since late Super/AE.
CountBlack
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We listening to Flash for SF opinions now? The guy who's changed mains everyday since like the 5th grade?
What are Viper's weaker aspects?
-She's got the instant air burn kick which is almost all reward and rarely any risk. Goes into ultra in some situations, Negates fireballs and is safe on block.
-Invincible DP that can go into ultra
-Seismo to beat fireballs from full screen. She can pretty much outzone-zoners with that shit.
-Thunder knuckles that are safe on block and if you confirm it, RFC into hell.
-Some of the strongest punish combos off of one bar.
She just might have the best special attacks in the game.
Ryan Hart:
Karsticles
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It doesn't cost anything to publish patches anymore outside of internal costs. MS and Sony got rid of fees a while ago.
Yes, definitely. Sim/Honda are almost assuredly in that "we don't like what you do to the game when you're top tier" pile. In Arcade Ultra, Honda had one of the top 10 winrates (among the top 10 Hondas), despite the nerfs.
CountBlack
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I don't think there's anyone in FGW that can beat my Deejay tbh
Unless they main Rose
Unless they main Rose
BigBadShamoo
Banned
Watched the TTT1 match linked in the interview and that Lei player was so lucky on spacing and time that last round either that or just really good. It was pretty exciting to watch. True ogre just ran over him and didn't get hit by the footstomp I've never seen that before.
I'm part of team DaiGOAT if he's going back to Ryu. Seeing his old videos of his Ryu still gives me chills till this day. The man was a god with that character.
What....? Huh?! WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?! ON WAKEUP?! THIS MOTHER FU...
KidA Seven
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Have you seen his topanga matches? That alone should make you believe in DaiGOAT.
pls ignore capcom cup
pls
sixteen-bit
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Hsien-Ko was such a cool character in DS why they make her so disappointing in MvC3?
BigBadShamoo
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Also I read that December 19th there was supposed to be a release that included TTT2, T6 and SC5. Has anyone seen this yet I've checked Amazon and can't seem to find a listing. I'd like to rebuy that for TTT2 cuz I loved that game so much. Plus it's a pretty sweet deal on all three games. I've owned TTT2 and T6 but traded them into GameStop and I never played Soul Calibur 5. So this is a killer deal.
CountBlack
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Everyone knows Viper isn't really a footsie character because her specials pretty much do the talking for her in that aspect. I feel Viper can play a patient game 3/4 screen until they either eat a Seismo/AA/Any form of knockdown then you can go in. Not really sure how much risk there is when doing feintxfeint waiting for them to screw up. They they decide to walk forward, you can halt them with a MK TK, if they jump you have good AA's to go to. When you get the knock down it's about to be guessing central.
The fact that at 3/4 to almost full screen I'm at risk to take 120 damage is stupid. Characters with great recovery on their FB's like Guile/Poison but the rest cannot. Not only can she punish fireballs from full screen she can SJC into even more damage. This is stupid. You can stand 3/4 screen, do feint~feint~feint~feint oh he finally threw a fireball? get rekt. Oh, I missed timed my seismo and there's a fireball coming at me? Lemme just SJC outta the way of danger. Her options are ridiculous.
An attack that's -1 that's hit confirmable into RFC? What does Dudley have that's like that? I think you're downplaying how MP TK's can be used in neutral when not cancelled. If the opponent is advancing towards you, there's not a lot of risk in throwing it out there since he goes over lows and is safe.
If they're going for a safe jump couldn't you ex.Seismo/feint it to get the invincibility?
Which characters have better specials? When Ryan Hart was talking about it being the best special, the only other one I had in mind that was that strong was Adon's Jaguar Kick, but at least with that you know it's going to stay in your face and rarely cross up.
..I don't think anybody trynna hear my opinion on this rn.
The buffs he got are good but.. he still aint shit
CountBlack
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hitsugi
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This is the truth. Plus the fact that no one's going to win anything worthwhile with that stupid infinite because it would most likely be banned if they decide not to patch it.
I have, E. Ryu vs Boxer matchup wasn't in Daigo's favor as he said before Capcom Cup. If Daigo is playing Ryu, everyone here will forget that and worship him once again. I completely forgot that J. Wong actually had a Boxer and used it against Daigo that one EVO if I'm remembering it correctly.
Pls buff Deejay. If he wasn't a charge character, he would be ridiculously good.
direct_quote
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But if we buffed Deejay what character would we complain about?