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Final Fantasy Versus XIII on PS3 and PS4 (Gameblog rumor)
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H_Prestige
Banned
This site apparently is not reliable.
I believe the VGleaks rumor since it makes perfect sense and would explain the deathly silence regarding the game since 2011. But keeping the name Versus XIII and making it cross-gen makes no damn sense.
I believe the VGleaks rumor since it makes perfect sense and would explain the deathly silence regarding the game since 2011. But keeping the name Versus XIII and making it cross-gen makes no damn sense.
itzknickknac
Member
Think it'll be cross-buy? (if true of course)
Like Beyond two souls right? I bet GT 6 will follows the same fate.
PshycoNinja
Member
All of those changes were done in preproduction. Nothing has changed since it went into full production in mid/late 2011.
H_Prestige
Banned
Even what they showed in 2011 was basically a prototype. I think the only other change talked about was replacing some in game cutscenes with FMV.
I will stick to the vgleaks rumor. Sound more plausible.
I think none of those will be cross gen.
I think none of those will be cross gen.
SniperHunter
Banned
the rumor was originally posted by neogaf user verendus, then it was elaborated by banned user Zeal, Kagari the admin has been dropping hints here and there...
edit:
Verendus was wrong about Guerrilla Games - He said they would reveal a new IP at the PS4 press conference, said it wouldn't be Killzone.
Zeal was just bull shitting and probably got permabanned
Kagari was wrong about Final Fantasy XIII staying PS3 exclusive.
So all three sources are dubious at best
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Best of both worlds here. SE gets that massive userbase and we get a next gen version. Only party not winning here would be Sony as I am sure they would rather have a PS4 exclusive FF to sell systems but being exclusive to PS systems is the next best thing for them
Unless I'm not aware, Kagari hasn't said anything definitive and said she doesn't know anything herself.
Zeal comes off as bullshit.
Verendus: Status pending. But I went through his post history and he knew nothing one week, then dropped his Versus "bomb" the next at the same time Orbis specs came out. So I'm not that inclined to believe him.
I just wish E3 would hurry up so we can put this crap to rest.
PshycoNinja
Member
This rumor is BS. Final Fantasy Versus XIII (XV) will not be a cross generational title.
TheJollyCorner
Member
And how can you say this with full confidence without knowing what's happening inside SE right now about?
As implausible as it sounds I'm still willing to have a confirmation on its validity because it certainly isn't something that's impossible.
H_Prestige
Banned
There was also the Roen "mistake".
SniperHunter
Banned
This is what Verendus posted about Guerrilla Games and Versus13
He was totally wrong about GG OR they might showing the new IP at E3?! Highly unlikely since they are working on a PS4 launch game
we gotta wait and see what happens here
PshycoNinja
Member
Logic. Also rumblings from others.
I'm not saying I disagree with you, I think it might be PS4 only, but what makes you so sure? Most people have no idea what's going on anymore, yet your so sure?
Many of us assumed Verendus and Zeal were full of lies when they were posting at the time. If you didn't know then... I don't know what to tell you.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Logic certainly doesn't dictate it would be PS4 exclusive unless Sony is involved financially. Why would SE put a game that is such a huge investment on a platform with such a tiny userbase when they have 70+ million PS3 owners that were already promised this game?
BibiMaghoo
Member
Pretty sure I read someone post (maybe Kagari) that it would be renamed FFXV, and would be 'kind of' exclusive.
This matches up with 'kind of' exclusive. I believe.
This matches up with 'kind of' exclusive. I believe.
TheJollyCorner
Member
To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Guerilla's new IP (which isn't exactly a secret) had a video ready to go, but Sony decided on showing Killzone at the last minute for brand recognition... and maybe because, unlike the new IP, Killzone was actually playable for demonstration purposes?
It's also been heavily hinted that S-E was supposed to have more to show, but that plan changed near crunch time, too (as elder Hashimoto's appearance was kind of bizarre and anti-climactic).
Ah well. E3 will be here soon.
H_Prestige
Banned
70 million people are not going to buy the game.
And FFXV isn't a new IP. It could even sell better as a ps4 exclusive instead of ps3. How did FFX sell way more than FFXII? And FFVII and VIII sold way more than IX.
