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[Mr. RHC]

 

[JuanLatino]

I'll ask again since nobody responded to me. How is Square moving this game to internal development Nomura's fault?

Most people here are just using this thread as an excuse to reiterate their Versus XIII theories, sure he probably made some mistakes there, but what does this news have to do with anything?

because people need a scapegoat, someone to vent their anger at

i think all of us can agree that nomura has his share of fault on the situation given the past years - but this is just pure hyperbole again - not analyzing the current situation at Square ENix & the fact they announce their games to early

I mentioned in another thread, but the development of Kh3 wouldn't be that untypical for an RPG Game (given their experience and the engine problems) if it releases in 2018

the game got announced way to early like Square Enix always does & the Nomura gets all - really all of the shit

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Por que no los dos? Or whatever, Gooch wasnt wrong when he called him shit when he was drunk

Gooch never called him 'shit'. He's been very open about his respect for Kitase's creative talents (hell, he saddled him with directing FFV, VI, VII, & VIII). He's just (rightfully) critical regarding his 'producer' role. Creative people tend to be better at, you know, creating... not necessarily allowing the inmates to run the asylum. Worked with FFX because he was more hands on, didn't work with XIII, and he was purged from vsXIII when production shifted to Tabata.

Calling Kitase 'shit', as a blunt, general statement, is laughably ignorant and childish. This isn't Twitter. You can use more words.

 

[Eylos]

Lol this one is very good

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Most people are blaming Nomura because when you compare his projects to other directors, the difference is obvious. It is like his projects are somehow doomed and unless they are remasters, news about them is scarce and interviews that he conducts about them are monotonous to the point that one GAFFER even confused a sarcastic interview by Koozek and assumed it was really by Nomura.

Nomura needs to put work where his mouth his and deliver on what he promises instead of babbling the same repetitive shit in his interviews without any shred of new information. Same shit, different angle is basically the gist of his majority of FFVII: Remake interviews, same for KH3.

If he has nothing concrete to say, then he should just shut up. I know the press and fans want answers but if he can't give them, why bother? Instead he should work on showing progress from the game in a way that people don't easily doubt when a news like this hits one of his projects. There is a reason why people didn't have a hard time believing that this could spell a troubled production for VII: Remake.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

April 2083 - Visiting the ancient ruins of New York. Progress is coming along well on Remake, still working on brushing up that scene from the first trailer. Please be excited!

 

[anaron]

So Nomura is never pleased and can't keep his attention on a single thing.

Explains Adveng Children at least.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Leaked footage of nomura working

 

[JuanLatino]

If he has nothing concrete to say, then he should just shut up. I know the press and fans want answers but if he can't give them, why bother? Instead he should work on showing progress from the game in a way that people don't easily doubt when a news like this hits one of his projects. There is a reason why people didn't have a hard time believing that this could spell a troubled production for VII: Remake.

actually he wanted to show new material to FF7 but wasn't allowed to.
There is a strict marketing plan at Square Enix -

 

[DarkLordMalik]

actually he wanted to show new material to FF7 but wasn't allowed to.
There is a strict marketing plan at Square Enix -

You are just proving my point. Saying that he has material to show but can't show them is epic blue balls teasing and basically troll mode from Nomura. He should stop doing this shit and instead just roll on with the marketing plan of SE.

He tends to do this shit a lot. "I can show a lot of cool shit but I won't because I am not allowed.

How does this even help the fans?

 

[SpaceWolf]

The sad thing is, we're all probably going to have to wait about five years for the first episode to come out (which is most likely going to purely revolve around Midgar) before waiting another few years for the next episode.

It's going to be a total George RR Martin situation, I can feel it in my bones.

 

[Masagiwa]

April 2083 - Visiting the ancient ruins of New York. Progress is coming along well on Remake, still working on brushing up that scene from the first trailer. Please be excited!

Died when I saw this hahaha

 

[ZeoVGM]

I mean...why even do it at all if it's going to be like that.
IMO this was the worst part about FFX.

Because while the world map is great, that isn't why people love FFVII. People love VII because of the setting, the story, the characters.

I'd gladly give up the world map if there was some sort of development issue based around it.

