QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Just cause you are ass at them beef doesnt mean you gotta keep bashing them :3
At least Karst admits they are hard Kappa
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Fighting Games Weekly | July 15-21 | Post-EVO Pillow Talk
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Just cause you are ass at them beef doesnt mean you gotta keep bashing them :3
This made me laugh especially since I already started mimicing the sound while watching with my buddies streaming at home. And then I started hearing it from the background and the commentators pointed out that the crowd was doing it too. Man I wish I was there, haha. Always loved that kind of stuff, like the Vega/Balrog sounds during Super Turbo in older years.
Second biggest problem is the SFV roster. How will they keep it reasonable to develop but still create a respectable combination of old and new?
SF3 failed miserably at it, SFIV and MvC3 did okay, but even then the bitching from people was through the roof.
Even creating a list of essential characters is difficult. SFIV did especially well in that regard, but will they just do that again and replace Rufus/El Fuerte/Viper/Abel/Gouken/Seth with 6 other new cats and call it a day or go further?
SF3 failed miserably at it, SFIV and MvC3 did okay, but even then the bitching from people was through the roof.
Even creating a list of essential characters is difficult. SFIV did especially well in that regard, but will they just do that again and replace Rufus/El Fuerte/Viper/Abel/Gouken/Seth with 6 other new cats and call it a day or go further?
You also need to add its own twist while keeping the SF2/4 "feel" intact, which 3 failed miserably at. That's not an easy thing to do.
This is also why you lead with DS4.
At this point, you have to keep the Super Turbo cast. They're all too iconic to drop. I don't think people would throw a fit over dropping Vega or whatever, but still.
I also think this is where the DLC era shines. Updates like Ultra should be the norm, updates like Super should be dead. Affordable DLC to rebalance and add to your disc.
Yup, that's pretty succinctly the first problem.
And it is pretty hard. Even on my armchair I cannot propose a solution aside from speeding it up a bit, lowering hitstop a teensie bit and maybe taking a second look at hitcircles (which didn't feel like SF2 when they first tried it). But those aren't real solutions.
Karsticles
Member
Me not playing them has more to do with coming in too late to get into Guilty Gear (I don't like to join games late) and BlazBlue being very boring.
Yeb did back in vanilla, and Capcom nerfed him hard for it. It wasn't until v2012 that he became truly viable again.
Professor Beef
Banned
Receipts, please. I asked for the stream link, but ended up doing something else.
Me being ass at them has nothing to do with it, otherwise I would be bashing 3rd Strike!
TxSF is coming. They're not going to cannibalize it. (And boy, did Tekken get the better end of that deal, huh?)
Akuma is also too loved by Capcom and fans to not be in as well. C.Viper out of the SF4 characters is probably a lock as well. I'd imagine everyone else is a toss up depending on whether they recycle assets or not for SF5.
I don't doubt he tried. He's probably not just as good at fighting Infiltration as Infiltration is at fighting him. Also Akuma making Ryu work much harder in this version.
After Ryu, Akuma is probably THE most liky returning character. Even moreso than Ken, who is also a mortal lock
I disliked SF4's artstyle at first too but I love it in motion. I do agree if they go for more of MvC3 or GG Xrd's style I'd be more satisfied. I'd also really like if they tried to go for the SF4 CG style with actual ink or watercolor effects for next gen.
Daigo is the Jay-Z of the FGC
That's a legit concern and it can't be helped
I'm glad they're location testing it. But yeah, I would put money on a 2015 edition coming out to smooth things over.
I really wouldn't mind them being too shit. Means less matchups to seriously consider!
yeah, I was a little disappointed about new characters. I wanted a patch this year that fine tuned the game. It might be another goose chase for balance ala Arcade Edition.
George Claw M.D.
Member
It's like Justin pulled a 180. "Villain" player from East Coast. Known to be a tier whore. Popular to root against. Now he lives on the West Coast. People bemoaning that he doesn't play top tier teams. Now a crowd favorite.
chriskun
Member
yes, i was just hoping for a balance update. I bet rolento is gonna be ridiculous.
Professor Beef
Banned
I can only see Rolento being extremely good because of his range/mobility, or extremely bad because they nerf said range/mobility.
That always happens. In any case, I'd be happy to ease the Akuma/Cammy monotony
chriskun
Member
don't you remember they made AE unbalanced on purpose ; )
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
All balance changes approved by Combofiend
Yup. I think the other 3 will be shit.
toddhunter
Member
Haggar, Hugo and Poison you would expect to be pretty straight forward and nobody will ever play Elena beyond about 5 minutes. Because of that, Rolento is my only concern. Could easily see him being complete bullshit with some sort of vortex and safe moves.
I predict they'll try to keep him balanced with low health...and that will fail miserably.
pillowtalk
Member
Marvel finals was so good, and I don't even play that game.
I'm kind of excited about USF4. I just sort of want them to shuffle the balance for all the characters so it feels like a brand new game again.
I'm kind of excited about USF4. I just sort of want them to shuffle the balance for all the characters so it feels like a brand new game again.
If USF4 has whatever the 4 player local mode from SFxTK is called ported over, I will buy the game in an instant. Box art making it SO tempting already.
But bed time for me. Wow, what a weekend. If Triforce does a stream, someone please snatch the archives for me before they are deleted, thanks!
But bed time for me. Wow, what a weekend. If Triforce does a stream, someone please snatch the archives for me before they are deleted, thanks!
I like how Capcom referred to it in the interview as "Hong Kong Edition."
Kinda surprised how much influence Combo has. He really is the new Seth (and probably the boss of SFV).
Might as well re-post this here. From the EVO thread:
You know, I'm surprised the big online stores like Steam don't have massive sales for the games at EVO during and right after EVO. People always seem to get the itch to play again watching. Big sales would push many right over the edge.
You know, I'm surprised the big online stores like Steam don't have massive sales for the games at EVO during and right after EVO. People always seem to get the itch to play again watching. Big sales would push many right over the edge.
Of course, but I think Capcom would still gift us with one more free balance patch if things get too Marvel in USF4.
Shouta
Member
Good Poison is scarier than good Rolento in SFxT. She's much more of a AE-slanted character as well. Elena should be good to great as well. Her being in 3S was a really bad match because she's much more of a footsies char than most and Parry makes it harder to play that type of game.
APZonerunner
Member
The Honda changes made me laugh - even the three small ones we've heard - as they sound built for Mike Ross. Combo looking after our lord and saviour!
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Shouta knows what's up. I can tell from the people I play against that she is annoying as hell to fight. Her hp fireball is going to be nightmare fuel in SF4
Karsticles
Member
Import in that TvC model.
toddhunter
Member
Surely not pre-patch though?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
No one cares about pre-patch sfxtk at this point. That's like talking about ssf4ae yun