SniperHunter
Banned
Because they invested millions of dollars into the Luminous engine. Let's face it, it won't run on Wii U (I know it can scale down but it won't be worth it), Xbox is a failure in Japan and so is PC gaming. Now unless Square wants to go 3DS exclusive for the entirety of next gen, it is in their best interest to promote PS4 in Japan, it's the only system that will be able to run Luminous and let Square capture the lucrative JRPG market in Japan.
Or they could simply say fuck it and focus on 3DS....
I know nothing but for me there are only two distinct possibilities, and they are:
1) Its a PS3 game and will launch soon after its announced at E3.
2) Its a PS4 game and will launch like 6~7 months after the console is launched for it to at least have a considerable userbase (this is probably the most believable one considering Hashimoto comments on the PS4 reveal conference).
The matter of it being exclusive or not really depends on the rumor of Sony helping it or not. And that could really go both ways, there is no way to tell. Its pretty reasonable to believe its true though, especially if its a PS4 game.
I just dont know how they would handle a cross gen game at all. How would they advertise it? Buy the inferior version for less? Buy the PS4 one and get the PS3 version for free? Doesnt seem like something they would do.
Its a really weird situation, and I feel even they are (were?) confused of what decision to make. Cant wait for E3 so we have this behind us.
1) Its a PS3 game and will launch soon after its announced at E3.
2) Its a PS4 game and will launch like 6~7 months after the console is launched for it to at least have a considerable userbase (this is probably the most believable one considering Hashimoto comments on the PS4 reveal conference).
The matter of it being exclusive or not really depends on the rumor of Sony helping it or not. And that could really go both ways, there is no way to tell. Its pretty reasonable to believe its true though, especially if its a PS4 game.
I just dont know how they would handle a cross gen game at all. How would they advertise it? Buy the inferior version for less? Buy the PS4 one and get the PS3 version for free? Doesnt seem like something they would do.
Its a really weird situation, and I feel even they are (were?) confused of what decision to make. Cant wait for E3 so we have this behind us.
PshycoNinja
Member
I am sure you could argue the same about VII and X when they were announced and released early in PS1 and PS2 eras.
The thing is when Versus does release it won't be in the launch window. It'll be months after that. PS4 will have a sizable userbase by that point. It's not this huge risk many are trying to make it out to be.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Obviously 70 million aren't, but how close to launch are we talking? Because releasing on a platform with an install base of 3 million is giving you a 3 million unit ceiling. Sure, people are going to buy into it over time, but then you're talking about sales that are probably going to come after price drops.
I'm also part of the group that doesn't expect the PS4 or any next-gen console to set the world on fire, which probably also paints my perspective.
Canis lupus
Member
The first megaton of the year if true...
SniperHunter
Banned
To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Guerilla's new IP (which isn't exactly a secret) had a video ready to go, but Sony decided on showing Killzone at the last minute for brand recognition... and maybe because, unlike the new IP, Killzone was actually playable for demonstration purposes?
It's also been heavily hinted that S-E was supposed to have more to show, but that plan changed near crunch time, too (as elder Hashimoto's appearance was kind of bizarre and anti-climactic).
Ah well. E3 will be here soon.
I understand what you are saying, that press conference was interesting. Sony showed two old IP's (Infamous and Killzone) both of which have had ho-hum sales and two new ip's (Knack and DriveClub), I guess they want KZ and infamous to become bigger, that's why they showed them first.
Why not? With PS4 lacking PS3 disc based BC why wouldn't they?
They don't necessarily need Versus for that though. If Versus isn't the game they're revealing at E3, it just means they have another main FF game in the works and that one would've likely being developed alongside Luminous. So they can still build up a PS4 fanbase without hinging on Versus.
Tbh though, not really speaking for SE, but I'm sure the JRPG market will follow the PS4 regardless. FF XIII didn't come out till 2010 (Dec 2009 in Japan) and I'd say there's a pretty good JRPG market on the PS3 (just look at Tales of Xillia sales). I don't doubt things will be similar for PS4.
krypt0nian
Banned
*whew*
Now we can wait 5 more years for Kingdom Hearts III.
Now we can wait 5 more years for Kingdom Hearts III.
SniperHunter
Banned
They need a game, something exciting ASAP. Sony knows this too...if they wait too long to show exciting games for the PS4, the gamers will lose interest in the system and stick with handhelds. However if they show something mind blowing at E3 and have it playble at TGS, it will generate a lot of hype for the system in Japan. Key thing here is timing, you can't wait for fall 2014 to release a FF game for PS4. By that time it will be too late.
