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Google exec murdered by expensive prostitute
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Foxy Fox 39
Banned
I don't really think it matters if he was going to shoot up if she weren't there. The fact is she did and he died from it.
I feel as if most people agreed that the doctor who gave MJ his overdose should have been charged. Is this any different?
hahah what? Is it any different? I would say so. She's not a medical doctor licensed and paid to administer medication to keep someone healthy under the constant strain of a musical tour for one.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
I think it's probably because most people don't see anything wrong with prostitution or people privately using drugs, but we know he has a family he's let down and shamed.
honeymustardn
Member
This sucks. Poor family.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
I don't know if that helps your case.
If I don't have a license to perform plastic surgery and I end up killing someone because I gave them rubber cement and oil injections I shouldn't be charged because I wasn't licensed to do it in the first place? Basically if I don't have the knowledge and expertise I'm exempt from any criminal charges?
Eh... well if she is the one who injected him, I think that complicates things. She could have intentionally given him more, for example - maybe an amount that she KNEW was dangerous?
That makes this shit muddy... because Heroin is a dangerous drug, so you're already playing with fire.
Trying to think outside the box here, but if you paid someone to play russian roulette with you, and they ended up shooting you in the head... is that a murder charge? It's an extreme, and not exactly related, but when both parties are fully aware of the dangers... is it someone's fault if someone dies?
That makes this shit muddy... because Heroin is a dangerous drug, so you're already playing with fire.
Trying to think outside the box here, but if you paid someone to play russian roulette with you, and they ended up shooting you in the head... is that a murder charge? It's an extreme, and not exactly related, but when both parties are fully aware of the dangers... is it someone's fault if someone dies?
family_guy
Member
To keep quiet.
my case? er...no.
they could have gotten MJ's doctor for negligence easy, they went for murder and he walked. But deliberate medical malpractice paid for by an showrunner investment group that inadvertently kills the patient, isn't very comparable to a woman helping someone use and ending up with a drug OD. One difference is she could easily go down for murder due to circumstances, but Doctor Conrad would not, because "who could know, no one could have predicted".
Also someone deliberately giving plastic surgery with dangerous and non-medical materials, actually comes with wiggle room, to and it's probably ;eft to the prosecutor's discretion to go for a murder charge.
If I bring some coke to a party, and folks die from it. I'm definitely at fault. However, i'd hope that the recreational use of heroin/coke is factored into my sentencing.
I'd hope that I wouldn't be the sole target for a murder charge, and that people would at least see that everyone at the party, and me, made a mistake. Accidental drug related death should be about it.
But, you can't antagonize either party here. Dudes got a pricey habbit, both women and drugs. Addiction to heroin is serious, which people don't like to admit. Even though Americans die from opiate OD's more than all other drug use. He had a serious chemical addiction, family wasn't even an issue because its an addiction. Its not rational. You aren't thinking "MAN THIS IS GOING TO RUIN MY FAMILY!" before you shoot up. You're shooting up because you're addicted. The identical line of thought it took for him to begin ordering 'expensive' prostitutes.
If he has a history of heroin use, this should be an example to our country of how fucked up our heroin problem is. If wealthy people can barely cope, what the hell help is there for the rest of the people?
Instead, i see that the lady is going to get thrown under the bus. The lesson is to stay away from drug prostitutes, men are weak and have no control over themselves, etc, versus.. staying away from strong addictive substances because they are strong. Stay away from opiates without being monitored by a doctor. Nope, none of that will come up. Just, its this womans fault for taking out an innocent executive.
America needs to grow up about drugs and adults, as well as abuse. Its not just stupid people making mistakes. Its people getting addicted to over-prescribed pharma-heroin, then venturing onto other things once the pills are gone. Its a hard pill to swallow, but this shit is a nation wide problem.
I'd hope that I wouldn't be the sole target for a murder charge, and that people would at least see that everyone at the party, and me, made a mistake. Accidental drug related death should be about it.
But, you can't antagonize either party here. Dudes got a pricey habbit, both women and drugs. Addiction to heroin is serious, which people don't like to admit. Even though Americans die from opiate OD's more than all other drug use. He had a serious chemical addiction, family wasn't even an issue because its an addiction. Its not rational. You aren't thinking "MAN THIS IS GOING TO RUIN MY FAMILY!" before you shoot up. You're shooting up because you're addicted. The identical line of thought it took for him to begin ordering 'expensive' prostitutes.
If he has a history of heroin use, this should be an example to our country of how fucked up our heroin problem is. If wealthy people can barely cope, what the hell help is there for the rest of the people?
Instead, i see that the lady is going to get thrown under the bus. The lesson is to stay away from drug prostitutes, men are weak and have no control over themselves, etc, versus.. staying away from strong addictive substances because they are strong. Stay away from opiates without being monitored by a doctor. Nope, none of that will come up. Just, its this womans fault for taking out an innocent executive.
