Eteric Rice
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Tabris said:
Start this thread into another graphics debate. FFIV remake isn't on any of the other consoles, that's life.
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Start this thread into another graphics debate. FFIV remake isn't on any of the other consoles, that's life.
pancakesandsex
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AniHawk said:
there is NO way you beat it in 10 hours on your 1st play, even a grind free, straight path playthrough.
scarlet, whats your best time on FF4?
Eteric Rice
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Tabris said:
Something that isn't a graphics debate.
Like FFIV, chances of the other FF games coming to DS, etc.
Plenty of things.
Red Scarlet
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I don't know if it's my absolute best, but this was what I got last summer in front of the last boss on the original:
SDA's best time for the US SNES release is 3:56, and ultimagarden has no time listed for any version.
As to Tabris's rant/question, I'll raise my hand. Not everyone's a graphics whore, and some remakes shine more in the new stuff implemented dept over graphical changes dept. They may have both, but the new stuff can be a huge, if not larger factor for playing a remake with people.
SDA's best time for the US SNES release is 3:56, and ultimagarden has no time listed for any version.
As to Tabris's rant/question, I'll raise my hand. Not everyone's a graphics whore, and some remakes shine more in the new stuff implemented dept over graphical changes dept. They may have both, but the new stuff can be a huge, if not larger factor for playing a remake with people.
Eteric Rice said:
I love FFIV. I think the DS will get FFV and FFVI remaked over the next 3 years. I am for a remake of FFV and VERY against a remake of FFVI because of *graphic discussion* and fond memories.
Oh, and I want to change my quote, I think Lufia 2 may be the best thing ever on the SNES but very debateable with FFVI.
Oh, and SD sucks.
pancakesandsex
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Red Scarlet said:I don't know if it's my absolute best, but this was what I got last summer in front of the last boss on the original:
SDA's best time for the US SNES release is 3:56, and ultimagarden has no time listed for any version.
As to Tabris's rant/question, I'll raise my hand. Not everyone's a graphics whore, and some remakes shine more in the new stuff implemented dept over graphical changes dept. They may have both, but the new stuff can be a huge, if not larger factor for playing a remake with people.
the concept of that being approached on a 1st playthrough is absurd
CurseoftheGods
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pancakesandsex said:
Why are you being so stubborn? :lol I don't think he has any reason to lie.
"At that time" are the key words. These games are almost ancient. If you've never played them before and lack the fond memories of an awesome Christmas present and nights in front of an almost mute TV just so your parents wouldn't hear, then you're most probably not going to enjoy them very much.tnw said:
I can't stand FF1, never tried II, III or IV and haven't spend much time with V either. Remakes included. It's just - ugh! These games don't do anything for me. After a very short time (about half an hour for the original FF1 on an emulator) I just lose interest.
If the IV remake gets the same treatment as FFIII, which I was hyped for at first, then color me wary but secretly hoping for more than just a graphical update.
I haven't played FFIVa in a long time as the last time I played FFIV was on the PSOne (I do own the GBA one but haven't had a chance to play it and I'll now trade it in since it's now coming out on DS which I'll buy even though I think SD sucks), so I'm not sure if it's been changed, but Zemus/Zeromus is an absolute bitch without leveling up a little bit.
He can one shot your party until you hit a certain level, so I think just the 1hour you gotta spend leveling if you had rushed through the game to beat Zeromus would throw him off that 10hrs.
He can one shot your party until you hit a certain level, so I think just the 1hour you gotta spend leveling if you had rushed through the game to beat Zeromus would throw him off that 10hrs.
I don't know if it's normal, but I needed to do some serious grinding in the final area of the game too. I was able to waltz through pretty much the entire game, until the final dungeon came along and the continuous appearances of Behemoths started to really rape my party. Final area is definitely not that easy iirc
Red Scarlet
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Behemoths mainly counter attack, so if you don't go berserk on them you can get through without being damaged at all (via the Blink spell and Edge's mirage thing). Oh, and don't use magic.
What's weird is I find the last dungeon harder on Easytype, due to the changed attack schemes of enemies (mainly Red Dragons), but that probably has to do with being much more accustomed to what they normally do.
I still probably find 4 the most enjoyable one to play still today. The battle system is simple, the 'new' ATB I think is best implemented (or I like it best) in this one due to (most) spells not being instant, each character brings something unique to the table, the party of 1-5, the whole pseudo remake of 1's themes being present throughout, and the last place is probably my favorite with the jump in difficulty and all the zany bosses you can fight in there. Another thing unique in 4 is the magic system, where *most* spells are learned from levels instead of purchasing in a shop. It's a rather unique game in the series imo, and that makes it still stand out today.
It's a shame you missed out on some really good entries, but they obviously aren't for everyone, especially those that missed them for the last 17-20 years.
What's weird is I find the last dungeon harder on Easytype, due to the changed attack schemes of enemies (mainly Red Dragons), but that probably has to do with being much more accustomed to what they normally do.
Rufus said:
I still probably find 4 the most enjoyable one to play still today. The battle system is simple, the 'new' ATB I think is best implemented (or I like it best) in this one due to (most) spells not being instant, each character brings something unique to the table, the party of 1-5, the whole pseudo remake of 1's themes being present throughout, and the last place is probably my favorite with the jump in difficulty and all the zany bosses you can fight in there. Another thing unique in 4 is the magic system, where *most* spells are learned from levels instead of purchasing in a shop. It's a rather unique game in the series imo, and that makes it still stand out today.
It's a shame you missed out on some really good entries, but they obviously aren't for everyone, especially those that missed them for the last 17-20 years.
