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[GQman2121]

If you have a Facebook account where you post regularly to express your inner most thoughts, you better lock that shit down and make it private to you and only the people you want to read it.

I'm always amazed at these jackasses who have their Facebook accounts wide open to the public. Just kill yourself now and save yourself the embarrassment of being that person who literally hands over evidence to the prosecution.

Seriously, half that fucking article is made up of "facts" that come directly from the womens mouth. She's fucked herself because of Facebook.

 

[akira28]

Crazy killers yes, methodical assassins, no. Probably not gonna be implicated by their own Facebook pages. Immaterial blah-blah-blah..

 

[Sàmban]

He could have gotten so much better with how much he makes

 

[Guevara]

He could have gotten so much better with how much he makes

"I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave."

-

Spoiler

Charlie Sheen

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

He could have gotten so much better with how much he makes

How many chicks are really down for that gf experience though? And are into drugs and whatever kinky shit he was down for? From her posts it sounds like they were legit dating like Donald Sterling and his waifu.

 

[Buzzati]

I want to get so rich that paying average looking women to fuck me is my fetish. A money-boner, if you will.



And I will.

 

[A_Gorilla]

For those who kept asking what the girl's motive was:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/call-girl-accused-death-google-exec-wrote-facebook/story?id=24490129

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

How on earth would they prove intent here? Going to ask a heroine-addicted sex worker if she remembers if she gave him the recommended daily dosage? What's the motive?

Well I think we've found one. I found her actions after the fact extremely cold and unusual. Looks like we have a reason.

 

[Jerkson]

She's no Rachel from HoC.

 

[Buzzati]

How on earth would they prove intent here? Going to ask a heroine-addicted sex worker if she remembers if she gave him the recommended daily dosage? What's the motive?

It says in the larger article that she took some evidence and destroyed some other evidence. I guess it all comes down to what she destroyed/took - and if it made sense.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

I read over the story with a fine tooth comb, but you know what I'm not seeing? Murder.

He willfully took an illegal narcotic. She's guilty of providing said drugs, and maybe she could have done more, but she's not a doctor and she may have thought he was just having a bad trip. She was probably thinking like Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction - "if I take this guy to a hospital, when he wakes up he's going to be a lot more pissed at me and I'm going to be in a lot more trouble than if he wakes up in a pile of vomit."

He would have likely been fired and she would have been arrested anyway. I don't see how sending her to life in prison is a just punishment for his actions of soliciting illegal drugs and prostitution.



Of course, and they will play up the family man image at every opportunity, while the reality is there for anyone who bothers to look.

"She showed absolutely no regard for this person she injected with heroin," Clark said.

Clearly you didn't go over the part you quoted with a fine-toothed comb.

How on earth would they prove intent here? Going to ask a heroine-addicted sex worker if she remembers if she gave him the recommended daily dosage? What's the motive?

They don't have to prove intent or motive for second-degree murder. They just have to prove that this was caused by "dangerous conduct and the offender's obvious lack of concern for human life". This is what separates it from first-degree murder.

For this to be voluntary manslaughter, as some people are claiming, the defense would have to prove that an ordinary, reasonable person would shoot some guy up with heroin and then completely ignore him while he dies. That doesn't seem very likely, though.

 

[YoungHav]

white guys with suits take the most drugs

Then why are jails full of thugs?

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

with a name like Tichleman how do you not end up a prosi?

 

[rokkerkory]

Proof hat $ can corrupt

 

[Aaron]

Then why are jails full of thugs?

Because white guys in suits also write the laws.

 

[speculawyer]

I want to get so rich that paying average looking women to fuck me is my fetish. A money-boner, if you will.



And I will.

 

[speculawyer]

It says in the larger article that she took some evidence and destroyed some other evidence. I guess it all comes down to what she destroyed/took - and if it made sense.

In the opinion of the police/prosecutor.

It remains to be seen what the real situation is.

 

[Relique]

I didn't read the entire thread but are some gaffers saying that she wasn't obligated to help? Am I reading this right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negligent_homicide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_negligence

You are, in fact, obligated by law to get the person help.

 

[duderon]

You guys should actually read about the subject matter before posting.

...authorities say Tichelman was caught on video injecting her client with heroin, stepping over him as he fell unconscious, finishing a glass of wine, and closing the boat's blinds before slipping away.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Suspected-hooker-s-alleged-heroin-victim-was-5609169.php

 

[speculawyer]

You guys should actually read about the subject matter before posting.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Suspected-hooker-s-alleged-heroin-victim-was-5609169.php

What is your point?

Yes, even if we stipulate she injected him, there is no evidence that it was against his will.

What is her motivation to kill him if he is a paying customer?

 

[victreeb3l]

I feel bad for his family. "Family man" my ass.

 

[Timbuktu]

What is your point?

Yes, even if we stipulate she injected him, there is no evidence that it was against his will.

What is her motivation to kill him if he is a paying customer?

Maybe her being involved in a similar incident elsewhere is what is raising suspicion as well.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

What is your point?

Yes, even if we stipulate she injected him, there is no evidence that it was against his will.

She injected a lethal amount into him (which I doubt he willfully asked for) and then literally stepped over him while he's dying to finish her wine before casually leaving. And this is the second time this has happened with her. Do you seriously not see anything suspicious?

What is her motivation to kill him if he is a paying customer?

Second-degree murder, second-degree murder, second-degree murder.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

with a name like Tichleman how do you not end up a prosi?

I don't think there's a text character limit on prostitute names

 

[Zaptruder]

What is your point?