America needs to grow up about drugs and adults, as well as abuse. Its not just stupid people making mistakes. Its people getting addicted to over-prescribed pharma-heroin, then venturing onto other things once the pills are gone. Its a hard pill to swallow, but this shit is a nation wide problem.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
Yes. And I don't think it matters if she accidentally gave him too much. She was doing something extremely unsafe and illegal and it ended up killing a man. So yes, she should be charged. At the least with voluntary manslaughter but I cannot be miffed about her being charged with murder.
I just wanna see this get coverage about heroin and how its an out of control problem in the USA. Not just shaming people for being addicts and ruining their family. <<--- Has been the status-quo for all of this. And all its equated in is less education about a subject, and more frequent deaths.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
What she did was probably voluntary manslaughter but its entirely possible that she planned to murder him. Her actions kind of lend themselves to both scenarios.
Eighty Deuce
Banned
Guess he skipped the cerebral palsy phase
I wonder if they sound like Spongebob's squeaky boots that Mr. Krabs gave him?
tfur
Member
Narcan should be legal and over the counter.
I really feel heroin should be legalized or at least able to be used at a clinic. All users should then be given narcan to take home. Hopefully, eventually, users in majority would use in clinic settings. For those who don't stay at the clinic, at least you would have narcan accessible.
I really feel heroin should be legalized or at least able to be used at a clinic. All users should then be given narcan to take home. Hopefully, eventually, users in majority would use in clinic settings. For those who don't stay at the clinic, at least you would have narcan accessible.
DurielBlack
Member
I bet Comcast is behind this.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
How on earth would they prove intent here? Going to ask a heroine-addicted sex worker if she remembers if she gave him the recommended daily dosage? What's the motive?
POWERSPHERE
Banned
(Not) the guy you kill
DrFaustPhD
Member
We don't really know what the punishment is going to be yet though. She's been charged, but there's still a trial that needs to happen. Second degree murder doesn't mean she's going to spend the rest of her life in jail (it also doesn't automatically mean she would get more time in prison than a similar manslaughter charge) those are details that the court will ultimately determine. She could end up in prison for 6 years, she could be there for life, or she could be found not guilty. As illustrated by other posters, her actions and inactions are easily covered by the definition of second degree murder. If you really don't think she should be charged with murder, your issue is probably more to do with the way the law is defining murder (and it not aligning with your own definition) and your perceived stigmas with the word, than it being an inaccurate charge.
Winterfang
Banned
What did she even got by killing him?
Can we just all agree with the sentiment of "THANK GOD FOR GOOGLE DRIVE"/cloud in this case?
(Come on, like he didn't save his surveillance to Google Drive!)
Why not... ask? Seems simple to me. Though time-line/phone records/etc. could possibly give some hint of a motive.
She also destroyed evidence and fled instead of calling the police. Makes her look extremely shady.
(Come on, like he didn't save his surveillance to Google Drive!)
Sho_Nuff82 said:
Why not... ask? Seems simple to me. Though time-line/phone records/etc. could possibly give some hint of a motive.
She also destroyed evidence and fled instead of calling the police. Makes her look extremely shady.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
There doesn't seem to be a motive, so it was probably just a straight up overdose.
More Fun To Compute
Member
Well I'm sure that she will get a fair trial and everything it's not like all the money and status will have any unfair effect on her.
evilromero
Member
I think maybe we're not stepping back and looking at the fact that the guy is a scumbag. Hiring a prostitute, cheating on his wife and willingly doing illegal narcotics. Yeah, sounds like an upstanding citizen.
Beermeister
Banned
Not by my standards.
I like that you preface your theory with "in all honesty" as if there's anything about it that has anything to do with honesty.
Indrid Cold1
Member
Thousands tho? She is fucking grim. Face like a slapped arse.
SliceSabre
Banned
Because none of those things rise to the belief he deserves to die?
evilromero
Member
Well, it was his decision to do a dangerous drug that we know can be lethal, so he was knowingly putting his own life at risk. And I don't see why I should hold his life at any particular value above anything or anyone else. I'm not overly sensitive with every news story that involves murder, or in this case drug abuse. He was responsible for five kids and had a wife. Again, he stepped through that door. These are the consequences.
speculawyer
Member
Well that doctor got manslaughter and is already out of prison. Perhaps this case should be like that one and not murder.
Does the article say anything about where on the deceased the heroin was injected?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Thousands for her?
Her???
Her???
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
A "family man" that overdosed with heroin from an overpaid prostitute?
Huh.
Huh.
This is really out there. Sugar daddy site, drugs, prostitute(s), wife, five children? This guy seemed to be a little out of control.
I wonder how Google will react to this.
I wonder how Google will react to this.
http://sugardaddy.neogaf.com
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
He's white and rich.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
mechashiva
Member
The biggest troll in the article is hyping up that he's a family man.
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