Regginator
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I took a quick look again and yeah, the 8GB Sapphire is around €280/290 here (Netherlands). The MSI version is €299.
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GeForce GTX 1060 announced - July 19, 6GB, $249 MSRP/$299 Founder's
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I took a quick look again and yeah, the 8GB Sapphire is around €280/290 here (Netherlands). The MSI version is €299.
LelouchZero
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This is going to be a strong contender against the RX 480.
It's great to see the mid-range GPU market get higher performing products at around the same price-point or even lower.
It's great to see the mid-range GPU market get higher performing products at around the same price-point or even lower.
Aztechnology
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Pretty much. The performance on the 1060 though because of overclocks potential will probably put it ahead of the 480 though. It'll be interesting to see, but given what we've seen from the 1070/1080 this will be a well performing card and at a lower wattage.
Only time will tell, there's s good chance the 1060 will outperform and Nvidia's new architectures have their own response to Async computer which seems to be working fine. The main thing is with consoles continuing to be dominated by AMD APU's slot of games will generally be more optimized (at least at release) for AMD cards which usually means less issues. Additionally AMD is better known for their long term support.
It's definitely an interesting decision those at the $200-300 dollar price range have to make. That being said for 1080p gamers the 4GB 480 is probably still the best buy and will be $70-100 cheaper on average depending on the AIB partner which is enough to influence a buying decision.
Brad Grenz
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Save that for when the street price of the 1060 drops below $300 however many months from now.
Hellgardia
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Well i'll be damned. 249$ is actually not bad!
shark sandwich
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Yeah this rationale is pretty ridiculous.
Has there ever been a situation where GPU A was superior at launch, but GPU B ended up being better in the long run?
DryvBy
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Well, AMD has one thing that is super annoying and that's their driver support compared to nVidia. If it boils down to AMD vs nVidia at the same price, be smart and always go nVidia.
yes there has, but only because of badly written drivers (especially from AMD/ATI)
I am not a GPU expert - so I don't understand how the RX 480 easily bests the GTX 1060 in TFLOPS and memory bandwidth....yet many folks project better performance from the 1060.
Are the drivers just that much better? It is that the RX 480 will be better for DX12?
The 1060 is a very interesting proposition for me...I was all set to get an RX 480 once AIBs come out. I am sitting on a 7870 and it is killing me! I am slightly cheering for team red because parity is much better for consumers and an open standard like freesync is also desired.
Are the drivers just that much better? It is that the RX 480 will be better for DX12?
The 1060 is a very interesting proposition for me...I was all set to get an RX 480 once AIBs come out. I am sitting on a 7870 and it is killing me! I am slightly cheering for team red because parity is much better for consumers and an open standard like freesync is also desired.
kraspkibble
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that will put it at the same price or lower than the RX 480 8GB. if nvidia release it at £230-250 and it indeed performs better than the 480 then it'll be AMD that loses.
Prophet Steve
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Their driver support has been perfectly fine in the latest years.
martino
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it's pirelli.
Karspankey
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I bought my GTX 960 a year ago, is this a considerable upgrade to that if all I really want is to play games at 1080p with high/max settings at 30fps?
Possumowner
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Have to wait for that UK price and reviews before jumping in and getting this for my bedroom machine
kraspkibble
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RIP RX 480 we hardly knew you.
Roughly the same price if you compare it to the 8GB version. Less ram more performance and probably better overclocking. To me the answer is clear, the 1060 is a better card and its priced to be a killshot against AMD, same as the 980ti was at the time.
This card will run 1080p games without breaking a sweat and will last you a fair bit.
hardcastlemccormick
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Why the hell would you have a founder's version of a card that's supposed to compete with the RX 480, a card that's cheap, already out, and plentiful?
Really dumb move.
Really dumb move.
Yes. Especially now with more games needing more than 2gb of VRAM.
Taco_Human
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I've got a gtx 570 still, should I grab this or a 1070? I like playing mostly at high frame rate. Multiplayer stuff. I can only play the new doom at everything on low for about 45 fps.
Regginator
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Isn't that more than enough for 1080p? I can't imagine 1440/4K players buying a 1060.
Availability is always a question and as such gouging but this is undoubtedly a mid range card. Therefore one would hope they have supply as referenced by a simultaneous launch and one that sticks to msrp.
Again, price/performance ratio will be totally fucked for us in EU. 1070 MSRP for US is $380, and for Europe starting price is 430€ [but in my territory, the cheapest I saw was MSI Aero for 495€].
That $250 in US will turn into MSRP of 280-290€ in EU, with retailers raising that price for another 30-50€ easily during first few months. I totally expect this card to cost 350€ around me.