Square NEEDS PS4 to succeed in Japan, they have invested millions into luminous and I am guessing the game designers at Square are excited about the Luminous.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Agreed.
It's also good business these days, like it or not, to show a shooter... and Killzone is the big one for Sony right now. It will also be a launch game supposedly.
If the rumors/speculation is true and Guerilla's new IP is some kind of FP-medieval/fantasy game (can you imagine that with Guerilla's tech-wizards?), I could see that getting massive attention once Sony starts rolling out videos of PS4 games, but I think it would have been ballsy for them to show that at the PS Meeting over a more recognizable brand.
Like you just said- the PS Meeting had a good balance of familiar and new. With E3 they won't have to play it as conservatively, IMO.
Can't wait.
SniperHunter
Banned
yea timing is everything. They made an interesting move with Killzone, I hope the game continues to blow people away because it will face tough competition from Battlefield 4 and COD Next. I don't think going up against those two is a good idea though...
I think you're assuming too much. People won't lost interest in the PS4 and starting gaming on handhelds. That's ridiculous because there's going to be a VAST difference between a PS4 and a handheld. Handheld games won't be a substitute for big next-gen console games. Plus, most people don't have an interest in new systems right away. They can do incredibly well without exploding out of the gate; many systems are like this.
I don't know why you think Fall 2014 is too late for a PS4 FF. Just for reference, the PS1 came out Dec 1994 in Japan. FF VII released January 1997. 2 years later. PS2 released March 2000 in Japan. FF X released July 2001. Over a year later. Both games sold incredibly well, both systems sold incredibly well.
Having a FF early in the PS4's life would definitely be beneficial but let's not get ridiculous now and assume a game coming Fall 2014 for example would be "too late."
SniperHunter
Banned
I was talking about Japan, a handheld nation. Sony needs to be careful with planning release dates and drumming up support for the system in Japan. Look at what happens to system with sparse game releases like the Vita, they start to die off.
Now let's get real for a second, Luminous is already running on PS4, Square has promised to show a Final Fantasy game for PS4 at E3.
Is it going to be:
Final Fantasy XIV - A MMORPG Square is about to relaunch
Final Fantasy 13-3 - A HD port running on PS4
Final Fantasy XV - Versus13, that has been hiding for years....with several dropping hints about it.
I doubt Square Enix has enough resources to be working on another FF besides the three games I listed above....
It would be idiotic to show a FF game for PS4 at this e3 and having it launch in late 2014. I am sorry, but whatever they are planning to show, they will show it with a release date. Look at what happend with Nova Crystallis, they showed stuff too early and it was a complete disaster....
I know you were talking about Japan, but even in Japan handhelds won't be a substitute for many people. They're too different. I don't think we have to worry about a Vita situation with the PS4; I expect it to be very successful. It's going to be the most viable next-gen console for JP developers.
I don't know if SE has enough resources for a main FF game, but FF XIV and LR will be released this year so they'll be freed up. I really really doubt they'll give an actual release date if the E3 FF is not Versus though. They've changed FF XIII's date a million times and I don't expect them to come up with a conclusive date for a next-gen FF. Holy shit, FF XIV doesn't even have a release window on the PS3 right now.
H_Prestige
Banned
It would be one hell of a troll if the new FF at e3 was FFXIV.
Won't be.
SniperHunter
Banned
Final Fantasy 14, first announced on PS3 but now coming to PS4, oh YEAAA
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I'd love it if FFXIV was on the PS4 day one, would pretty much be the only way I'd even try it to be honest.
SniperHunter
Banned
It can't be successful without games and nothing sells a system like Japan like Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy...the FF game Square Enix is planning to show has to be Versus13. We know they have changed it's name to Final Fantasy XV, the XIII brand is in tatters so there is no point in calling it FF Versus13. It can't be anything else IMO. People at Square Enix were tied with FF14 for a long time, so it makes sense that Sony is co-developing the game.
R_thanatos
Member
Intresting rumour.
Gonna wait to see how the game play now before i get excited.
Gonna wait to see how the game play now before i get excited.
TheJollyCorner
Member
please look forward to it
out getting ribs
Member
Finally something to make me seriously consider the purchase of a ps4. Looking forward to finding out if there's any truth to these rumors.