Yes, even if we stipulate she injected him, there is no evidence that it was against his will.

What is her motivation to kill him if he is a paying customer?

If she had motivation it'd be first degree murder.

Absolutely deserves second degree murder.

If she's injecting him, it's likely because he trusted her as far as knowing what she was doing. Which is a pretty dumb move, but not utterly unreasonable.

She fucks up... and then instead of helping the dude out (calling an ambulance, providing CPR, etc), just decides, oh well, time to get the fuck out of here.

If she had at least called for assistance, it'd have dropped to a manslaughter charge most likely.

 

[Aaron]

Maybe her being involved in a similar incident elsewhere is what is raising suspicion as well.

Why attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence?

 

[Juz]

Her?

 

[terrene]

We should get one thing straight here -- and that thing is as follows:

Mugshots are not flattering.

 

[Shaanyboi]

A family man. He is survived by his wife of 17 years and his five children.

lol this is the most eye-roll worthy obituary I've ever seen....

 

[Cloudy]

I feel the murder charge is realty stretching it. She shot him up with drugs as she'd probably done many times.

 

[?oe?oe]

A "family man" that overdosed with heroin from an overpaid prostitute?

Huh.

Article said he was an impulse buyer.

 

[Auto-Reply]

Heroin?... I wonder how good you can keep that from your wife?

 

[Blastoise]

I never understand why they pay for ugly looking prostitues.

If I was willing to pay for sex, I would hold a POV porn shoot, and just hire the hottest pornstar. Pretend to film it, and get the girl to sign some NDA/contract. Easy.

 

[Chinese Cartoons]

Lamest, shit attempt to be a funny first.

You said Google and he worked for Google and now hes dead, hillarious.

Good to see we have a cheating druggy defense force.

 

[CrankyJay]

I never understand why they pay for ugly looking prostitues.

If I was willing to pay for sex, I would hold a POV porn shoot, and just hire the hottest pornstar. Pretend to film it, and get the girl to sign some NDA/contract. Easy.

This is so sad, lol.

 

[Chinese Cartoons]

In America do you have to tip prostitutes 25%?

 

[kitch9]

Expensive?

Most chicks look relatively ropey without their warpaint on.

(Relative to how they look with it on.)

 

[nilbog21]

Had a wife and 5 kids and died from Heroin overdose with a prostitute? Can't say I feel bad..

 

[Shin Johnpv]

Some things to consider.

 

[Alcoholikaust]

maybe that guy should have Googled her name first

 

[Chuckie]

maybe that guy should have Googled her name first

He probably did. It's probably the fact she was 'dangerous' or possibly kinky that he was willing to pay thousands for her. It sure wasn't her face.

 

[DJMicLuv]

Should have gone to a mack daddy dating site.

 

[E92 M3]

I love being a family man in America, get to bang prostitutes, shoot up some H, chill in my yacht, drive in the carpool lanes, and make big boy decisions at Google.

Don't you guys understand, unless you have a wife and kid those things are forbidden! Bless him for being a great husband and dad.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

She's clearly a disturbed person, but that goes without saying for a 26 year old Heroin dealing prostitute.

Still, on the surface it sounds like a case that equally qualifies for involuntary manslaughter caused by reckless negligence. Kind of like a drunk driver running a red light and killing a pedestrian.

I don't see how voluntary manslaughter makes sense in this case, but I'm not a lawyer.

Second degree murder would imply she made a conscious decision to try and kill him at some point during their meeting. Not sure how you can prove something like that without a confession.
edit: I guess this kind of answers my question:

In the case People v. Ford, 60 Cal.2d 772 (1964), the California Supreme Court held that homicide during the commission of a felony can constitute second degree murder if the felony is "inherently dangerous to human life."[4]

 

[DoktorEvil]

We should get one thing straight here -- and that thing is as follows:

Mugshots are not flattering.

Meh.

He overpaid out the ass.

 

[E92 M3]

Maybe I am a self-centered person, but I don't get why people hire prostitutes. If the women is not being truly pleased by me and 100% wants the d, I am not interested - there is not enough satisfaction in just me being happy. Unless she is fulfilled, I feel like my job isn't done.

 

[Kinyou]

Some things to consider.

 

[TAJ]

Guess he skipped the cerebral palsy phase

You're thinking of 'ludes, bro.

How many chicks are really down for that gf experience though?

That's standard these days.
Escalation is a beautiful thing or a real bitch depending on your perspective.

 

[chicko1983]

Maybe I am a self-centered person, but I don't get why people hire prostitutes. If the women is not being truly pleased by me and 100% wants the d, I am not interested - there is not enough satisfaction in just me being happy. Unless she is fulfilled, I feel like my job isn't done.

It's for the discretion more than anything. People like Hayes was paying for her not discussing their relationship and no one else knowing about it because she does not mingle near his social circle.

When you sleep with a non prostitute, it's much harder to keep it a secret for a long time. People talk.

I don't know where I heard it, some comedian I think, but he was saying that you aren't paying for the sex, you are paying for her to leave.

 

[E92 M3]

It's for the discretion more than anything. People like Hayes was paying for her not discussing their relationship and no one else knowing about it because she does not mingle near his social circle.

When you sleep with a non prostitute, it's much harder to keep it a secret for a long time. People talk.

I don't know where I heard it, some comedian I think, but he was saying that you aren't paying for the sex, you are paying for her to leave.

I understand his circumstance, but my question was more in general. Even though it's a bit off-topic.