That $250 in US will turn into MSRP of 280-290€ in EU, with retailers raising that price for another 30-50€ easily during first few months. I totally expect this card to cost 350€ around me.
Prophet Steve
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Significantly more powerful, can't check benchmarks now but check 980 benchmarks and compare them.
My 980ti hasn't used more than 5GB at 1440p. 6GB at 1080p will last you till next generation of consoles.
dr_rus
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MSI Gaming X pics: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 GAMING X pictured
It is quite enough even for 1440p at the moment. But who knows how it'll do in a couple of years.
It is quite enough even for 1440p at the moment. But who knows how it'll do in a couple of years.
martino
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but did a 200-300$ card target 2016's 1440/4k players ?
kraspkibble
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yeah 6gb is fine for 1080p. 4GB is actually still OK but 6GB is nice going forward. 1440p or above 8GB is better suited.
well the 1060 will be aimed at 1080p and maybe some 1440p. it will do just fine at 1080p. the 1070 is more of a 1440p card and the 1080 is 4k 30fps. not quite enough for 4k 60fps but maybe the 1080 ti/titan will aim for that.
Karspankey
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Definitely so! The 2gb of VRAM I have has become an issue as of late!
A GTX 980!? Wow, that's pretty great considering I bought my card for nearly the same price a year ago! Thanks for letting me know!
Regginator
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Yeah, thought as much, more than enough to last a while.
No, but that's my point. 6GB of VRAM is more than plenty for 1080p.
Backfoggen
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Lol at them trying the Founders thing again
Day one. The FE is being treated as a limited edition this time and is only sold by Nvidia directly. They want to murder the RX 480, so the MSRP is 100% truth this time. The only question is stock.
DryvBy
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How long has this changed? I switched from them about 3 years ago with a decade of ATI cards. The games would run fine but I always had weird issues with IQ and then overscan problems with HDMI.
comshoplesce
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why is always price without TAX?
ISee
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Pascal and Maxwell seem to be comparable in their performance per clock ratio.
So let's talk TFlops, because it's the new hype thing to do, and because it tells us nearly nothing about real world performance. And most probably I'm doing it wrong anyway.
Reference:
GTX 1060 ~ 4.35 TFlops
GTX 980 ~ 4.98 TFlops
GTX 970 ~ 3.92 TFlops
Overclocks on Custom Designs:
GTX 1060 (2000mhz*) ~ 5.12 TFlops
GTX 980 (1450mhz**) ~ 5.94 TFlops
GTX 970 (1450mhz**) ~ 4.83 TFlops
(*) Maybe doable on custom designs
(**) Doable on most 'good' custom designs
Overall I don't think the 1060 will be a reasonable upgrade for 970/980 owners. But we have to wait for real world benchmarks, as always.
So let's talk TFlops, because it's the new hype thing to do, and because it tells us nearly nothing about real world performance. And most probably I'm doing it wrong anyway.
Reference:
GTX 1060 ~ 4.35 TFlops
GTX 980 ~ 4.98 TFlops
GTX 970 ~ 3.92 TFlops
Overclocks on Custom Designs:
GTX 1060 (2000mhz*) ~ 5.12 TFlops
GTX 980 (1450mhz**) ~ 5.94 TFlops
GTX 970 (1450mhz**) ~ 4.83 TFlops
(*) Maybe doable on custom designs
(**) Doable on most 'good' custom designs
Overall I don't think the 1060 will be a reasonable upgrade for 970/980 owners. But we have to wait for real world benchmarks, as always.
hardcastlemccormick
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I do too. This is a great thing for PC gaming, as well as the whole industry. The performance barrier to VR is easier than ever to hit.
With these GPU's, we may start getting to a point where it's easy to build a $500 PC that can play every game without breaking a sweat and is relatively future proofed.
Dream_Journey
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They have different things they excel at. If you have a task that needs a lot of flops then the AMD card will perform better, but in other areas the Nvidia GPUs are better.
Memory bandwidth I think is mainly compression and cache. Both have clever compression, but Nvidia were first and have been ahead in the past. Maxwell was much better with inferior memory bandwidth because of its new compression algorithm and bigger cache.
It's very geeky, but this podcast goes into the details of why the Fury X didn't perform as well as the specs suggested in games. Their conclusion (IIRC) is that they made a DX12 card in the DX11 era.
http://techreport.com/review/28552/the-tr-podcast-179-radeon-r9-fury-x-tested-dissected
megarockexe
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Now this is the price point. I can't wait to upgrade from my 650 to the 1060. It should make running at native res (2560x1440) possible.