Jonnyram said:Hey guys... you'd think with this being a thread about a remake of FFIV, that there might be more use of the spoiler tag, rather than just flashing boss names everywhere. Just saying. I've not played the game yet
Same here, too much hate & spoils in this thread...
Red Scarlet
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AniHawk said:
Inside the giant isn't the final dungeon. You'd have to practically run from everything in the last dungeon while going the exact way through and beat the last boss fast to squeeze under 10:00 (if your pic shows 9:15).
DeathbyVolcano
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You haven't played the game ONCE, Jonny?
Red Scarlet
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Tabris said:
I barely survived (or didn't a number of times) with the HP in my cap. :lol
But he *is* showing the GBA version, where due to the ATB messup you can actually beat the last boss without him ever performing an action (I did it but was around lv60).
Either way, the location shown in his picture is not the last dungeon. Keep going, anihawk!
Eteric Rice
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Y2Kevbug11 said:
Darth Vader is Luke's father.
Red Scarlet
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Her HP is super low and I didn't get any summons for her and I'd get more XP with her dead the whole time. Plus she isn't very helpful against the last boss anyway due to counters. I don't know what the speedrun does, I do think that it is a better time than the run I verified about a year ago (5hr something?). I have some ideas as to what the player did, but it doesn't sound very appealing to attempt or watch in my head.
I didn't do a speed run, it was more of a minimal play when I decide I want to skip most extra stuff. I really don't play/enjoy playing in the same way as the usual speed run does (like in my FF1,FF12, DQ4, DQ8 videos).
I didn't do a speed run, it was more of a minimal play when I decide I want to skip most extra stuff. I really don't play/enjoy playing in the same way as the usual speed run does (like in my FF1,FF12, DQ4, DQ8 videos).
JoshuaJSlone
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Wrong. I've got most of the soundtrack in PSF2 format. It's quite real-time.Second said:
Correct. Sounding good does not imply it's necessarily prerecorded or a real orchestra.Y2Kevbug11 said:
Red Scarlet
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And also the only reason the NA DQ8 had an orchestrated soundtrack was because Sugiyama always does one after the Japanese release, so it was already there to use.
Rufus said:
I'm aware of the nostalgia. The same thing will happen to you.
You can at least appreciate the development of the series. Final Fantasy 1 still looks great. I do admit to playing through them with the turbo function. It helps a lot.
I never thought I would have to defend this kind of stuff at a gaming forum.
Red Scarlet
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Let's play FF4 later. We'll show them! I'll play easytype.
Kinda off topic but I just listened to Let My Love Open the Door and daaaannng, the beginning sounds just like the Final Fantasy Theme! Did the composer of the song ever say that's where he got it from?
I wanna play too~
Honestly I am getting tired of these remakes but man I would be lying if I said I wasn't impressed by those screen shots of FFIV. I love this game, I just hope like FFIII DS the difficulty isn't changed/made a bit more difficult. If not some more content than the GBA stuff (and change the stupid you have to kill the final boss with every character to open access for them in the Lunar Ruins >< ).
Honestly I am getting tired of these remakes but man I would be lying if I said I wasn't impressed by those screen shots of FFIV. I love this game, I just hope like FFIII DS the difficulty isn't changed/made a bit more difficult. If not some more content than the GBA stuff (and change the stupid you have to kill the final boss with every character to open access for them in the Lunar Ruins >< ).
JoshuaJSlone
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I suppose, though that's not usually the way I think it's meant by the "pro-orchestral" crowd that tends to pop up.silenttwn said:
pancakesandsex
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AniHawk said:
And this is your 1st run through the game ever? lemme check my p1 version time....
yeah i had 40 hours on it, and i thought the last boss was fairly difficult.....
this was a fairly recent playthrough.
were there changes made to the gba version for difficulty? text skip?
Red Scarlet
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He's not in the last place going by the location shown in that picture.
tnw, I was serious! Maybe later today or over the weekend in one go.
tnw, I was serious! Maybe later today or over the weekend in one go.
Honestly I must agree with some in this thread.
Why re-make such an awesome game?
Make us a new FF already instead of all these rehashes. Sure FFIII was cool and ok, but remaking one of the greatest FF games of all time? I just hope they don't remake VI then I'll end up having to shoot myself.
Plus I'm not going to have money to buy all these games for the DS now :'(
Why re-make such an awesome game?
Make us a new FF already instead of all these rehashes. Sure FFIII was cool and ok, but remaking one of the greatest FF games of all time? I just hope they don't remake VI then I'll end up having to shoot myself.
Plus I'm not going to have money to buy all these games for the DS now :'(
pancakesandsex
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Red Scarlet said:
how far is that though?
I've heard similar praise about IV elsewhere. It's why I'm not completely uninterested in the game. I want to see for myself what it is all about and the remake seems like a good chance.Red Scarlet said:
I'm not appalled by classics just because they're old, but the lot of 'em just don't do it for me anymore.
Oh, it did. It did. In fact, it may be the biggest reason why I replied to your post. XDtnw said:
Sure. Doesn't say much about the games individually though.tnw said:
It's not like we're all gaming connoisseurs with cloned opinions...tnw said:I never thought I would have to defend this kind of stuff at a gaming forum.
Some opinions are well established, others aren't. Don't take it too seriously.
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super funk
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Eteric Rice said:
Spiderman becomes evil.
I havent seen the movie yet, but thats what my dad says and he saw the billboard.
Red Scarlet
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tnw said:
Oh, I meant just both playing it. The game is fun 2-player though!
pancakesandsex said:
Should be 2nd to last place, inside the Giant of Bab-il, where you fight the elemental guys again then the CPU, then can go to the last place.
^-don't read that jonny/curse.
JayDubya said:
Original on a tv with a SNES controller ftw. You and tnw should try my flying pig method, it's funny (see cap earlier)!