clarky
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And like i said even if its the best racing game of all time there will also be outlets that score it lower. This shit evens itself out. All the GT leaning channels will mark this a point lower just because.
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Forza Motorsport Reviews Embargo Lifts Soon
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digoutyoursoul
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Yes. Although any form of bias seems to be conveniently placed only one way to some people and fail to recognise theire are those out there that will inflate the scores of these games to cement their relationships with the publisher. They certainly don’t act in the interest of the consumer.
Halo infinite a 10 for example? No chance.
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Black_Stride
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Horseganador
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With all the xbox pro pages going up the average should be close to 90.
clarky
Gold Member
Totally understand where you are coming from.
On the other hand Starfield a 5?
Not a chance.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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88-89 is my guess from watching a few of the previews.
digoutyoursoul
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And to be fair you are right what you said previously , there will be those who perhaps have an obnoxious leaning to other racing franchises and platforms that will undermine the game.
I didn’t like Starfield from what I’ve played, mediocre , a six for me but each is own there.
My problem is this should be a real showcase for Series X and it isn’t, six years development, at the very least it should be a bit more impressive visually. And then they talk about “legacy features” not being there, a repeat of Halo infinite.
I understand why some may think I’m some console war arse or a PlayStation zealot , the truth is I just believe Xbox and a lot of their offerings can and should be better and seeing people heap tons of praise on the likes of Phil Spencer and slapping questionable tens on some of their offerings by people acting in their own self interest isn’t helping the platform get to a higher standard I believe it should be.
clarky
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Im more interested in seeing this fucker at 4k on my 4090. To be honest looks fabulous from what ive seen so far. Love me a racer hopefully this is as good as it looks.
As always ill be reserving judgement until ive played it.
Elder Legend
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Thanks for reminding me. I forgot to mention I am playing on a PC. Will mention the specs in the review as well but for those are curious I am reviewing it one 4090 with a 7950X Processor Ryzen 9 and 64 GB DDR5 Ram.
clarky
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Well at least we'll lnow if you say it performs like shite then its an avoid for 99% of the population of the world.
Give us a clue, how many frames at 4k with RT on are you reading GAF at right now????
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FoxMcChief
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84-87
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Forza Motorsport '23 doesnt even deserve an 8 outta 10?
Okay!!!!!
Didn't know Rick Scott was such a party hound.
clarky
Gold Member
Its a racing game not a lot you can do in this space. Unless your willing to spend an extra £500+ on VR.
Like others have said barring something absolutely revolutionary like GT1 this aint getting close to GOTY.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
Thinking the same. Worst case scenario is 83 and I could see a 91 as highest.
Elder Legend
Banned
I can't discuss anything in regards to the game at this moment. Patience friend.
clarky
Gold Member
I know fella just teasing. Enjoy.
clarky
Gold Member
Yeah if this breaks 90 then its an absolute must play banger imo. expecting 85+ tho myself.
It almost two weeks before embargo lift and you already coping in conspiracy.
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R6Rider
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SEGAvangelist
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That's not conspiracy. It happens often with sim racers.
//DEVIL//
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I want a next-gen racing game and this is as good as it will get for the next 2 to 3 years because there is none coming soon besides this. I'll take it. day one full purchase on PC Windows store so I can share play with my son on Xbox.
I Wish Steam/MS could allow such cross-buy with Xbox but alas, most dreams don't come true.
I Wish Steam/MS could allow such cross-buy with Xbox but alas, most dreams don't come true.
drotahorror
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I'm going with 75-80. Hope it's better as I don't have a wheel for PS5.
I'm all about WRC 2023 to be honest though.
I'm all about WRC 2023 to be honest though.