 

[Mister Wolf]

You are just proving my point. Saying that he has material to show but can't show them is epic blue balls teasing and basically troll mode from Nomura. He should stop doing this shit and instead just roll on with the marketing plan of SE.

He tends to do this shit a lot. "I can show a lot of cool shit but I won't because I am not allowed.

How does this even help the fans?

The best part about the cool shit shown is when the game gets completely rebooted and none of the stuff shown is even in the final release. You start to question if that was even real gameplay footage.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

I ain't gonna panic like most here I always expected this to release 2019, if it doesn't make that date for the first time ever I will shit on Lord Nomura. Until then, my prediction stands: KH3 2018, FF7r part one 2019.

 

[AlexFlame116]

I ain't gonna panic like most here I always expected this to release 2019, if it doesn't make that date for the first time ever I will shit on Lord Nomura. Until then, my prediction stands: KH3 2018, FF7r part one 2019.

You said the magic words! Although this isn't a Kingdom Hearts III thread this could still count for VII R.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

You said the magic words! Although this isn't a Kingdom Hearts III thread this could still count for VII R.

 

[NHarmonic.]

I ain't gonna panic like most here I always expected this to release 2019, if it doesn't make that date for the first time ever I will shit on Lord Nomura. Until then, my prediction stands: KH3 2018, FF7r part one 2019.

I really want to eat crow about this, but this still seems too optimitic for a game we've seen so little of.

 

[JuanLatino]

Leaked footage of nomura working

ok thats gold xD

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Last time we saw FFVII: Remake was PSX 2015. Here are all the interview of Nomura/Kitase that I could find after that event.

Kitase: I believe that this year will still be a year of preparations for Final Fantasy VII Remake,” shared Kitase. “I’d like to create a new kind of value for the hardware that is the PlayStation 4 for our next announcement.

Kitase: Yeah, we do have an idea on the project side in terms of how many installments it may consist of, but unfortunately, we can’t share that at the moment. Of course, as we’re creating and developing the scenario and the stories, these are things that move in real time. So, the plan may change along the way. But, that said, we do have a vision for how many installments it will consist of.

Nomura: If it had past materials like Kingdom Hearts, the basics would have been easy to understand, and the staff can understand the hurdles we’ve had to overcome, but at any rate, the battles in Final Fantasy VII have greatly changed from the original, since they’re something with more action in them. The next time I release information about Final Fantasy VII Remake, I think that I’ll definitely have to explain the specifics of what the battle system has become to the players. I think right now that nobody is really able to imagine a concrete battle, so I’m in the middle of coming up with steps that I can show and explain to people, “It’s this kind of battle.”

Nomura: We’re making steady progress on its production. While we are indeed working on it, I think we’ll have you guys wait a little longer for both Kingdom Hearts III and Final Fantasy VII Remake.

Kitase: We’re currently brushing up the scene from the announcement trailer. We can now see the line of quality that we’re aiming for more clearly, but there’s still a ways to go.

Kitase: The voice actors are practically finished in recording voices for the main story. Fans might be picturing Cloud from Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children for it, but it’s a Cloud in his “prime” from before Advent Children, so you might sense a fresh new performance from it.

Nomura: This time we’ve prepared new materials to present at MAGIC. Since both titles have promotional plans being planned out, there’s only so much I can say about them now, but we’re enhancing the systems and progress is going smoothly, so please wait a little longer.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

I really want to eat crow about this, but this still seems too optimitic for a game we've seen so little of.

I think Square gonna put that out even if it's not ready like FFXV.

 

[Dreamer RD]

Still a decade till a full version release at best.

 

[brandonh83]

I really want to eat crow about this, but this still seems too optimitic for a game we've seen so little of.

A few years ago I was saying on here that there's no way FFXV would be before 2018, and when they announced it for September 2016 (and Nov) I was skeptical to the max that they would meet that (those) dates as it still felt too soon based on how production was going and the percentages they were tossing out.

And despite the fact that they released it, we just got a survey asking what parts of the story that we want to see added back in. I may have technically been wrong about its release date, but it should have been a 2018 title. After that, even if they come out and say that this will be out... let's say 2019 or 2020, after FFXV, color me skeptical about whether or not it's going to make a date or be finished by said dates, because they're obviously not beyond giving it to us incomplete.

