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Final Fantasy Haeresis XIII
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PolyGone said:
That game didn't sell well enough by their standards to make a sequel, despite the fact that it was fucking amazing and had one of the best "GIVE ME A DAMN SEQUEL" endings I've ever seen. I really don't understand why it bombed - it was adored by critics and most people that bought it loved it... but so few people bought it for whatever reason.
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The graphics and story design was this wonderful blend of Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy, like the best of both worlds, and the combat / equipment system was so damn robust and complex.
the year 20XX
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duckroll said:
Don't worry. The last 5 games will be remakes or portable ports of the first 5.
Tyrone Slothrop
Banned
i guess it could be argued that FFXII is a spiritual sequel to Vagrant Story ... as Vagrant Story is a spiritual sequel ot FF Tactics
To be honest I'd be surprised if this "Haeresis" is even in a real game yet. Square has locked up names for various Chrono, FF, Mana, etc. with nothing ever coming of it. Its nothing new, with this new branching IP shit they'll probably do it a whole lot more.
And yeah, they're milking the shit out of franchises, but its in a different sort of way, you got to give them that. Each iteration is basically its own series, and every 3-5 years they'll bring out a new iteration. Roughly two per generation, and they develop tons of content. They supposedly want to be on par with EA and Konami in sales, you need lots of content for that.
I don't think it spells the end for Chrono, Vagrant Story, Ogre Battle, etc. either. Square Enix's E3 announcements show us a huge FF presence, FF7 in the short term and FF13 in the long term, after that though they're only working with Mana, which hasn't exactly been a dynamite seller. I don't think it'll be long before they'll be looking to add more IPs to heavy circulation. Then all our favorite old series can get milked.
Just imagine what they'll do with Chrono's polymorphism. Its about different times and worlds as it is!
Damn, I didn't even think about Enix' franchises. DQ polymorphism anyone?
And yeah, they're milking the shit out of franchises, but its in a different sort of way, you got to give them that. Each iteration is basically its own series, and every 3-5 years they'll bring out a new iteration. Roughly two per generation, and they develop tons of content. They supposedly want to be on par with EA and Konami in sales, you need lots of content for that.
I don't think it spells the end for Chrono, Vagrant Story, Ogre Battle, etc. either. Square Enix's E3 announcements show us a huge FF presence, FF7 in the short term and FF13 in the long term, after that though they're only working with Mana, which hasn't exactly been a dynamite seller. I don't think it'll be long before they'll be looking to add more IPs to heavy circulation. Then all our favorite old series can get milked.
Just imagine what they'll do with Chrono's polymorphism. Its about different times and worlds as it is!
Damn, I didn't even think about Enix' franchises. DQ polymorphism anyone?
Fourth Storm
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God, I'm so sick of Square trying to be hip with these ridiculous (and from the similarity to Yuna) and unoriginal characters, thousand hit combos, jumping and gunning, etc. What happened when Square created their own style instead of taking their cues from j-pop? And who the hell decided Dragon Quest was going to get the glorious old-school makeover, while Final Fantasy is whored out left and right. I blame Nomura!
Seriously, I don't mean to sound whiney, but is there anyone else here, like myself, who just loved the Final Fantasy games even through 10, but are starting to wonder if, without the Guch, Amano, and Uematsu the loyalty is even worth it anymore?
Btw, I know that was one sentence. Deal with it.
Seriously, I don't mean to sound whiney, but is there anyone else here, like myself, who just loved the Final Fantasy games even through 10, but are starting to wonder if, without the Guch, Amano, and Uematsu the loyalty is even worth it anymore?
Btw, I know that was one sentence. Deal with it.
duckroll said:Huh? Matsuno, Minagawa and Yoshida are not freelancers. They're Square Enix full time employees. Only Sakimoto the composer is a freelancer.
even then, wasn't Sakimoto an official fulltime employee when Square made FFT? he later left to go freelance after that.
they do it because it sells. sad fact of life.
Drek said:
Yeah, don't speak too soon. When they announce 7 new Chrono titles and say "but this is what you wanted", I'm sure everyone will just complain again.
Just take what comes and leave what you don't like. It's pretty easy. Makes you a lot happier overall, too.
PS. Mana is not the only franchise they're "working with" outside of FFXIII and FFVII. Code Age Commanders will get a push soon and Full Metal Alchemist has some life left in it. Not to mention Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts and Star Ocean.
Sweedishrodeo
the smegma spreader
methinks this will be a wii title.
LOL
Fourth Storm
Member
I know it sells, but I thought Final Fantasy was at the level in japan to as where they don't have to copy the worst shit from pop culture. Seriously, it should sell well enough on name alone by this point. Sorry, that trailer just left me disgusted.