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Elder Legend
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Quick question - Did the previous Forza Motorsports have the car leveling system that they've talked about in the previous previews? I am assuming not. This is my first Forza Motorsport so it's a bit hard for me to make comparisons in my upcoming review for this particular title. The review will be written from a newbie angle to a Forza Motorsport franchise. I've only played the Forza Horizon games and I never touched GT or Forza Motorsport.
supernova8
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Might even be higher because I can see outlets like IGN and Gamespot actually giving it an 80+ score this time rather than a 70 (like they did with Starfield) assuming the game isn't inherently broken in some glaring way.
I agree though, I can't see what looks so fantastic about Forza Motorsport 2023 that justifies it coming out 18 months after Gran Turismo 7.
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DanielG165
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No they didn’t. You essentially just built up credits to purchase the cars you wanted, and could then go on to buy upgrades and parts for them.
DanielG165
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New tire model, new physics engine, new handling system, RT in-game etc. Those things take time.
Bumblebeetuna
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Will guess 85-90, same as my Starfield guess.
We don't get enough good racing games nowadays. I miss the PSone days when there were a million sim and arcade style racers.
But this one will be very good.
We don't get enough good racing games nowadays. I miss the PSone days when there were a million sim and arcade style racers.
But this one will be very good.
sCHOCOLATE
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FM1 actually had players select from one of three major manufacturer regions (North America, Europe, Asia) at the beginning, granting you access, rewards and discounts for cars and parts in the chosen region as you progressed. Cars from the other two regions were still available, but without the benefit of their regional discounts. The player could, however, spend in-game credits to switch regions, abandoning the perks from one region for the other.
Or perhaps it’ll be that way because the Forza games have pretty much always reviewed well, with the exception of FM5?
Metacritic uses a weighted average, and all the sites you’re pointing your finger at can’t even influence the score by more than a percentage point.
This is a meaningless distraction.
DenchDeckard
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There's no way a Microsoft sim racer gets above 85 unless it's down right incredible but I'm sticking with my 88.
Mr Reasonable
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If the weaponization of review scores is a thing, as so many believe, then perhaps we need to call time on paying attention to them.
Looking forward to seeing a thread with an hourly update on what is happening to the score.
Looking forward to seeing a thread with an hourly update on what is happening to the score.
supernova8
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I just went back and watched some side-by-side comparisons of this versus GT7 and it looks pretty hard, almost impossible to spot the RT at all in FM.
Honestly I'd love to try out FM7 on Game Pass to see if I can tell the difference with the new tire models, physics, handling etc when FM8 comes out, but oh yeah look at that they removed all the non-Horizon ones (and no I'm not buying it, the whole point of GP is to not have to buy first party Xbox titles)
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BoxFresh123
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Went 90+. I think it could hit 90 but always a good chance it slowly hits a 88/89 ish.
Should score high regardless.
Should score high regardless.
LostDonkey
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99% of the videos released so far were using the non raytracing mode for whatever reason.
When it's on its impossible to miss.
Senua
Member
It's kinda insane when you think about it. We're a weird bunch, us gaffers
I went looking for any youtuber in the preview that used to RT performance mode and couldn't find any, maybe it was disabled or not out embargo. Or these youtube influencer types are bloody clueless...
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Last two editions were rated 87 and 86.
I suspect reviewers know you’re not going to be barreling through forests and driving off cliffs in a sim racer.
Robb
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Yeah, I think that’s what makes it look less impressive to me. Horizon just looks outstanding when you’re driving through those lush forests.
KingHippo1967
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You're allowed to show the title screen, not the main menu.
MonkeyClaw36
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Low 80's is a flop now yeah?
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Only in xbox cases people are pointing out the favorable reviews by certain outlets, the so called usual suspects.
I guess you guys had the same problem with gt7 and reviews from sites like meuplaystation, psx brasil, playstation lifestyle, playstation universe? Of course not.
I guess you guys had the same problem with gt7 and reviews from sites like meuplaystation, psx brasil, playstation lifestyle, playstation universe? Of course not.
Senua
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GT7s career was shite so they should at least excel in that department
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