It's one reason why I'm okay with the idea, in general, to make it episodic. If they can plan and price these right, as long as the actual quality is there, I'm down. If they feel overpriced, rushed, and have haphazard releases, that'll be a major blow.

 

[shark sandwich]

I can't believe the Square Enix/Nomura white knights are still insisting that this is all "hyperbole".

Final Fantasy XII, XIII, XIV, XV, and Kingdom Hearts 3 have ALL been massive clusterfucks with multi-year delays, engine changes, platform changes, director changes, etc. XIV was so terrible they had to apolgize and take it offline while they rebuilt it from scratch.

So forgive us for not giving S-E the benefit of the doubt this time around.

 

[AlexFlame116]

Last time we saw FFVII: Remake was PSX 2015. Here are all the interview of Nomura/Kitase that I could find after that event.

Oh......this is gonna be a while....

 

[Squire]

Gooch never called him 'shit'. He's been very open about his respect for Kitase's creative talents (hell, he saddled him with directing FFV, VI, VII, & VIII). He's just (rightfully) critical regarding his 'producer' role. Creative people tend to be better at, you know, creating... not necessarily allowing the inmates to run the asylum. Worked with FFX because he was more hands on, didn't work with XIII, and he was purged from vsXIII when production shifted to Tabata.

Calling Kitase 'shit', as a blunt, general statement, is laughably ignorant and childish. This isn't Twitter. You can use more words.

LOL excellent choice of words

 

[BocoDragon]

A few years ago I was saying on here that there's no way FFXV would be before 2018, and when they announced it for September 2016 (and Nov) I was skeptical to the max that they would meet that (those) dates as it still felt too soon based on how production was going and the percentages they were tossing out.

And despite the fact that they released it, we just got a survey asking what parts of the story that we want to see added back in. I may have technically been wrong about its release date, but it should have been a 2018 title. After that, even if they come out and say that this will be out... let's say 2019 or 2020, after FFXV, color me skeptical about whether or not it's going to make a date or be finished by said dates, because they're obviously not beyond giving it to us incomplete.

It's one reason why I'm okay with the idea, in general, to make it episodic. If they can plan and price these right, as long as the actual quality is there, I'm down. If they feel overpriced, rushed, and have haphazard releases, that'll be a major blow.

Pricing? I'm positive each episode will be priced as a full game. So the only factor is if each episode will be a full game's worth of content.

 

[Ahasverus]

Nomura gonna Nomura, guy can't manage a taco cart.

 

[funkystudent]

FFXV only took about 4 years after its reboot but that was after 8 years of Nomura fiddling so they probably had a lot more to work with.


TBH I just cant see this coming this side of 2020 now.

I think its another FF versus XIII.

We will see it make a token appearance at the eve of next generation as its re debuted for the new consoles and it will arrive a few years after launch.


I will also guess this will probably push any FFXVI plans square had for a bit.

 

[E92 M3]

What will release first: Winds of Winter or FFVII remake?

The world may never know.

 

[Shifty1897]

The last time a SE game went through development hell I got a game that made no sense.

I can't wait until the

Spoiler

Aeris death scene

happens off screen and Cloud finds out about it in the paper.

 

[BocoDragon]

The last time a SE game went through development hell I got a game that made no sense.

I can't wait until the

Spoiler

Aeris death scene

happens off screen and Cloud finds out about it in the paper.

Haha. I laughed.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

The last time a SE game went through development hell I got a game that made no sense.

I can't wait until the

Spoiler

Aeris death scene

happens off screen and Cloud finds out about it in the paper.

If they give it to Tabata yes.

 

[NHarmonic.]

A few years ago I was saying on here that there's no way FFXV would be before 2018, and when they announced it for September 2016 (and Nov) I was skeptical to the max that they would meet that (those) dates as it still felt too soon based on how production was going and the percentages they were tossing out.

And despite the fact that they released it, we just got a survey asking what parts of the story that we want to see added back in. I may have technically been wrong about its release date, but it should have been a 2018 title. After that, even if they come out and say that this will be out... let's say 2019 or 2020, after FFXV, color me skeptical about whether or not it's going to make a date or be finished by said dates, because they're obviously not beyond giving it to us incomplete.