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen
Banned
er if one of those pillars is supposed to be KH, they're obviously NOT focusing on it at the moment since they chose to do FFv13 instead of KH3.
I should point out that FF13 will really have nothing to do with you not getting a new Chrono (because that team is busy with FFXI and MMOs), Parasite Eve (because those teams broke up a long time ago and nobody at SE gives a shit about the series anymore), or Vagrant Story (because Matsuno contracted ebola while working on FF12). Other series like SaGa, Front Mission and Seiken/Mana that haven't had those problems have been continuing as usual.
Slurpy2k20
Member
Maybe Final Fantasy 13 really means that the title will have 13 spin-off titles?
tebiro boy
Member
tennin, I have questions for you:
1. What are the Code Age guys doing now?
2. Do you really think it's likely Naora is just doing that mobile game? Do you think he might be art directing Nomura's vsXIII as well? (and if so, why haven't they listed him in the credits yet?) or
3. Do you think he'll be working on another original IP with the Code Age team (presuming they still exist as a unit - unlikely I guess)?
Sorry, I'm really obsessing over this at the moment, but I want some awesome new settings to explore!
1. What are the Code Age guys doing now?
2. Do you really think it's likely Naora is just doing that mobile game? Do you think he might be art directing Nomura's vsXIII as well? (and if so, why haven't they listed him in the credits yet?) or
3. Do you think he'll be working on another original IP with the Code Age team (presuming they still exist as a unit - unlikely I guess)?
Sorry, I'm really obsessing over this at the moment, but I want some awesome new settings to explore!
DarknessTear
Banned
No more Code Age please. No more Code Age team too. Fire them.
tebiro boy
Member
Bleh, I liked it.
I don't know, if they're going to dilute and exploit something, I'd rather them dilute and exploit something I already don't know much about (and thus have yet to form some sort of emotional attachment to), and to tell me up front that they intend going to do so.
It still seems a bit arrogant to announce sequels to something before the first one even hits, however, given there have been some non-sequel worthy Final Fantasy games released thus far.
It still seems a bit arrogant to announce sequels to something before the first one even hits, however, given there have been some non-sequel worthy Final Fantasy games released thus far.
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen
Banned
Code Age Commanders team = FFCC team, so they're probably working on FFCC for Wii (directed by Itahana) and DS.
Yeah, it's not like they listed the entire staff on those credit pages so Naora might be involved with one of the other Fabula games, or with a new SaGa, Front Mission, etc. I don't know that SE will let him do another Code Age-like project any time soon though, given the low sales of CAC.
Yeah, it's not like they listed the entire staff on those credit pages so Naora might be involved with one of the other Fabula games, or with a new SaGa, Front Mission, etc. I don't know that SE will let him do another Code Age-like project any time soon though, given the low sales of CAC.
tebiro boy
Member
Cheers. I just checked out KH's credits, and it seems they had an art director of their own - Takayuki Odachi. So I guess he'll be going on to do vsXIII as well. Although, Naora did Advent Children, and that team is also involved in vsXIII, so maybe...
Then there's the question of what the XII team will be doing now (well, what's left of them, anyway). OB revival?
I just checked out KH's credits, and it seems they had an art director of their own - Takayuki Odachi. So I guess he'll be going on to do vsXIII as well. Although, Naora did Advent Children, and that team is also involved in vsXIII, so maybe...Then there's the question of what the XII team will be doing now (well, what's left of them, anyway). OB revival?
sorry for the up the Final Fantasy Haeresis XIII logo, it's probably the new FF game.
http://www.jeux-france.com/news19697_ff-haeresis-xiii-le-logo.html
the Final Fantasy Haeresis XIII logo, it's probably the new FF game.
http://www.jeux-france.com/news19697_ff-haeresis-xiii-le-logo.html
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
What's the article say?
I don't doubt it, but its the exact some font and logo as the other 3 FF13 games, anyone could make that
I don't doubt it, but its the exact some font and logo as the other 3 FF13 games, anyone could make that
Pureauthor
Member
SeatBelts said:
It already has a cell-phone game anyways.
DarknessTear
Banned
SeatBelts said:
No?
Pureauthor
Member
SeatBelts said:
SE is a Japan-centric company, dude.
Diablohead
Member
3 Variants of FFXIII is better then 13,14 and 15 imo.
Is it confirmed that the Japanese part under the logo actually says the same thing as the logo? For the record, the 'Final Fantasy Haeresis XIII' part of the logo is available to anyone that uses TESS: http://www.uspto.gov/main/trademarks.htm, and it just seems like a simple photoshop job to add the Japanese.
Iunno, I'm just too into conspiracy theories I guess ^^;
Iunno, I'm just too into conspiracy theories I guess ^^;
Pureauthor
Member
icecream said:
And the DS. Don't forget Square's primary moneymaker right now.
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