Dead Prince
Banned
well was thinking of 480 but i'll get this for a upgrade.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
GeForce GTX 1060 announced - July 19, 6GB, $249 MSRP/$299 Founder's
- Thread starter Guess Who
- Start date
I've had my 670 since early 2013 and only recently have noticed a need to upgrade. Do you think this card will have a similar 3.5 year life span if I'm sticking to 1080p gaming and am happy with High Settings/decent performance?
I also have an i5 3570k, am I right in not having to worry about upgrading that for a few more years? Finally, am I ok sticking with 8GB of RAM for the foreseeable future?
Sorry for the newb questions, I just don't know how much of the need to start playing new games on medium settings is related purely to my GPU or if other upgrades need to happen as well.
Sword Of Doom
Member
shark sandwich
tenuously links anime, pedophile and incels
Supposedly Nvidia TFLOPS don't directly compare to AMD TFLOPS. And Nvidia has compression techniques that enable it to get more "bang for the buck" from its memory bandwidth.
Re. DX12, AMD got a better boost in DX12 games than Nvidia did last generation. Should be interesting to see how they compare this gen. Could be the case that 1060 wins in DX11 games and 480 wins in DX12. My bet is that 1060 will win across the board, but I would like to be surprised!
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
probably not. my 1070 struggles to run GTA V at 1080p 60fps with everything at MAX. i mean with every single setting turned on and up full. that's the way PC games should be. ultra+ settings are there not for the hardware available at release but for hardware in a few years time.
that said the 6600K and 1060 should handle 1080p 60fps without too much trouble.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
probably not. my 1070 struggles to run GTA V at 1080p 60fps with everything at MAX. i mean with every single setting turned on and up full. that's the way PC games should be. ultra+ settings are there not for the hardware available at release but for hardware in a few years time.
that said the 6600K and 1060 should handle 1080p 60fps without too much trouble.
You can't compare any of that (especially TFLOPS when talking about gaming) unless both GPUs are using the same architecture. It has nothing to do with drivers. FLOPS are just used for marketing for gaming cards; they only really matter for compute. The RX 480 should be the better card for certain GPGPU applications and some DX12 or AMD optimized games, but that's about it.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I'll believe it when I see it. 1070 custom cards are FE price here, even after several weeks, some even more expensive.
shark sandwich
tenuously links anime, pedophile and incels
FE will be direct from Nvidia only. Partner boards will all have their own cooling solutions and have $249 MSRP. Seems like a much better situation than 1070/1080
Bl@de
Member
It's different this time. It's a Limited Edition only supplied by Nvdiia (unlike with the 1070/1080).
So partner cards could end up cheaper with the 1060.
I don't disagree - while they're handling the 1060's FE very differently (and in a much more limited way), it remains to be seen how that actually affects the pricing. I imagine it also depends on availability. If there's limited stock you'll probably see more price gouging than if they can actually meet demand.
dr. apocalipsis
Banned
Not pretty enough.
SomedayTheFire
Member
who generally make the best coolers for nvidia aib's?
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
here in the UK the prices of the custom cards were way more than the reference FE cards. the FE's were about £400 and the ones from the likes of msi/evga etc were something like £430. it's getting a bit better now but still not too great. the reference cards are still generally about £20 cheaper.
KillerMan91
Member
Knowing Nvidias EU pricing 480 RX will probably remain as better entry card. 1070 GTX had MSRP of $380 in US. Cheapest 1070 GTX at the moment here in Finland is 488....
Because on these architectures (and previous ones as well) the FPS/TFLOP and FPS/(GB/s) ratio is always in NV's favor.
Whether this is a result of hardware or driver differences (or both) is a point of contention, but not the fact that it is the case.
Founders card is only suppose to be available on nvidias own page/shop or something like that... pcper says they already have the MSI version on the way for testing and should be ready for the launch day review
1070. This would only be a 15-20% jump before overclocking.
Muffin Awesome
Member
Same boat as you, but need it to actually be at the 250$ price point, not looking to go more than that, have an i7 4770k that is looking to be pushed and need a comparable GC to help it along.
Aztechnology
Member
1070 for 1440p hands down.
New trend my ass, nvidia has just had a monopoly and could charge whatever they wanted.
Sorcerer Supreme
Member
i want one but i know it will be months before the prices aren't crazy and supply isn't sold out
Papacheeks
Banned
Problem is no one stuck with the MSRP or even close to it for the 1080/1070. Most cards were way over priced, and no one foresaw all the aib's having their own FE editions come out first to price gouge.
AMD stuck to their MSRP pretty damn closely. $199 for 4 gb and 240$- and up depending on clocks for 8gb.
In US anyway.
dr_rus
Member
Eh, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Even as a "limited run" FEs will still likely be the first cards on the market and even if there will be some AIB editions for preorder on the same day they are likely to be OC ones priced similarly to FEs level.