It's one reason why I'm okay with the idea, in general, to make it episodic. If they can plan and price these right, as long as the actual quality is there, I'm down. If they feel overpriced, rushed, and have haphazard releases, that'll be a major blow.

To be honest, the idea i'd be ok with would be the damn company being competent for once and releasing completed, well developed games in acceptable time frames, specially considering how big SE is and the importance it used to have. This whole ordeal with every new project is laughable, seriously.

 

[CazTGG]

Someone need to add in Neku to this gif.

 

[AlexFlame116]

Speaking of XV, looks like the behemoth jacket was finally released in EU as a DLC bundle with the King of Lucis pendant and the Caelum watch. For free.

Poor Japan had to buy the actual jacket to get the DLC.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

To be honest, the idea i'd be ok with would be the damn company being competent for once and releasing completed, well developed games in acceptable time frames, specially considering how big SE is and the importance it used to have. This whole ordeal with every new project is laughable, seriously.

No Final Fantasy game will ever be seen as complete again because after 10 years they still havent gotten over the concept of patches or DLC. FFXII is seen as complete despite having a international edition that overhauls the entire damn game. But it wasnt a patch or DLC so its ok.

 

[funkystudent]

Speaking of XV, looks like the behemoth jacket was finally released in EU as a DLC bundle with the King of Lucis pendant and the Caelum watch. For free.

Poor Japan had to buy the actual jacket to get the DLC.

Buying a actual jacket and getting a DLC code for a virtual version of that jacket is my kind of dumb.

 

[AlexFlame116]

Buying a actual jacket and getting a DLC code for a virtual version of that jacket is my kind of dumb.

Good thing the West isn't that desperate for DLC. We get it for free.

 

[Mister Wolf]

I can't believe the Square Enix/Nomura white knights are still insisting that this is all "hyperbole".

Final Fantasy XII, XIII, XIV, XV, and Kingdom Hearts 3 have ALL been massive clusterfucks with multi-year delays, engine changes, platform changes, director changes, etc. XIV was so terrible they had to apolgize and take it offline while they rebuilt it from scratch.

So forgive us for not giving S-E the benefit of the doubt this time around.

I wish Nomura would start a kickstarter and drain them dry haha.

 

[LukasTaves]

Sure, why don't you announce this game in this big way in 2015 when it barely even started development?

The answer lies in where they announced it, who they made a (timed?) exclusivity deal with, and one of their executives saying that they pulled the strings to make the legendary 3 announcements happened because it was great PR.

That's why they announced a game they had barely started.

 

[David Ricardo]

I will consider myself lucky if they release this before PS5 pro is launched...

 

[gigantor21]

The last time a SE game went through development hell I got a game that made no sense.

I can't wait until the

Spoiler

Aeris death scene

happens off screen and Cloud finds out about it in the paper.

This cuts way too deep to be funny

Spoiler

kinda like Sephiroth

.

 

[AmyS]

I wonder if development is going to go from Unreal Engine 4 back to Luminous Engine.

Edit: I somehow really doubt it.

 

[Kayo Police]

Welp my hopes of seeing this on the ps4 is over, Watch this get relaunch as a PS5 title.

 

[Mesoian]

If they're pulling development in-house for quality and scheduling reasons, they presumably were unhappy with the current quality and development schedule.

I've heard that song before. How long before the FF7 remake is turned into FF17?

 

[Kyzer]

I'll ask again since nobody responded to me. How is Square moving this game to internal development Nomura's fault?

Most people here are just using this thread as an excuse to reiterate their Versus XIII theories, sure he probably made some mistakes there, but what does this news have to do with anything?

What does Nomura have to do with the development of FFVII 🤔

 

[The Hermit]

Leaked footage of nomura working

😂😂😂

 

[SpaceWolf]

You said the magic words! Although this isn't a Kingdom Hearts III thread this could still count for VII R.

"foreward" ruins it.

 

[The Sum of Zero]

Leaked footage of nomura working

So G.R.R.M is Nomura in a suit?