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Geoff Keighley will be responding to Doritosgate
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Mermandala
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Things will never slow down for a man who runs 24and7 on Dew+Dotos. Slowing down for the Doritos Pope is taking bath salts.
and why does he has to justify himself to a closed community that always turns on him even before this incident?
"The power of silence"
vpance
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Geoff has finally, to my knowledge, responded to Doritosgate on Kevin Pereira's podcast. I think he gives a fair and well reasoned answer to it all.
-Also talks about Joel on VGX
-Someone tweeted to Geoff after VGX, "when are you committing suicide?"
http://www.deathsquad.tv/pointless-42/
-Also talks about Joel on VGX
-Someone tweeted to Geoff after VGX, "when are you committing suicide?"
http://www.deathsquad.tv/pointless-42/
His part about advertisement and gaming I agree with, the part about VGX not so much.
Deadly Joker
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"Your body of work is buried under Neogaf forum threads"
How can something so sad be so funny?
Thanks for the link! Listenin' now.
The One and Done
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Lol
Geoff pretty much says it all. He (and the people that ran this show) wanted it to expand beyond the gaming audience. That they like having people like Joel McHale, because it broadens the industry beyond its current scope. This time it just happened to bite them in the ass, as it didn't go as well. I mean shit, Geoff pretty much says "Well, we could just have like Me + Sessler, or Angry Joe. But that would just be the industry taking to itself".
Lol
So it's hard to feel too much sympathy for how bad the VGX went down.
Lol
So it's hard to feel too much sympathy for how bad the VGX went down.
Disagree with the advertisement bit. He totally missed the point.
They're missing the point of the whole Doritos thing. It would have all been fairly harmless if there wasn't a giant Halo cut out in the background, the tired stereotypes that come along with Doritos and Dew were just the icing.
I don't care if Taco Bell sponsors the NFL because I'm not counting on the NFL to tell me which Tacos will give me diarrhea.
He says something like "We don't want any outside forces pushing on our hobby" or something like that which shows that he is totally and completely misunderstanding why anybody was mad. No one cares if you're shilling for Mountain Dew, but people do care when you're shilling for something you're claiming to give us an honest opinion on.
This was about conflict of interest, not about gamers being totally against any form of advertisement.
DICKS AHOY
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So I take it those two have made up then? Unless he said that jokingly, I'm only 20 minutes into this.
Fried Food
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can't wait to hear what he has to say. I always liked Geoff.
Yeah, someone needs to make a new thread. Listening to it now, very interesting.
I love the props to Victor Lucas on EP from Vancouver, Canada.
I should have made my post a little bit more clear. I don't think Geoff was happy with Joel, personally. But my point was, they COULD have made a more serious award show, and chose not to make one. They wanted to take a gamble by having a comedian/celebrity, because it brings the industry to a larger audience. So it's hard for me to feel any sympathy for the show falling apart, because clearly this was their decision to do all these things that didn't work - because they want the game industry to make inroads with other industries. (For example, he defends the Loiter Squad segment because it expanded their audience and exposure to BET covering it).
Geoff isn't very vocal on this podcast about how he felt about Joel, personally. But does defend him slightly. He also acknowledges that a lot of people felt that he was disinterested. Although he does say that after the cameras were rolling, Joel talked to Geoff on the side about how he loved Borderlands 1 and 2, and really enjoys co-op.
He also said: "I don't think he intended to show disservice. The things people didnt see, was him on preview monitors watching Titan Fall and saying "wow, that's amazing" and things like that. (He's talking about how Joel was interested between on camera takes). Also he joked that him and Joel follow each other now on twitter lol.
Geoff also says he watched Angry Joe's video, and said it was really great feedback.
purpletentacle
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Really good podcast, never had a problem with Geoff. That said, one thing bugs me about his approach to gaming - and that's his need to "expose gaming to a wider audience"
I kinda don't know why we need to? I feel like gaming, even the time he started (With Sierra titles, which I also played) did well enough on their own. As did Nintendo, Sega, LucasArts and everyone who operated at the time.
if anything, the broader audience had diluted everything from game mechanics to being sold a full game for 60 bucks a month.
The same goes for his reasoning for bringing in Joel McHale or those guys during the GTA concert, his mentality is to introduce the audience to new things. But why? To what end? He never gives a good answer for this, other than he wants to see gaming grow. I ask him: isn't it big enough? if anythjng, we've seen lots of arguments lately for why it should be smaller.
I kinda don't know why we need to? I feel like gaming, even the time he started (With Sierra titles, which I also played) did well enough on their own. As did Nintendo, Sega, LucasArts and everyone who operated at the time.
if anything, the broader audience had diluted everything from game mechanics to being sold a full game for 60 bucks a month.
The same goes for his reasoning for bringing in Joel McHale or those guys during the GTA concert, his mentality is to introduce the audience to new things. But why? To what end? He never gives a good answer for this, other than he wants to see gaming grow. I ask him: isn't it big enough? if anythjng, we've seen lots of arguments lately for why it should be smaller.
In my opinion, Geoff isn't a journalist ... he should just say he isn't one, and then the Doritos thing is no big deal. He's a host ... there is nothing wrong with that. Hosts get paid big money, and -- regardless of what the uninformed think -- it isn't an easy job. Dick Clark and Ryan Seacrest made empires from the job.
Please carry on this discussion in this thread, rather than split the discussion with a year-old bumped thread.
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