Don't forget that the launch was pulled forward by more than a month compared to what they've planned. This is likely mean that most AIBs aren't ready with their custom versions yet and they won't be available on 19th - at least widely.
1070 is a 6.46TF card which is in general faster than Titan X which is 6.69TF card.
1060 is a 4.35TF card which will in general be on the same level as 980 which is 4.98TF card.
Pascal isn't comparable to Maxwell in pure flops, the efficiency is up again.
But you're of course correct in saying that 1060 isn't a worthy upgrade for 970 and 980 owners. Hence why it's 1060 - it's supposed to be a solid upgrade for the owners of 960 cards and anything below them.
eeh what.. GTX 1070 is almost twice as fast as a 290 at stock clocks in 1440p
unless you are talking about some very specific game??
edit : 50%-90% faster in most games
QuantumSquid
Member
Who is going to buy a $240 RX 480 when this outperforms it and only costs $10 more? (though the prices will certainly be higher than MSRP for a while).
Seems like the 4 GB RX 480 is the real value card now if your budget is absolutely no more than $200.
Seems like the 4 GB RX 480 is the real value card now if your budget is absolutely no more than $200.
Dead Prince
Banned
Hopefully this means I will have easy pickings of the 1070 of my choice when I buy in August.
OOS RIP
Exactly..
The situation is more like
4GB/~GTX970+ performance for $200-$250
or
6GB/~GTX980 performance for $250-$300
You get a choice for your budget, which is always ideal-- a good card for a lower budget, a better card for a bigger budget.
(adding $50 to the MSRP to account for AIBs since those are prefereable to the ref cards)
also this assumes 1060s will actually be available for $250 which I doubt.
Oh man not this FE crap again. 1070s and 1080s still CAN NOT be found for anywhere near their MSRP. Even the third party ones. Even some of them are being gouged above the FE pricing. Everyone thinks they're good cards based on the MSRP... and they WOULD BE but you can't buy it at the MSRP. The supply is not there. nVidia has people believing good perf/$ based on a non-existent retail MSRP.
I expect the 1060 to follow suit. $250 might be a good deal if it delivers on the promised performance, sad there are no review site benchmarks. This move is directly to throw shade on the RX 480. But good luck finding any version below $299. I'd be glad to be proven wrong. But with this "announcement launch" rumored to be pushed up a month ahead, but still a 2 week wait for retail, and supply problems on the bigger cards... we'll see.
Looks like the real battle will be AIB RX480s and FE 1060s.
I expect the 1060 to follow suit. $250 might be a good deal if it delivers on the promised performance, sad there are no review site benchmarks. This move is directly to throw shade on the RX 480. But good luck finding any version below $299. I'd be glad to be proven wrong. But with this "announcement launch" rumored to be pushed up a month ahead, but still a 2 week wait for retail, and supply problems on the bigger cards... we'll see.
Looks like the real battle will be AIB RX480s and FE 1060s.
dr_rus
Member
NVIDIA Pascal GP106 and GTX 1060 PCB pictured up close
Notice that there's a couple of empty memory chip places. As I've said, no idea what it means but it may point to GP106 actually having a 256 bit bus (unlikely) or the PCB being compatible not only with GP106 but GP104 as well (making a 1060Ti card based on a cut down GP104 possible).
Notice that there's a couple of empty memory chip places. As I've said, no idea what it means but it may point to GP106 actually having a 256 bit bus (unlikely) or the PCB being compatible not only with GP106 but GP104 as well (making a 1060Ti card based on a cut down GP104 possible).
There will probably be some lower-end AIBs for $250 with cheap single-fan coolers, just like the 950/960 have. But the ones you actually want with good coolers and factory OCs will probably be $270-$300, yeah.
Papacheeks
Banned
I'm sorry, does AMD have to release everything in the same fashion as their competition?
Their high end cards are coming, just that from what we know they are possibly using HBM2 so that shit takes time.
Get me a custom cooler one at $250 and I'll bite. Otherwise, it's about a $40 more.
LordOfChaos
Member
I'm liking this, looks like there's no rumored 3GB version to fill in the 250 dollar slot, and 250 dollars itself isn't too bad of a premium over the RX 480. Some were thinking Nvidia could get away with even 300, at least for the 6GB model.
Yay for market competition, think what it would be if no RX 480 launched. Though for AMDs sake, I hope the 480 still sells well, but I myself would be tempted to the 1060 instead.
Yay for market competition, think what it would be if no RX 480 launched. Though for AMDs sake, I hope the 480 still sells well, but I myself would be tempted to the 1060 instead.
Papacheeks
Banned
Not really if AIB don't stick with MSRP like what happened with the 1080/1070 the 480 will still be cheaper.
E-Cat
Member
Damn, AMD really fucked up. We need Vega ASAP, and it needs to be good. Doubt either of those happening, unfortunately.